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[DocGina]

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Ahh the good ol days...i used to love In living Color....the cooler of the wayans bros was the DJ, on that balcony above the stage..and Jamie foxx played homie da clown...Homie dont play dat..and bam, you get a sock filled with something over the head...HAHA good times!

And don't forget the "Zoro snap in deformation."

 

[Freshnstylin]

To my knowledge all DOs work pro bono only...just like all lawyers.

yeah don't DOs have to bend over to MDs also? Especially since MDs are a lot "smarter"...I mean, come on...MDs ARE gods gift to medicine, right?

 

[Freshnstylin]

why can't I get a serious answer from people? 😕 When I ask a question on the allopathic forum, I get straight, mature answer. I was considering looking into D.O, however if this is an accurate cross-section of my associates, I would rather be a trashman. 👎

aren't we going to be doctors b/c we don't care about the money?

 

[Freshnstylin]

haha..that was funny. What's even funnier is that most pre-meds think that they'll be a "shoe-in" for DO schools....only to find out they were straight out rejected couple months later down the road.

you are right...i applied to 5 allopathic schools, got into 2...and applied to 6 osteopathic schools...got into 1. I'm going DO...I loved it...and am not looking back 😍

 

[Portier]

yeah don't DOs have to bend over to MDs also? Especially since MDs are a lot "smarter"...I mean, come on...MDs ARE gods gift to medicine, right?

Lemme give you mad props for a kickass name like Freshnstylin...so fresh and so clean clean.

I got nothing but love fo ya baby...
I got nothing but love fo ya honey...

I should change my name the Ghettoestwhiteboy.....I was deemed such by some of my co-workers. That was after Eminem, after fidy cent, befo whatshisname got kicked outa' G-unit.

😍

 

[Portier]

And don't forget the "Zoro snap in deformation."

That was from "MEN ON FILM." The guys on that show also did skits....like when David Allen Grier did the submarine show..."All these sweaty mens."

Here are a coupla' funny links:



http://www.collegehumor.com/?movie_id=155940


(This one has lots of cursing)
www.joliehomewrecker.com

 

[MJB]

Was it Fire Marshall Bill that used to say...

Lemme shoya sumtin....!

And Homey the Clown!!!!!!!!!

 

[mshheaddoc]

First of all, I still never said I wanted to be a D.O. The whole point of this thread was just to find out if there was any difference in salaries. If there is none, fine. I really expected to get helpful answers, but all I got was rudeness and cynicism. I also stated that this usually doesn't happen on the allopathic forum, and I stand by that. Thank you to all that were helpful in your responses. To the rest of you, Im sorry your GPA was not good enough to get into a regular med school.

🙄 One thing I find ironic, research DO schools and MD school differences in classes taken. DO schools in my opinion are twice as hard as you have more classes (OMM) and usually most take 2 boards (COMLEX AND USMLE). Funny thing that the grades/MCAT may be slightly below an MD, yet most DO's I know I respect more than my MD friends because they have had to do a little more to get where they are. What irks me and the others here (to be blunt) is the ignorant attitude you portray when posting on the forum. I implore you not to be an ignorant med student no matter what school you choose. Best of luck on finding the information you need.

 

[bob13]

if there is a difference in salaries... DO should just charge more for OMM

 

[Areitman]

First of all, I still never said I wanted to be a D.O. The whole point of this thread was just to find out if there was any difference in salaries. If there is none, fine. I really expected to get helpful answers, but all I got was rudeness and cynicism. I also stated that this usually doesn't happen on the allopathic forum, and I stand by that. Thank you to all that were helpful in your responses. To the rest of you, Im sorry your GPA was not good enough to get into a regular med school.

Just for curiosity sake, what is your GPA and MCAT scores? (please scan them online so we can all see that you have such higher scores than all of us who only scored 29 and a 3.6 GPA. I don't think YOU have what it takes to get into any school. Moreover, if you want to become an Orthopod, then you should know that being a DO will give you an advantage over your fellow colleagues. Do some research and grow up. Another thought, do you think this forum is representative of all Osteopaths? So why would you make a statement about "not going DO" because of the rudeness received here. Please, wait till you have do a differential diagnosis. you will have your blinders on and only see one disease (and it won't be your antisocial behavior -- please note antisocial behavior is not the same as asocial behavior). If your only tool is a hammer then all you will see are nails.

