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Hey, guys!
I was wondering who here can tell me, in what field does a surgeon make the most in England, and please, also attach a salary that's up to date!

God Bless!

I love England! 😍
 
Probably Orthopaedics these days. Basic salary from the NHS (full time, which I think is 7 sessions a week these days) of approx £70k, then you add onto that with your private practice. The majority will be earning in the £150k area, if you want to work and not do much else you can go over the £200k mark...

Cardiothoracics used to be a good bet, but with all the stenting etc they're doing these days, I'm not sure how long that's going to last.

You want something that has a good private practice to earn money over here - so, something common, fairly quick operation, preferably one with quite a long wait on the NHS, doesn't usually require ICU facilities.

Orthopods have it made - just think of all the knee and hip replacements!
 
FionaS said:
Probably Orthopaedics these days. Basic salary from the NHS (full time, which I think is 7 sessions a week these days) of approx £70k, then you add onto that with your private practice. The majority will be earning in the £150k area, if you want to work and not do much else you can go over the £200k mark...

Cardiothoracics used to be a good bet, but with all the stenting etc they're doing these days, I'm not sure how long that's going to last.

You want something that has a good private practice to earn money over here - so, something common, fairly quick operation, preferably one with quite a long wait on the NHS, doesn't usually require ICU facilities.

Orthopods have it made - just think of all the knee and hip replacements!
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what does the 'k' in 150k stand for?
 
Um... :laugh: k = kilo = 1000. like kJ = kilojoules, kcal = kilocalories. 150k = 150,000 bucks (or GBP in this case). Have you really never heard of this before? It's a pretty basic term... you need to do more banking/investing 🙂. Ever heard of 401k / stock options? Even if you're not in finance, it's something that most people have heard about by the time they're 16.
 
leorl said:
Um... :laugh: k = kilo = 1000. like kJ = kilojoules, kcal = kilocalories. 150k = 150,000 bucks (or GBP in this case). Have you really never heard of this before? It's a pretty basic term... you need to do more banking/investing 🙂. Ever heard of 401k / stock options? Even if you're not in finance, it's something that most people have heard about by the time they're 16.
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Give me an English site for up to date salaries for Surgeons in UK, please! 😀
 
NarcissaBlack said:
How much does a Cardiovascular Surgeon make in UK?
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We're all nice people around here but try doing some of your own research just because we're medical students doesn't mean we know the salary scales of every speciality in every country. A quick google search got me this .
 
leorl said:
Um... :laugh: k = kilo = 1000. like kJ = kilojoules, kcal = kilocalories. 150k = 150,000 bucks (or GBP in this case). Have you really never heard of this before? It's a pretty basic term... you need to do more banking/investing 🙂. Ever heard of 401k / stock options? Even if you're not in finance, it's something that most people have heard about by the time they're 16.
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401k is an addendum number not a 401,000.
 
FionaS said:
Probably Orthopaedics these days. Basic salary from the NHS (full time, which I think is 7 sessions a week these days) of approx £70k, then you add onto that with your private practice. The majority will be earning in the £150k area, if you want to work and not do much else you can go over the £200k mark...

Cardiothoracics used to be a good bet, but with all the stenting etc they're doing these days, I'm not sure how long that's going to last.

You want something that has a good private practice to earn money over here - so, something common, fairly quick operation, preferably one with quite a long wait on the NHS, doesn't usually require ICU facilities.

Orthopods have it made - just think of all the knee and hip replacements!
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ummm 150,000 pounds/yr?? Holy crap, I feel sorry for u guys, the people selling the ortho medical devices are making more than that in the US.

Wow, please keep socialist healthcare on your side of the Atlantic.
 
Pollicis said:
are you in med school or grade school?
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Sometimes I wonder! Med school is like a throw back to at least early highschool. People randomly making out with each other, gossiping, fighting and holding grudges and then reforming friendships.

I love it, it's like tv.
 
LADoc00 said:
ummm 150,000 pounds/yr?? Holy crap, I feel sorry for u guys, the people selling the ortho medical devices are making more than that in the US.

Wow, please keep socialist healthcare on your side of the Atlantic.
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What do orthopaedic surgeons make in America?

£150k is about $260K
 
Microkey said:
What do orthopaedic surgeons make in America?

£150k is about $260K
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That doesn't matter if you're not spending your money in the USA. What matters is the cost of living where you live. 150k pounds is not a lot if an average house costs $300K, food is expensive, and gas is expensive. It's all relative.
 
Megboo said:
That doesn't matter if you're not spending your money in the USA. What matters is the cost of living where you live. 150k pounds is not a lot if an average house costs $300K, food is expensive, and gas is expensive. It's all relative.
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Very few people buy a house outright, they take out a mortgage. If anything living costs are higher in the UK than in America, yet doctors live very comfortabley.
 
Microkey said:
Very few people buy a house outright, they take out a mortgage. If anything living costs are higher in the UK than in America, yet doctors live very comfortabley.
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Yes, but the higher the cost of the house, the higher the monthly payments, and adding that into your loan payment and whatever other payments you have can get expensive.
 
Megboo said:
Yes, but the higher the cost of the house, the higher the monthly payments, and adding that into your loan payment and whatever other payments you have can get expensive.
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We don't have loans to repay in Ireland and even though British students have to pay some fees they're only a couple of thousand punds a year an amount which many people caqn pay outright without having loans even with loans I heard on the tv the other day English students have approx 36,000 ddebt when they graduate which is a lot less than American students
 
Lets look beyond the money shall we. UK physician makes a comfortably living. No, its not as comfortable as an American physician. But overall, I think they're a lot happier. What I would give to not have to deal with 3rd party payers, to give my patients what is needed and not have to worry about ruining their livelihood. The health care system in America is degrading us as doctors. Our patients don't trust us as much as they used to. Our profession is undergoing a crisis that if not resolved, will be detrimental to all.
 
Yep,

I'm in the UK now, doing medicine, and after growing up in Canada, I can see the lure of living in UK. Sure, a surgeon in U.S may make 500K USD while the same surgeon in UK may make 150K GBP, but ppl forget other things...

ie. Health care is FREE in UK.

Education is practically FREE in UK. My friends doing medicine in states are spending 60-70K/year (at private schools, not state obviously), and this after many have dumped over 80-100K already on their undergrad degree. Whereas my mates here in UK are spending 20K/year for 5 years, straight from highschool, and will then begin to earn 21K GBP in their foundation year, meaning they will already start earning money when they are 23-24 years old. while 21K is not great, its better than nothing....

So while cost of living and pay in UK may be 'worse' than U.S, there are other factors to look at. Besides, once the American pays off their 500K debt, their kids are in college and the 500K comes right out of the pocket again!


jason46242003 said:
Lets look beyond the money shall we. UK physician makes a comfortably living. No, its not as comfortable as an American physician. But overall, I think they're a lot happier. What I would give to not have to deal with 3rd party payers, to give my patients what is needed and not have to worry about ruining their livelihood. The health care system in America is degrading us as doctors. Our patients don't trust us as much as they used to. Our profession is undergoing a crisis that if not resolved, will be detrimental to all.
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