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What are some great Pre-vet schools? (us)
In California UC Davis, Both of the Cal Polys, CSU Fresno have good pre-vet programs.What are some great Pre-vet schools? (us)
Major in History, English, Fashion Design, Neurobiology, Art, Political Science, something other than Animal Science. Although most of my colleagues hold degrees in AnSci, they seem far less prepared for the hard science of medicine than those of us who did pre-req's on the side. I have a group of 7 from my class who come over to my house so that I can teach them the relevant biochem or physio or physics for the current classes.
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Go wherever you want. Major in something that actually interests you. Do not limit your search for an undergrad program to schools that actually have a pre-vet major. Admissions officers frown on square applicants. SO, be rounded. Major in History, English, Fashion Design, Neurobiology, Art, Political Science, something other than Animal Science. Although most of my colleagues hold degrees in AnSci, they seem far less prepared for the hard science of medicine than those of us who did pre-req's on the side. I have a group of 7 from my class who come over to my house so that I can teach them the relevant biochem or physio or physics for the current classes.
Just a few ideas from the other side.
Jenn
I think you missed part of the point... You still have to do all the prereq classes (bio/chem/orgo/physics/etc.), no matter your major. So you can major in something non-science that interests you, and just take the science classes you need for prereqs - and possibly learn more from them than if you were doing the whole science degree.Aside from neurobiology, how are any of those other majors going to prepare you any more for hard sciences than animal science?
The point here isn't that it prepares you better for vet school, it prepares you better for LIFE. Vet and med schools have *very* focused curricula, so if you haven't got a breadth of education and life skills before you go in, you're not going to learn them there. I think that's why both vet and med adcoms are reputed to like people with broad/varied backgrounds over those who have done nothing but science.ri23 said:Some say that it adds a unique element to your application if you have a double major/minor in something non-relevant, but I honestly can't see how that would better prepare you for vet school.
I think you missed part of the point... You still have to do all the prereq classes (bio/chem/orgo/physics/etc.), no matter your major. So you can major in something non-science that interests you, and just take the science classes you need for prereqs - and possibly learn more from them than if you were doing the whole science degree.
What did you guys all major/minor in?
Thanks. I will definitely look. You guys are really helpful. 🙂
What did you guys all major/minor in?
Thanks.
Is it smarter to choose an undergraduate school close to your graduate school? - Like a better chance of getting in?
And I was reading some of the threads posted and I was also wondering... are there any "bad" vet schools. I have a list of the 28 in the u.s. but are there any you can think of i should "avoid"?
Ross and St. George's- both in the Caribbean. If you have a SO that you were planning on taking with you, be forewarned that they cannot work while there. So you will have to take out enough in loans to support both of you. (Or be independently wealthy). Also, these are not accredited schools, so there are extra hoops when you try to get licensure in the states.
Western U is new, and has not yet graduated a class. Also, they do not have a clinic on-site. Makes it difficult to get into clinical rotations.
Good luck
J
Thanks. I will definitely look. You guys are really helpful. 🙂
What did you guys all major/minor in?
I'm not sure the situation is quite as dire as this. Not all that many schools actually had a stats requirement this past year (maybe half?). The ones that did, what they described was just your standard 3-unit undergrad Probability and Statistics 101. That is, exactly what was probably covered by the AP course. I guess this may be one of those secret unstated "adcoms would rather see..." situations, but I really didn't get that impression.Most (if not all) vet schools require statistics and may accept AP credit, but would like to see actual college credit in an upper division course (from my understanding).
I've noticed that too, I can really only speculate but maybe they don't want to "miss out" on some really good applicants just because of some pre-req issues-but that doesn't really explain why the other schools wouldn't do the same. Maybe it's to keep it really competitive, by having more applicants than other schools w/ more pre-reqs.Those schools with prestigious names and/or strong academic reputations tend to have fewer defined requirements, whereas the ones that require everything under the sun tend to be lower on the prestige scale. I just wonder why that is. It's certainly not easier to get into the schools with fewer requirements, because obviously everybody has the basics and so you have to have something else that impresses them.
I agree, and this was definitely one of my main criteria, but to others who might be daunted by odd prereqs... All schools are going to be pretty adamant about the basic bio/chem/orgo etc. But some of the others you can get around with a little creativity. For instance, if you've got a lot of research experience and have given talks or poster presentations at scientific conferences, you might be able to get a waiver on the public speaking req. This is probably even less common, but I'd taken a 2-credit pass/fail grad seminar in statistics without ever having taken a standard undergrad stats course, and both schools I applied to that required statistics let me slide.I think the easiest way to decide where to apply from that long list on VMCAS is to look at prereq's first.
One thing you probably want to look for in an undergraduate institution is a good pre-vet advising program (which a school may have even if they don't have a pre-vet major). They can help you make decisions about what you need to do to get into your favorite vet schools. Most importantly, they'll have connections to be able to direct you to good clinical experiences (docs in the area who are particularly interested in teaching, the best summer internships, etc.).
I didn't start considering vet school until after college, so I haven't the faintest idea how the pre-vet advising was at mine (University of Delaware). I do know that we had a distinct pre-vet program through the College of Agriculture, whereas some schools kind of roll all the "pre-health" students into one advising program. I'm guessing that state schools (or large private schools) would be more likely to have dedicated pre-vet advising, just because there are enough people to warrant it. You could also check to see if there's a pre-vet student club - UC Berkeley has one, and it's "chaperoned" by the campus research vets, which again is good for making contacts.
Speaking of the Ag College, if you're into large animals or production medicine, then picking a university with an ag school would also be another consideration. UD had a dairy herd, a horse barn, and a whole load of chickens - and that's just what I could see driving past. I had some pre-vet friends and I know they took a whole bunch of hands-on classes using those animals.
So anyway, I don't have recommendations for specific schools as being "good" for pre-vet because I wasn't one. But these are things I'd think might affect the quality of your experience... So maybe other people have recommendations for schools that are particularly good on some of these criteria?
that's exactly what i had! small liberal arts school with me and another kid; but i was the only one to go through the HPAC. i was pretty lucky though in that my advisor did know *something* about vet schools, though i did enlighten her on some things during the process.I went to a small liberal arts college where I was one of two pre-vets in my class, and I LOVED it, but I have to say that my life would have been soooo much easier with a good pre-vet advising program! My school has what they call a health professions advisory committee, which is very knowledgable about the med school admissions process, but practically clueless about vet school. Luckily for me I've worked at a vet school for the past 2 years and thus had a pretty good grasp on the admissions process by the time I applied...and gently tried to enlighten the committee in the process.
Somehow I don't think it worked though...they kept asking me when I was taking the MCAT, and during my interview one of them asked me if I knew how to horse-whisper. And he was dead serious.