School requires us to read big robbins

[ghiblijiang]

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I'm a first year in a systems curriculum and we're about to start pathology. The pathology lectures from my school are outlines on how to read big robbins, so we basically won't be taught at pathology all and even some second years skip the lectures and just read robbins. But I'm an immigrant and grew up poor, playing sand instead of reading books, so I don't learn well reading. I feel like I learn a lot better from pictures rather than blocks of text. I'm wondering are there reliable resources that I can use to learn pathology and the big picture behind diseases to supplement pathoma and the robbins review book?

 

[831929]

I'm a first year in a systems curriculum and we're about to start pathology. The pathology lectures from my school are outlines on how to read big robbins, so we basically won't be taught at pathology all and even some second years skip the lectures and just read robbins. But I'm an immigrant and grew up poor, playing sand instead of reading books, so I don't learn well reading. I feel like I learn a lot better from pictures rather than blocks of text. I'm wondering are there reliable resources that I can use to learn pathology and the big picture behind diseases to supplement pathoma and the robbins review book?

Don't need to supplement those. Pathoma goes into a lot, you just have to pay attention and watch a few times.

 

[coldcase331]

I'm a first year in a systems curriculum and we're about to start pathology. The pathology lectures from my school are outlines on how to read big robbins, so we basically won't be taught at pathology all and even some second years skip the lectures and just read robbins. But I'm an immigrant and grew up poor, playing sand instead of reading books, so I don't learn well reading. I feel like I learn a lot better from pictures rather than blocks of text. I'm wondering are there reliable resources that I can use to learn pathology and the big picture behind diseases to supplement pathoma and the robbins review book?

My school also has big Robbins as “required reading”, yet I don’t know a single person in my class that uses it. I would say combo pathoma, first aid, and boards and beyond. You won’t be the highest scoring in the class, but you won’t lose sight of the high yield among the useless details.


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[House D.O.]

I'm a first year in a systems curriculum and we're about to start pathology. The pathology lectures from my school are outlines on how to read big robbins, so we basically won't be taught at pathology all and even some second years skip the lectures and just read robbins. But I'm an immigrant and grew up poor, playing sand instead of reading books, so I don't learn well reading. I feel like I learn a lot better from pictures rather than blocks of text. I'm wondering are there reliable resources that I can use to learn pathology and the big picture behind diseases to supplement pathoma and the robbins review book?

Ours did too... finished preclinicals without even cracking it open. Pathom/FA then fill in details for test with professors ppts

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[jcve34]

I’ve answered one of your threads already but for anyone else.

KCUMB requires you read Robbins. The only sure way to pass our classes is to read Robbins. Our class PPT are outlines of Robbins that you have to fill in on your own. We will be given basically days off so that we can read Robbins... 2 to 3x.

The only other way is to use other people’s outlines... who had to read Robbins.

For people that don’t believe me. Our professor will ask questions on minutiae.

If you don’t go to KCUMB then just use Pathoma, Boards and Beyond, Sketchy and class PPT. Utilize Robbins as a reference. Unless you hate yourself and want to read it.

 

[Rahas]

What do you guys think of robbin review to supplement pathoma/FA/UW for step 1? A somewhat superficial review, ie reading explanations only to incorrect answers, and within those focusing on the correct answer rather than all option choices. Helpful or no point?

 

[ghiblijiang]

I don't get why the professors are forcing such an archaic and inefficient way to study to students in a field that requires mastery of information instead of pump and dump. @jcve34 , if I can pass doing this do you think I should continue? I want to focus more on board prep rather than grades. My big didn't read robbins so I decided to take the risk and not read it either but still wanted to make sure I'd be in a good enough spot to pass. I ended up reading baby robbins 2x and looked at histology pics in medium robbins, got 2 pass through pathoma and did most of goljan RR 1x. Did robbins review book 1x. Didn't watch lecture nor went to CIS or read lecture slides. I had to flag ~30% of the questions on the exam for studying more than twice I did during neuroanatomy. It's doable but it's a dangerous way to study path in my school because I felt like I was going to fail the exam, and I ended up reading the whole time 2 weeks either way.

Is there a way to make this more efficient?

 

[ghiblijiang]

I don't know how I'm gonna be able to squeeze sketchy and B&B in there later on

 

[jcve34]

I don't get why the professors are forcing such an archaic and inefficient way to study to students in a field that requires mastery of information instead of pump and dump. @jcve34 , if I can pass doing this do you think I should continue? I want to focus more on board prep rather than grades. My big didn't read robbins so I decided to take the risk and not read it either but still wanted to make sure I'd be in a good enough spot to pass. I ended up reading baby robbins 2x and looked at histology pics in medium robbins, got 2 pass through pathoma and did most of goljan RR 1x. Did robbins review book 1x. Didn't watch lecture nor went to CIS or read lecture slides. I had to flag ~30% of the questions on the exam for studying more than twice I did during neuroanatomy. It's doable but it's a dangerous way to study path in my school because I felt like I was going to fail the exam, and I ended up reading the whole time 2 weeks either way.

Is there a way to make this more efficient?

I think you should ask around for some outlines. I don’t personally have any but there are ones out there. Yeah I think you could get away with it. Honestly knowing Robbins can help for boards it’s just brutal. Just pass the courses however you see fit. Strategies outlined will get you 70% for sure.

 

[ghiblijiang]

I think you should ask around for some outlines. I don’t personally have any but there are ones out there. Yeah I think you could get away with it. Honestly knowing Robbins can help for boards it’s just brutal. Just pass the courses however you see fit. Strategies outlined will get you 70% for sure.

Thank you! I'll try that out. Yea, the 2nd years say top 95%ile scorers read robbins. But I'm gonna try what worked for me before I commit to studying in a way I never did before.

 

[Mad Jack]

Ours did too... finished preclinicals without even cracking it open. Pathom/FA then fill in details for test with professors ppts

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Same. I would occasionally crack open big Robbins for clarification or to refresh my memory, as it is a wonderful book, but I never truly needed it.

 

[valuat]

I did read some Robbins chapters. It's a very good book, but by no means efficient for Step 1.

Pathoma and BB are great, but are not for learning, IMHO. They are for remembering stuff you should have seen sometime in the past.

I'm on dedicated right now and whenever I see something on Pathoma that needs some clarification I go to Goljan's book.

The pictures on Robbins are great though. You can also try WebPath, good pictures, some explanations.