It doesn't matter to me whether you go DO or MD, but rather, I am more concerned with the care of the patient. If you are so quick to count that all the people on this forum are a represntative of DOs, you have a higher likelyhood of using this same thinking for other medical conditions. Medicine is about the patient, not about your wallet. Your patients aren't going to care how much you know, until they see how much you care. I hope this email finds you well, and who cares what your grades and MCAT scores are. If you get pass the medical interview and get an acceptance (please help us all), you will be humbled real quickly. I don't think it's for us to show you that your attitude needs to change. In due time, you will find out for your self. If you do become an orthopod, I wish you the best -- for your patients sake. Yes it is true some of the best surgeons are arrogant SOBs, so who knows maybe you will fit right in. In conclusion, remember who you are and who you represent.

 

[jamboo54]

Wow I must say this is one nasty forum. I'm just browsing over from the pharmacy forums and decided to check this one out because the title interested me.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm sure at one point in your pre-med life you didn't know how much a DO made. And you eventually found the answer from some sort of source. This guy was just trying to do the same thing. Maybe he's just learning about the field as a whole and wanted to know.

And for all of you wishing him the best of luck "for his patients sake" because he asked a "dumb question"....I feel sorry for your patients. As doctors you will recieve other "dumb questions" and that cynicism and sarcasm will not be appreciated.

 

[Pikevillemedstudent]

Wow I must say this is one nasty forum. I'm just browsing over from the pharmacy forums and decided to check this one out because the title interested me.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm sure at one point in your pre-med life you didn't know how much a DO made. And you eventually found the answer from some sort of source. This guy was just trying to do the same thing. Maybe he's just learning about the field as a whole and wanted to know.

And for all of you wishing him the best of luck "for his patients sake" because he asked a "dumb question"....I feel sorry for your patients. As doctors you will recieve other "dumb questions" and that cynicism and sarcasm will not be appreciated.

Yeah but if you read the link to a very recent post of his, you would have seen he has no interest in osteopathic medicine. And believe me, this question has been asked before, that's what the search function is for.

When I was pre-med, I knew a DO was a physician, plain and simple. It's like asking in the dental forum the pay difference between a DDS and a DMD.

 

[Areitman]

Wow I must say this is one nasty forum. I'm just browsing over from the pharmacy forums and decided to check this one out because the title interested me.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm sure at one point in your pre-med life you didn't know how much a DO made. And you eventually found the answer from some sort of source. This guy was just trying to do the same thing. Maybe he's just learning about the field as a whole and wanted to know.

And for all of you wishing him the best of luck "for his patients sake" because he asked a "dumb question"....I feel sorry for your patients. As doctors you will recieve other "dumb questions" and that cynicism and sarcasm will not be appreciated.

Wow, another ignorant coment. It wasn't just his question, it was his other remarks. READ THE WHOLE FORUM RESPONSES. Can you count above 30? I just want to make sure. Because I know in the Pharmacy forum, that is one of the things you learn when becoming a pharmicist.

 

[jamboo54]

Wow, another ignorant coment. It wasn't just his question, it was his other remarks. READ THE WHOLE FORUM RESPONSES. Can you count above 30? I just want to make sure. Because I know in the Pharmacy forum, that is one of the things you learn when becoming a pharmicist.

I had already read the whole forum and I realize he made some strange posts/comments. But from his very first comment he was met with bitter replies. My point is that future doctors should not be immediatly rejecting questions from people - no matter how rude/dumb/stupid/idiotic they may seem. You are all going to misdiagnose many patients if you ignore what they are saying.

 

[Kazema]

To be fair, most people aren't going to respond in the same way to a patient and with someone asking a question on an internet forum.

 

[Aphelion]

Just to give this guy a fair shake... There might be slight differences...

I noticed a job opening in an IM practice which specifically said it was an MD position and DO applicants will not be considered...

Of course this was 1 location in eastern Oregon.

before the flaming... I only applied to 1 Osteopathic school (KCUMB) and was accepted. Would have been a reasonable candidate for allopathic schools, but preferred Osteopathy...

