Salary Anesthesia Pain
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Whoops, ignore my post was for the other poster
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that seems awfully low for Pain. Based on both MGMA data and anecdotally, those offers are much lower. Are these academic jobs? Are they in really big cities (e.g: NYC)? What the the locations and practice type for these jobs?
Chicagoland. Maybe it's because they heard physiatrists are no fun at cocktail parties and they low ball? 😀
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Are these partnerships track with production bonuses or salary with RVU adjustments or academic pyramid scheme with empty promises. In some markets PMR market rate is set by large academic hospital that low ball. In Boston Spaulding/Harvard under pay and lower the entire market as the control more than 70% of PMR docs in the state In the state. I imagine in Chicago and NYC it’s the same as they are more hospital heavy.
The ones I've received have varied. No academics. I don't think locally hospitals set the market rate. Just lots of doctors and horrible saturation. Like my former boss told a colleague of mine, "If you don't take this job, I have 10 other people that will." Spaulding is a low baller I hear as well. I had a colleague who was a Pedi neurologist and she was offered 95k post fellowship at Spaulding or Boston's children I forget which one - this was a few years ago but still. ridonkulous!
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So wait are these academic jobs? hospital employed? or private practice?
I've personally known Chicagland PM&R residents (did my medical school there and I did aways at all Chicago PM&R programs) received 280k starting offerings for just PM&R and this was several years ago.
Pain salaries should not be $250 starting; something does not make sense.
the jobs that have been advertised to me for pain in the range described are for private practice not academic. I have not known anyone in the Chicagoland area to have an offer for a PM&R job for 280 in the Chicagoland area - and I have worked for a number of the groups in the Chicagoland area, and have interviewed with prob most of them at one point or another. Independent contractor SNF work 280 +sure but that's not salary.
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Jeez. What would you make in a non-pandemic year? And what city?
New Jersey. The armpit..trade off is I barely took vacation, maybe like 2 weeks the whole year
Where you collections based or salary? That would be unusual here.
That number = salary + productivity bonus
I really just got rid of a lot of unnecessaries in my schedule. No lunch, shortened new patient and follow up slots, on really busy days had a Pa for part of the time. Mind you, very minimal narcs, 30% Medicare and associated plans, the rest commercial, minimal comp/PI. Full service including emgs and regen (but all PRP, and not a lot). Maybe like 5 stim trials last year, no implants. The rest bread and butter (if you consider rfa bread and butter) I’m also 12 years in and not really looking to “find my way” as a doc. Like my fellowship director said, “at some point you know what you know and you know what you don’t know, and chances are at some point, what you don’t know is just not known.”
But I’m Jersey, 360k is like 250k in another state, so keep that in mind..doesn’t go too far if you have a mortgage and a young family..
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MGMA is 400 for coastal, 500-600 for southern/midwest
For PM&R or pain?
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Inpatient PM&R? Medical Director? Can you describe more about the role?
I met Zafonte while rotating there.
