Salaries

[Ribakop]

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Hey all. I know that salary have been asked to death but that's mainly for U.S. salaries, and I live in the UK.

I know you probably expect this part but I'll say it anyway; what are the starting salaries for the different fields of medicine in the UK, in the NHS, and what to do they grow to be as you hit Consultant and above. So: Physician , Surgery (and it's specialties such as Orthopaedic, Neurosurgery, Plastic surgery, etc), Anaesthesiology, Radiology, Pathology, etc...

An updated and recent link or information from a reliable source would be perfect.

I know what most of you will say, that I'm a guy who got into medicine for the money but that's not true, I genuinely want to see the smile on a patients face after helping him, and I would like to be praised for my work (maybe because I have a huge ego, lol). So please don't start with the "get out of medicine" comments please. I could do without.

Remember, I'm talking about the UK. So don't post stuff that isn't UK. Like this: http://www.cejkasearch.com/compensation/amga_physician_compensation_survey.htm

BTW, that link above should show you roughly what areas of medicine I'd like to know about. If it isn't too much. Though if it is too much then info on Physician, Surgery (and its specialties), Pathology, Radiology and Anesthesiology.

Thanks for reading my excruciatingly long post, and please come back with good info. Thanks again and God bless.

P.S. I took the time to type this out on a tight schedule, you could at least have the courtesy to be nice and useful in your reply. No offence. 🙂

 

[leorl]

Did you try doing a search in this forum? I know this question has been asked before. There's a UK site that deals with some of these issues and serves as a med / premed forum for UK medics, I can't quite remember but it's something like a Bartlett's site. Try googling that.

 

[Ribakop]

Did you try doing a search in this forum? I know this question has been asked before. There's a UK site that deals with some of these issues and serves as a med / premed forum for UK medics, I can't quite remember but it's something like a Bartlett's site. Try googling that.

Yes, I searched the forums, didn't come up with much. I also searched for Bartlett and looked around on the first site that came up, didn't find much there too.

http://www.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/

Did I go to the wrong site?

Also, could I ask another question? I was looking around UCAS and I saw that the King's College London med school had one less year of med school unlike most med schools which are 6 years (e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, UCL, Imperial). Why?

 

[Rajin]

Also, could I ask another question? I was looking around UCAS and I saw that the King's College London med school had one less year of med school unlike most med schools which are 6 years (e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, UCL, Imperial). Why?

Most UK schools are only 5 years (e.g. Birmingham, Sussex, King's College, Leeds, Leicester).
I don't no why some medical schools are 6 years. Oxford and Cambridge are of course very popular universities with high-quality education. Maybe that's why?

Go to UCAS, enter course code 'A100', and on the list of medical schools you can see that most schools are 5 years 🙂

 

[Prolif]

An NHS Doctors starting salary is £23,000 a year basic. This increases to around £26,000 a year in the second year. This is considered to be fairly low and its possible an increase is on the horizon. The reason for this is British doctors used to get a low basic salary but because they worked virtually 70 hours a week including overtime they got nearly double pay (1.6-1.8 multipliers normally) making their salary closer to £35-40K a year. Thats changed now though because of the European Working Time Directive (EWTD) a piece of legislation from teh EU that prevents doctors working excessive hours and many days consecutively for the safety of their patients (since overworking and fatigue costs lives).

The salary now starts fairly low and increases almost exponentially, 5-10 years in you could expect around £40,000 a year and 15-20 years in you could expect anywhere upwards of £55,000.

Consultants and GPs (a GP is a the British equivalent of a family doctor) get in the region of £80-110,000. This is very high, bear in the mind the primeminister earns around £140,000 (though they tend to have multiple incomes).

Don't try and compare it like for like with the US because everything is cheaper in the US, cars, houses, life in geneal. The bottom line is as a british doctor you won't be poor and should live comfortably with a nice house, new car and annual holidays pretty much from the first few years.

www.study-medicine.co.uk have some guides that you might find useful, about british medicine and finance. I hope this helps.

 

[Dr Noodle]

Think the starting salary is now £21k with very few banded posts being offered. Lots of discussion on it at www.newmediamedicine.com

Though try to avoid the defensive attitude, it won't go down well. You are just a wee medic wannabe after all (assuming that from your 'status').

 

[SpinebustaFilet]

I'm sorry I've tried searching and googling Medical Malpractice Inurance for UK doctors but haven't been entirely successful in getting my questions fully answered, I was wondering (since you touched upon the idea of finances) if UK doctors have to pay any malpractice insurance (as you may or may not know here in the USA say if you want to be an OB/GYN and it's your passion and all you have to end up paying around $150,000 in medical malpractice insurance (for Florida) which makes doctors having to move out of state) or if the 'malpractice insurance' is already built INTO the NHS?

 

[Prolif]

I'm sorry I've tried searching and googling Medical Malpractice Inurance for UK doctors but haven't been entirely successful in getting my questions fully answered, I was wondering (since you touched upon the idea of finances) if UK doctors have to pay any malpractice insurance (as you may or may not know here in the USA say if you want to be an OB/GYN and it's your passion and all you have to end up paying around $150,000 in medical malpractice insurance (for Florida) which makes doctors having to move out of state) or if the 'malpractice insurance' is already built INTO the NHS?

NHS doctors are covered by the NHS. Private employers also cover their doctors. The self employed doctor as it exists in the US doesnt really exist here, so insurance tends to be done on the organisational level rather than the individual level.

Malpractise insurance is to an extent covered by the NHS, but if you do something really stupid then ultimately your neck is on the line, not so much financially but professionally and even criminally liable to pay the consequences.