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I'm looking at scheduling my NBME self-assessment shortly, and I'm wondering: can we print out the questions (so they can be looked at later and used to study), or does the test somehow prevent one from doing that?
 
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Ruban said:
I'm looking at scheduling my NBME self-assessment shortly, and I'm wondering: can we print out the questions (so they can be looked at later and used to study), or does the test somehow prevent one from doing that?
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I wish too! Unfortunately, the only thing it will let you print out is your grade report after you complete the exam. The test gives your 4 blocks of 50 questions. Once you complete a block you may not go back.
 
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I have heard that using the Opera browser allows you to copy & paste the material into Word.
 
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What is it, specifically, about the practice exam that prevents you from just pressing File-->Print in the browser? Is it launched in a Javascript window or something?

carrigallen said:
I have heard that using the Opera browser allows you to copy & paste the material into Word.
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maverick_pkg said:
ya opera browser allows u to copy. it allows in qbank too 🙂
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hi
what's an opera browser and how do i get one ? can you tell me a website where i could download this browser. thanks
 
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I had no trouble using Firefox to copy and paste the questions from the NBME exam on my Mac; I saved about half of them, mostly questions I was clueless on to go back and look up.

I definitely have to recommend the NBME thingy; a good confidence boost if you do well, and if not, it's a handy diagnostic (borderline performance in Behavioral Science, woo!).
 
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On this topic...


Did any of you who already took the exam and also took the NBME pretests see any repeated questions or topics. Or are these pretty much strictly dead questions?
 
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people i know reported that they definitely saw stuff from the released items (the free 150 question test) but not from NBMEs.
 
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can you set the opera browser up to copy to word automatically or do you have to do it manually on every question?
 
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I would like people on this thread to know that I have copied and pasted this thread's http and emailed it to NBME about test indescrepancy. No one should be able to do this illegally. Just a reminder, NBME has prosecuted people for cheating.

http://www.nbme.org/about/contact.asp
 
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TheDudeabides said:
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You can say what you want, but as future physicians, the most important quality is INTEGRITY. I have been notified that when you register to take the exam, you have to put in personal information and give a credit card for verification. Therefore, if you use one of the above mentioned browsers they will be able to find you. It isn't smart to risk it, nor ethical.
 
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p53 said:
You can say what you want, but as future physicians, the most important quality is INTEGRITY. I have been notified that when you register to take the exam, you have to put in personal information and give a credit card for verification. Therefore, if you use one of the above mentioned browsers they will be able to find you. It isn't smart to risk it, nor ethical.
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Agree, integrity is great...but tattling? Come on
 
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yah dude....tattling?

OOOOHHHH....your sending the link of our thread to them........maybe i'll go hide.....

by the way, how is this cheating? they freaking released those questions....I'm sure they don't expect people to seriously lock themselves in there room and not write down anything while they take the test....plus IDIOT they let you take it virtually untimed! (4 hours/test in tutor mode). They expect you to look up the answers to the questions! Why else would you need four hours for 50 questions! Tutor mode YO-YO!
 
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north2southOMFS said:
yah dude....tattling?

OOOOHHHH....your sending the link of our thread to them........maybe i'll go hide.....

by the way, how is this cheating? they freaking released those questions....I'm sure they don't expect people to seriously lock themselves in there room and not write down anything while they take the test....plus IDIOT they let you take it virtually untimed! (4 hours/test in tutor mode). They expect you to look up the answers to the questions! Why else would you need four hours for 50 questions!
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TERMS, CONDITIONS AND DISCLAIMERS
You must read this section before proceeding.
Please read this agreement carefully before proceeding. By participating in the self-assessment you attest that you agree to be bound by the terms and conditions below.

The material presented in this self-assessment is provided by the National Board of Medical Examiners (NBME®) for educational purposes only. The multiple choice questions presented on the assessments are based on information typically covered during basic science medical education (Comprehensive Basic Science Self Assessment) and core clinical clerkships (Comprehensive Clinical Science Self Assessment) and are intended for individuals who have participated in these educational experiences. These self-assessments resemble the content of USMLE™ Step 1 and Step 2, respectively, and medical students and graduates may find this to be a valuable tool in structuring their study as they prepare to take USMLE Step 1 and Step 2. The self-assessments are not intended to predict a performance on USMLE. Rather, the self-assessments are intended to be used as a tool to determine a participant's relative areas of strengths and weakness in general topic areas.

