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Hello everyone,

I'm honestly lost on my school list and was wonder if anyone has any recommendations.

Stats:

ORM; NJ Resident; 1st Generation
(if this even makes a difference)

PharmD graduating in 2026 from RU.

cGPA: 3.46 (Slight upward trend) (I know it's pretty low lol)

sGPA: 3.3 (Slight upward trend)

Graduate Pharmacy GPA: ~3.6-3.7

MCAT: 512 (127/128/129/128) 1 attempt.

Clinical Hours: 1000 hour as a pharmacy intern (consultations and vaccinations) and 1000 hours across different rotations during pharmacy school.
These experience include:
200 hour ambulatory care rotation with pharmacist preceptor with full prescriptive authorities so I was essentially making medication changes with approval from my preceptor. Worked up patients, did full review of patient and plan with them without preceptor supervision. Essentially exactly what a family meds physician does.
400 hours at Penn Medicine Princeton doing medication reconciliations and providing recommendations to physicians in terms of medication management and antimicrobial stewardship. Worked 200 hours in the ED at the sight helping with medication questions and management along with preceptor.
200 hours at Old Bridge Medical Center doing medication reconciliation and assisting preceptor with recommendations (essentially the same as Penn Medicine).
200 hours at specialty pharmacy shadowing an ID physician and ID pharmacist in providing need based counseling on HIV and other disease states.

Non-Clinical Hours: ~800 hours as a Walgreens cashier. 400-500 hours of misc. rotations that shouldn't count as clinical since I was mostly filling medication with no patient encounters.

Non-Clinical volunteering: 40 hours NJ Special Olympics working with special needs athletes. Currently only 8 hours at a food bank but I'll probably have ~60-80 hours by application.

Research: 80 hours with a poster presentation.

LORs: 3 PharmD professors (should be quite strong on all of them).

Shadowing: 60 hours IM

My Current List:
Reach (MD):
NJMS
Hackensack
RWJMS
Cooper MD
SUNY
Albany
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Penn State
Quinnipiac

Baseline (DO):
Rowan Virtua
PCOM - PA
MSUCOM
UNECOM
NYIT-COM

I'm dead set on family med as my specialty and loved every second of my time during my rotation so it matters not to me in terms of DO/MD. That and also I don't believe I'm that competitive for MD. However, I want to maximize my chance in getting in this upcoming year to not have to reapp. I don't have a budget for the amount of schools so please recommend as many as you think I would be a decent fit at. Prefer to stay north east but not a requirement.
 
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Welcome to the forums. I don't know why you linked to Reddit.

Here's the deal: why are you just about to graduate from pharmacy school and want to add medical school debt? Any clinical experiences from pharmacy school will not count for a medical school application. Adcoms are wary of picking off someone who has made a choice as a health professional who hasn't worked for a significant period of time.

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It can be done, but I think you need to earn some money in your chosen profession. Pay off the debt you have now.

Have you talked with admissions professionals at the schools you listed about your situation or potential app?
 
Hello! Thanks for the reply. Not sure how this site works so maybe I mistakenly linked to reddit.


I've had clinical work as a pharmacy intern itself. I also spoke with several PharmD to MD students and they said that my rotation hours will definitely count towards my medical school application as long as they were meaningful and have actual patient interactions. I have my reasons on switching that I go into depth on in my personal statement.

In terms of debt, I am debt free with no student loans. Being instate for instate tuition + worked during school + parents helped pay off some of it so that's one of the reason why I'm making this jump. I agree, if I had a mountain of debt from pharmacy school I would never have considered this path. Also, I have not talked to any admissions professionals yet but I'll be scheduling one with Rowan DO soon.
 
Hello! Thanks for the reply. Not sure how this site works so maybe I mistakenly linked to reddit.


I've had clinical work as a pharmacy intern itself. I also spoke with several PharmD to MD students and they said that my rotation hours will definitely count towards my medical school application as long as they were meaningful and have actual patient interactions. I have my reasons on switching that I go into depth on in my personal statement.

In terms of debt, I am debt free with no student loans. Being instate for instate tuition + worked during school + parents helped pay off some of it so that's one of the reason why I'm making this jump. I agree, if I had a mountain of debt from pharmacy school I would never have considered this path. Also, I have not talked to any admissions professionals yet but I'll be scheduling one with Rowan DO soon.
I would just be careful. I don't know what the OB3 rules say about limiting your lifetime eligibility of federal loans to around 250K, but if you didn't pull any federal loans in pharmacy school, great. You may be staying into financing medical school with 600K in private loans with limited repayment options. Ask explicot questions to finaid officers as soon as the rules come out in June.
 
The SUNYs admit few non residents with your stats. You could add these MD schools:
Eastern Virginia
George Washington
Wake Forest
Methodist
NOVA MD
Belmont
Alice Walton
TCU
Ponce (St. Louis)
Rosalind Franklin
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Roseman
You could add these DO schools:
Touro-NY
LECOM
WVSOM
CUSOM
DMU-COM
ATSU-KCOM
KCU-COM
TUNCOM
 
I would just be careful. I don't know what the OB3 rules say about limiting your lifetime eligibility of federal loans to around 250K, but if you didn't pull any federal loans in pharmacy school, great. You may be staying into financing medical school with 600K in private loans with limited repayment options. Ask explicot questions to finaid officers as soon as the rules come out in June.
I haven't pulled any federal loans out so I still have the entire limit. Hopefully will be working part time as a pharmacist while in med school so I'll be able to cover my expenses. Thanks for all the advice so far!
 
The SUNYs admit few non residents with your stats. You could add these MD schools:
Eastern Virginia
George Washington
Wake Forest
Methodist
NOVA MD
Belmont
Alice Walton
TCU
Ponce (St. Louis)
Rosalind Franklin
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Roseman
You could add these DO schools:
Touro-NY
LECOM
WVSOM
CUSOM
DMU-COM
ATSU-KCOM
KCU-COM
TUNCOM
Thanks for providing a comprehensive list! I'll add these to my list to apply to.
 
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