Now,
For a little upbeat story. My sister is an MD and during her residency in Iowa, she worked closely with DO's. Same job, same salary, same responsibilities, same title.. However, she and her family were able to recieve OMT from the DO colleague.

So. When looking at what you can do, say for your family, DO is the better route in my opinion. I can treat everything an MD can treat using the same tools. Plus, I have my OMT tool to further assist instead of sending them to a chiropractor or PT.

As for the money.. You can charge (and be paid) for OMT as well as physicals instead of referring out. Plus, the DO's I know who do OMT in their practice, tend to enjoy it. It is a nice break in the day and tends to be fairly relaxing for the practitioner and the patient.

If interested in medical missions or charity work. OMT is very cost effective. I see it as mostly treating back pain, but I haven't started training yet.

/endRant

K

 

[cremaster2007]

I also agree that he may have been initially met unfairly with answers to his questions, but it was an ignorant question to post here, as well as his other remarks on other threads. I also find his name future ortho bothering me........does it piss anyone else off having people say they are going to be "this type of doctor" when they haven't even started/been accepted to med school yet. Sorry just a personal pain in the ass I guess, I mean we all have an idea what we do but to tell everyone you meet you are going to be orthopedic surgeon and you aren't even considering going into anything else....... 👎

 

[Portier]

That's almost as bad as early admit DO students who want to be neuro-surgeons and bang Liberal New England Elitist chicks....JK

I actually agree, and I'm joshing Cremaster because I'm jealous of his beard.

Anyone who makes a screen name that is too ostentatious deserves flaming...in my opinion. Of course I'm a minimalist...used my last name....


And to the pharmacist: Get back to your own forum. Who died and elected you queen of the world? I don't think you know the first thing about dianosis and/or what would prevent doing it well. I don't care if you have a Pharm. D., Ph.D., or whatever other letters you want to associate with "D."

The kid was rude, insulted all DO's, and failed to do some BASIC research before asking questions. Any attending in the world would expect you to be able to use the internet or a reference book prior to asking a question.

Now I don't know about all that cushy Coumadin Clinic, or Lipid Profile Mangement, or Rounding with the Physicians flim flam they're teaching you in Rx school, but where they need pharmacists is behind the counter. So get behind the counter, wait for me to scribble in red crayon on a piece of toilet paper some latin symbols, and have your "nice voice" ready to phone in a clarification....but don't call at luch or before 10AM.

 

[DO it right]

That's almost as bad as early admit DO students who want to be neuro-surgeons and bang Liberal New England Elitist chicks....JK

I actually agree, and I'm joshing Cremaster because I'm jealous of his beard.

Anyone who makes a screen name that is too ostentatious deserves flaming...in my opinion. Of course I'm a minimalist...used my last name....


And to the pharmacist: Get back to your own forum. Who died and elected you queen of the world? I don't think you know the first thing about dianosis and/or what would prevent doing it well. I don't care if you have a Pharm. D., Ph.D., or whatever other letters you want to associate with "D."

The kid was rude, insulted all DO's, and failed to do some BASIC research before asking questions. Any attending in the world would expect you to be able to use the internet or a reference book prior to asking a question.

Now I don't know about all that cushy Coumadin Clinic, or Lipid Profile Mangement, or Rounding with the Physicians flim flam they're teaching you in Rx school, but where they need pharmacists is behind the counter. So get behind the counter, wait for me to scribble in red crayon on a piece of toilet paper some latin symbols, and have your "nice voice" ready to phone in a clarification....but don't call at luch or before 10AM.

damn Portier...this site would be so freaking boring w/o u!!!!! 😉

 

[FutureOrthoDoc]

Wow I must say this is one nasty forum. I'm just browsing over from the pharmacy forums and decided to check this one out because the title interested me.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm sure at one point in your pre-med life you didn't know how much a DO made. And you eventually found the answer from some sort of source. This guy was just trying to do the same thing. Maybe he's just learning about the field as a whole and wanted to know.

And for all of you wishing him the best of luck "for his patients sake" because he asked a "dumb question"....I feel sorry for your patients. As doctors you will recieve other "dumb questions" and that cynicism and sarcasm will not be appreciated.