Under no circumstances shall the NBME be liable for any damages or costs that may result in any way from your reliance on or use of the information derived from your participation in the self-assessment service.

The materials presented on the self-assessments are owned and copyrighted by the NBME. Any unauthorized reproduction of these materials, by any means, including but not limited to, storage in a retrieval system, transmission, printing, memorization, or distribution is strictly prohibited.

NBME reserves the right to change or modify these Terms, Conditions and Disclaimers at any time, and you agree to give effect to such changes or modifications upon being posted to the NBME Self-Assessment Services Interactive Website.

By participating in a self-assessment you acknowledge that you have read, understood and agreed to be bound by these Terms, Conditions and Disclaimers. If you do not wish to be bound by these Terms, Conditions and Disclaimers, you should not participate in the assessment.
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Now, please shut up, and stop rationalizing like a fool.
 
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I seem to recall you (p53) recommending people to buy Goljan material from ebay. That material is copyrighted just as the NBME practice test is. Whats the difference?
 
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p53 said:
The materials presented on the self-assessments are owned and copyrighted by the NBME. Any unauthorized reproduction of these materials, by any means, including but not limited to, storage in a retrieval system, transmission, printing, memorization, or distribution is strictly prohibited.


Now, please shut up, and stop rationalizing like a fool.
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Uh Oh, while i was taking the test untimed, I accidentally memorized a question or two because I wanted to look it up later.....

........Geeze dude, what are you like 10.
 
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Linus2807 said:
I seem to recall you (p53) recommending people to buy Goljan material from ebay. That material is copyrighted just as the NBME practice test is. Whats the difference?
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I HAVE NEVER RECOMMENDED PEOPLE TO BUY GOLJAN'S MATERIAL ON EBAY, LIAR. YES, I LISTEN TO GOLJAN BUT A FRIEND GAVE ME A COPY OF THE CD. I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND OR BUY ILLEGAL STUFF.
 
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No, you need the 500+ (300 for general and 200 for systemic) page underground notes floating around on EBAY. Once you find a picture of BigFrank's thumb with the 267, you know you found the right one.
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Here is the link to the topic in which you talk of goljan and his notes and how to get them on ebay. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=2526459#post2526459
 
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Also did you think it was OK to listen to the goljan audio. A person with perfect integrity would not listen to something that he knows is in violoation of copyright laws.
 
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Linus2807 said:
Here is the link to the topic in which you talk of goljan and his notes and how to get them on ebay. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=2526459#post2526459
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I told him that is what he needed to follow the audio. I DID NOT TELL HIM TO BUY IT. There is a difference. You might want to take a LOGIC class as an elective so you won't make illogical assumptions and appear as a ***** to your future patients when you talk to them.
 
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Linus2807 said:
Also did you think it was OK to listen to the goljan audio. A person with perfect integrity would not listen to something that he knows is in violoation of copyright laws.
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Assuming again! You are definitely inept in the logic department. I never said I had perfect integrity.

Listening to Goljan, and PAYING someone on EBAY for illegal audio is different. The person on EBAY is making illegal money off Goljan's name. That is wrong.

Similarly, copying an official NBME exam is wrong because on the website it specifies it is prohibitedl in the terms and conditions.

Now buzz off, I don't have time to use reason with someone that is cerebrally challenged to understand logic.
 
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p53 said:
I never said I had perfect integrity.
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Niether did we, so don't be such a mean SOB.

You know all 5000 songs on my computer are from my friend after he downloaded them on Kazaa. Thank GOD my conscience is in the clear and I have good integrity because I didn't steal them through Kazaa..my friend did and he just let me have them. I mean with your infinite ethical wisdom being a ******ed second or third year medical student you said it is OK if you get it from your friend right? Just as long as you didn't steal it yourself?......Isn't that your perfect logic placed into another real life situation...?
 
