Schools that don't use a cadaver lab...

[LSUTiger18]

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Does anyone know of any schools that don't use cadavers for gross anatomy? If so, let me know how you like it and what are the best study tools (aside from an atlas).

 

[Chris127]

Does anyone know of any schools that don't use cadavers for gross anatomy? If so, let me know how you like it and what are the best study tools (aside from an atlas).

Why is it that you dont want to use a cadaver? I imagine thats kind of defeating the purpose of the class.

BTW, your not on LSU campus in BR by any chance are you?

 

[LSUTiger18]

Why is it that you dont want to use a cadaver? I imagine thats kind of defeating the purpose of the class.

BTW, your not on LSU campus in BR by any chance are you?

I, like most of my classmates, want to use cadavers and have used cadavers the past 3 weeks of school. But, since the storm they are moving our campus to Baton Rouge and we are most likely not getting our cadavers back. That is why I ask the question.

 

[fedor]

I believe Michigan had online anatomy videos which were pretty good. You could probably find the thread containing the link if you are so inclined.

 

[Chris127]

Tiger, Are you taking your courses at Pennington in BR now?

 

[LSUTiger18]

Tiger, Are you taking your courses at Pennington in BR now?

We are supposed to start on September 26 depending on the housing situation. The word is they are bringing in a cruise ship and FEMA trailers. My time is spent between Lafayette and Baton Rouge right now.

 

[LSUTiger18]

Anyone????

 

[Taus]

Try using Rohens "Color Atlas of Anatomy".....all of the pictures are from real dissections

 

[katrinadams9]

I know Michigan State's medical school doesn't require dissection with cadavers for their anatomy class. Apparently they have prosected specimens to look at. I have heard that there is an elective anatomy dissection course they can take on top of the usual anatomy course though.

 

[vhawk]

Well, this isnt entirely helpful to you or really answering your question at all, but I can't imagine why dissection of the cadaver is that essential. You guys make it seem like you can't properly learn anatomy without dissecting a cadaver, but thats ridiculous. I can only assume that in 10 yrs no med schools will have cadavers (for cost reasons if no others, labs are expensive to maintain, instructors to pay, etc.) Now, from video dissecitons, CD dissections and manuals you can really learn everything you need to know. Plus, relationships are so much more important. Most docs will never again see a body in anywhere near a similar state as their cadaver (surgeons maybe, but even then only on a specific, small section). Just cause its tradition and old doesnt make it great.

 

[skoaner]

If you have access to Accland's Living Anatomy videos you should be money

 

[yellowcat322]

Well, this isnt entirely helpful to you or really answering your question at all, but I can't imagine why dissection of the cadaver is that essential. You guys make it seem like you can't properly learn anatomy without dissecting a cadaver, but thats ridiculous. I can only assume that in 10 yrs no med schools will have cadavers (for cost reasons if no others, labs are expensive to maintain, instructors to pay, etc.) Now, from video dissecitons, CD dissections and manuals you can really learn everything you need to know. Plus, relationships are so much more important. Most docs will never again see a body in anywhere near a similar state as their cadaver (surgeons maybe, but even then only on a specific, small section). Just cause its tradition and old doesnt make it great.

I disagree. True, you COULD learn anatomy without dissection, but it makes it way more tedious, you'll put in way more work and still not have as clear a picture as with a cadaver. It's like you can be taught math and you can watch your professor solve math problems but until you work through the problems yourself, you don't really master it. I know every inch of the body that I have dissected because I literally exposed it and went over it myself. I will agree though, that a superb grasp of anatomy may not be essential for all medical fields and may perhaps be made into an elective to cut costs.

 

[vhawk]

I disagree. True, you COULD learn anatomy without dissection, but it makes it way more tedious, you'll put in way more work and still not have as clear a picture as with a cadaver. It's like you can be taught math and you can watch your professor solve math problems but until you work through the problems yourself, you don't really master it. I know every inch of the body that I have dissected because I literally exposed it and went over it myself. I will agree though, that a superb grasp of anatomy may not be essential for all medical fields and may perhaps be made into an elective to cut costs.

Yeah, I guess thats kind of what I was getting at. I agree you might not get EXACTLY as full of an understanding, but you certainly could learn it well enough for nearly all specialties, with specific specialty training necessary anyways depending on what you do. I wasn't really bagging on dissection, just on the idea that it is absolutely necessary to med education, which seems to be a nostalgic view in my opinion.

 

[Wiggy73]

The Visible Human Project is free online...you can Google it, it's got a TON of cross sections of a real cadaver.

 

[Termwean]

I disagree. True, you COULD learn anatomy without dissection, but it makes it way more tedious, you'll put in way more work and still not have as clear a picture as with a cadaver. It's like you can be taught math and you can watch your professor solve math problems but until you work through the problems yourself, you don't really master it. I know every inch of the body that I have dissected because I literally exposed it and went over it myself. I will agree though, that a superb grasp of anatomy may not be essential for all medical fields and may perhaps be made into an elective to cut costs.

Dude....you're going to forget all about your cadaver by next year and 9/10ths of what you learn in Gross

 

[fun8stuff]

i feel that dissection is kind of a waste of time, unless you are interested in surgery or pathology. however, i feel that a cadaver is essential. prosection would be optimal. only because i can learn the material on prosections just as well and in a fraction of the time it takes to dissect out the structures. to me, dissection is tedious and gets old fast. ZZZZZzzzzzzzz........ but at the same time i feel it is a once in a lifetime experience that I don't think I would want to trade.

to the OP, i think you should study for the test. if they are going to show you real pics of cadavers, then use rohens. if they will be netter pics, study netter.... etc. however, i don't think pictures can substitute for the real thing. but, sounds like you don't have much of an option. good luck.

 

[Comfortdoc]

This site has good dissection videos. People in my class used it to study when they didn't want to do extra time in the lab.

http://www.anatomy.wisc.edu/courses/gross/index.html

 

[size_tens]

I agree that dissection can be tedious at times (especially when you find yourself digging through a lot of superficial fascia). However taking a lot of time to dig out certain structures will often give you a very good understanding of where they are and how to find them. Not only that but you can get a very good understanding of the surrounding areas as well. This is especially applicable to the head and neck.