Thank you. I appreciate your response. This is the point I was trying to make. All I asked was, what is the salary for a D.O. If I knew it was the same as an M.D, I wouldn't have asked. From the start, I was given criticism and ridicule. I've been called every name in the book in this forum, and that's ok. I have thick skin. I was hoping this forum was not indicative of all D.O's, because I'm sure there are capable and intelligent people within that field. Unfortunatly, some of these other responses have not given me that indication.

 

[Areitman]

And to the pharmacist: Get back to your own forum. Who died and elected you queen of the world? I don't think you know the first thing about dianosis and/or what would prevent doing it well. I don't care if you have a Pharm. D., Ph.D., or whatever other letters you want to associate with "D."...
Now I don't know about all that cushy Coumadin Clinic, or Lipid Profile Mangement, or Rounding with the Physicians flim flam they're teaching you in Rx school, but where they need pharmacists is behind the counter. So get behind the counter, wait for me to scribble in red crayon on a piece of toilet paper some latin symbols, and have your "nice voice" ready to phone in a clarification....but don't call at luch or before 10AM.

Portier,

Very well said. And thank you for adding some flav, to this forum. BTW, why does it take 4 years to learn how to count pills?

 

[cremaster2007]

That's almost as bad as early admit DO students who want to be neuro-surgeons and bang Liberal New England Elitist chicks....JK

I actually agree, and I'm joshing Cremaster because I'm jealous of his beard.

Anyone who makes a screen name that is too ostentatious deserves flaming...in my opinion. Of course I'm a minimalist...used my last name....


And to the pharmacist: Get back to your own forum. Who died and elected you queen of the world? I don't think you know the first thing about dianosis and/or what would prevent doing it well. I don't care if you have a Pharm. D., Ph.D., or whatever other letters you want to associate with "D."

The kid was rude, insulted all DO's, and failed to do some BASIC research before asking questions. Any attending in the world would expect you to be able to use the internet or a reference book prior to asking a question.

Now I don't know about all that cushy Coumadin Clinic, or Lipid Profile Mangement, or Rounding with the Physicians flim flam they're teaching you in Rx school, but where they need pharmacists is behind the counter. So get behind the counter, wait for me to scribble in red crayon on a piece of toilet paper some latin symbols, and have your "nice voice" ready to phone in a clarification....but don't call at luch or before 10AM.

Portier if you can somehow get Neurosurgeon out of cremaster than you are "all wise and powerful".......and for your information the New England chick wasn't elitist she just likes nice and young things............some of those including me😉 But you do see my point, and you shouldn't be jealous of my beard.....your red one looks much better, I"m just sad to see that it had to go🙁

 

[Portier]

Portier,

Very well said. And thank you for adding some flav, to this forum. BTW, why does it take 4 years to learn how to count pills?

Speaking from experience...I was a Navy Pharmacy Tech for 7 of my 10 Enlisted years.

It doesn't take 4 years to fill scripts...it does take 4 years to learn to do TPN's, Inpatient, Kinetics, and Therapeutics. Pharmacists KNOW/LEARN a lot more than they really need to do 90% of what we need them for.

During a staffing crunch (like 2.5 years worth) the Navy had me checking prescpritons filled by other techs. That is, Dr X writes the RX, Patient Y brings it to the Pharmacy....Tech Z fills it. Ray checks it.

Most stuff is simple...Synthroid, Dig, Ace inhib, etc. However, there is the occasional thing that you need a pharmacist for. For example there are about 4 different sustained release forms of Procainamide. We carried 3. If a replacement doc wrote for SR instead of XR and the patient says, "I usually get blue pills." it's a worrisome state.

That's when it's nice to have a RPH (I prefer old RPH's to new Pharm D's...experience is worth more than money) to ask, WTF!?!?

But again, 90% of Pharmacy is monkey work....read the script, type in the script, find the pills, count the pills.....talk to the patient (hope they're listending after seeing the Nurse, Doctor, Lab, X-Ray, and the LONG line).

That's why I'm gonna' be a Military Primary Care Osteopathic Physician...higher in the food chain, so less pissy patients.