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A logic class...that is hilarious...if this doctor stuff does not work out for you maybe you should be a comedian.
With your logic...it is ok to listen to the goljan cd since it did not say it was illeagal but it is not ok to copy nbme since it says it is copyrighted.
My logic...they are the same thing....both are copyrighted and not to be reproduced (and i am talking about listening to and viewing the materials not selling them.), but then again i do need a logic class
 
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Linus2807 said:
A logic class...that is hilarious...if this doctor stuff does not work out for you maybe you should be a comedian.
With your logic...it is ok to listen to the goljan cd since it did not say it was illeagal but it is not ok to copy nbme since it says it is copyrighted.
My logic...they are the same thing....both are copyrighted and not to be reproduced (and i am talking about listening to and viewing the materials not selling them.), but then again i do need a logic class
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Defense Mechanism of HUMOR. Nice....

Yeah, LISTENING to copyrighted audio and COPYING copyrighted audio is different. I'll give you an example, listening to a song on the radio is legal even though it is a copyrighted song. However, COPYING the same song is illegal. I DID NOT COPY THE GOLJAN AUDIO, I'M JUST LISTENING TO IT.

If this is way over your head, I understand, you might not have the mental capacity to apply logic even if it was taught.
 
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first of all, i had no idea that we werent allowed to save or, god forbid, memorize questions from the NBME test so maybe you should have kindly informed people before running off and emailing them...

second, someone who copyright's his material is probably not okay with people listening to it without paying for his class - regardless of whether they bought the CD or not.

Comparing listening to an illegal copy of Goljan to listening to the radio is ridiculous...
 
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bigfrank said:
Wow. Maybe they'll give you bonus points on your exam. 🙄
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Frankie, this is the 4th time you have initiated a conversation with me. I have ignored you but your pursuit is relentless.

It is obvious you are trying to chip away at any opportunity to get back at me because I completely toileted your psyche in our original debate. ACTIONS speak louder than words my friend.

LET GO! Your mind should not be still preoccupied with me! That is pathetic.

Frankie, let go of me. We both know I am smarter than you, so accept it. Everytime you make a reference to me, you are only reinforcing the belief that you feel inferior to me.
 
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Radio stations have perission to play songs, did you have permission to listen to Goljan, if not then it is a violoation of copyright laws.
Lets use your logic again...if someone gave you a copy of the nbme practice test that another person copied, then you could study it, since you did not copy it, but then you would probably turn them in afterwards for violating copyright laws due to their lack of integrity
 
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Bounty said:
Comparing listening to an illegal copy of Goljan to listening to the radio is ridiculous...
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You need to brush up on some logic too.

Listening to a copyrighted song on the radio. Yes, listening to a copyrighted song on the radio is the same as listening to Goljan. In both cases, I am not illegally copying/reproducing the audio.
 
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p53 said:
You need to brush up on some logic too.

Listening to a copyrighted song on the radio. Yes, listening to a copyrighted song on the radio is the same as listening to Goljan. In both cases, I am not illegally copying/reproducing the audio.
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No it's not the same - musicians want you to listen to their songs on the radio, Goljan does not want you to listen to his lectures without paying for his class.
 
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Linus2807 said:
if someone gave you a copy of the nbme practice test that another person copied, then you could study it, since you did not copy it, but then you would probably turn them in afterwards for violating copyright laws due to their lack of integrity
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I agree with the first half, since I am not the one that Illegally COPIED the nbme test. As for the second half about turning somone in, you are ASSUMING again. Do you know me more than I know myself? STOP ASSUMING, and take a Logic class.
 
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p53 said:
Defense Mechanism of HUMOR. Nice....

I'll give you an example, listening to a song on the radio is legal even though it is a copyrighted song. However, COPYING the same song is illegal. I DID NOT COPY THE GOLJAN AUDIO, I'M JUST LISTENING TO IT. .
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wow!! And you speak about logic to others? You are comparing a song which the radio stations have got FULL PERMISSION AND AUTHORITY to use by the producers and artists, etc--because they PAID for it vs. ILLEGALLY recorded lectures that are floating around on sites, such as ebay. Why don't you email Dr. Goljan and get his PERMISSION to listen to the illegally copied audio first, before ASSUMING that listening to the illegal audio does not breach copyright laws. You are a dum ****

Try justifying your logic in a court of a law. Your theory is as good as Abu Musawi's plead of "I didn't have a part of the 9-11 bombings, I just KNEW that osama-bin laden was planning an attack".
 
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HiddenTruth said:
wow!! And you speak about logic to others? You are comparing a song which the radio stations have got FULL PERMISSION AND AUTHORITY to use by the producers and artists, etc--because they PAID for it vs. ILLEGALLY recorded lectures that are floating around on sites, such as ebay. Why don't you email Dr. Goljan and get his PERMISSION to listen to the illegally copied audio first, before ASSUMING that listening to the illegal audio does not breach copyright laws. You are a dum ****

Try justifying your logic in a court of a law. Your theory is as good as Abu Musawi's plead of "I didn't have a part of the 9-11 bombings, I just KNEW that osama-bin laden was planning an attack".
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Hidden you are a SIMPLETON, your use of displacement for Osama Bin Laden is transparent. You need help.

LOOK DUMMY, the analogy was to show that in BOTH instances I am listening to the material NOT copying it. When you use the arguement that the song is given permission YOU ARE CHANGING MY ORIGINAL ARGUMENT. Do you have the brain power to figure that out? I don't think so.

Once again for the simpletons, the reason I am using the radio analogy is to show that I AM LISTENING AND NOT COPYING THE AUDIO, not that the song is or isn't copyrighted to be played on the radio. My whole argument is that it is okay to listen to the audio but it is wrong to COPY THE AUDIO. Now stop sounding like *****s by attacking what constititues what is and isn't copyrighted, that is BESIDE my ARGUMENT.

Hidden, you are a complete dope. Everyone that reads your common sense questions on various threads know this fact.
 
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so if someone steals a car and gives it to you, you can keep it and drive it since you are not the one that stole it
or
if someone stole a semester final and gave it to you, you would use it to study since you did not steal it
 
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Linus2807 said:
if someone stole a semester final and gave it to you, you would use it to study since you did not steal it
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sure, but then he would turn them in after he took the test.....
 
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p53 said:
the radio analogy is to show that I AM LISTENING AND NOT COPYING THE AUDIO, not that the song is or isn't copyrighted to be played on the radio. My whole argument is that it is okay to listen to the audio but it is wrong to COPY THE AUDIO. Now stop sounding like *****s by attacking what constititues what is and isn't copyrighted, that is BESIDE my ARGUMENT..
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Simpleton, eh? Speak for yourself son. Your argument is as good as a donkey's gluteus maximus. I think you lack complete judgement yourself when you say the aforementioned bolded quote.

It isn't "OKAY" to LISTEN to an audio that is illegally copied or purchased. Likewise, it is not OKAY to COPY it. By intentionally listening to and taking part in something that has been illegally copied (to begin with) and obtained, you are as guilty as someone who would copy them. How can you justify the rightousness of taking part (i.e. listening) in an activity without having permission or having paid in full for the material. It is completely ok for you to THINK that; however, don't impose your beliefs on others and justify what is wrong. And, like I stated above, the only one to grant that "ok", per say, would be the original writer or "singer" of the material. So, for you to go on and on to sya that it is "ok" to listen and "not ok" to copy is inane. Maybe, you should consult Dr. Goljan and see if he thinks it is "ok" for you to listen to his ILLEGAL lectures (which you are fully aware of) that you obtained from ANYWHERE, but his kaplan lecture. Afterall, it is his work and material.

I personally listen to it myself, but I am not the one going around trying to justify that it is legitamate.

Moderators, please take care of this user. And, this thread needs to close. This is worthless. Troll!
 
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HiddenTruth said:
I personally listen to it myself
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Nice move, baby!

As for the arguments between us, each time you threw the first stone. The facts speak for itself. Out of the blue, you come in with your opinion on me like you mean something.

If anyone checks out previous threads between us it will be revealed that you are the TROLL following me around like a lost puppy. NOW LEAVE ME ALONE, and stop stalking me!
 
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p53 said:
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No wonder you are so defensive in this thread.
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I am not worried at all...is nbme going to come and look at my camera to see the pics
I also listen to goljan, and i am not worried about that either
i am not reproducing them or selling copies, i used them to go over them once with a friend who also took the test to compare answers, i dont even have the pics anymore

The reason i have been writing is due to you questioning the integrity of people on here when in fact you should be questioning yours
 
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Pox in a box said:
I agree, she's just trying to stir up trouble.
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p53 is a SHE? Does "she" have a congenital adrenal virilization syndrome? I sensed some increased androgen activity there. 😀
 
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