Schools that require disclosure of traffic violation

[honeybee87]

Specifically speeding. Which schools require disclosure?

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[deleted987519]

Specifically speeding. Which schools require disclosure?

Cincinnati

 

[honeybee87]

Cincinnati

Dammit I didn’t put anything

 

[Icebird]

Vermont

 

[honeybee87]

Any more?

 

[Bonne Nuit]

Can any adcoms weigh in on why this might be asked?

 

[Bonne Nuit]

Lol who cares why, it was asked and I didn’t put anything in the field lol. Anyone know the generic email gonnif recommends for these situations? I think I’ve seen them before and they were succinct and to the point but not sure where I found them

I care why because I have a speeding ticket that I had to disclose on a few secondaries, and I'm wondering what admissions committees hope to understand by asking this question of me.

 

[honeybee87]

I care why because I have a speeding ticket that I had to disclose on a few secondaries, and I'm wondering what admissions committees hope to understand by asking this question of me.

Which secondaries?

 

[Bonne Nuit]

Cincy and UVM, so nothing new to report. But I am curious about how my speeding ticket will affect my application at these schools - or if it will be affected at all.

 

[honeybee87]

Should I email admissions

EDIT: how should I email admission? @OxenFoxen

 

[993444]

Lol who cares why, it was asked and I didn’t put anything in the field lol. Anyone know the generic email gonnif recommends for these situations? I think I’ve seen them before and they were succinct and to the point but not sure where I found them

They care because they want to assess instances of carelessness. Which is ironic because “forgetting” to put a traffic violation is careless in itself.

 

[Cornfed101]

They care because they want to assess instances of carelessness. Which is ironic because “forgetting” to put a traffic violation is careless in itself.

I think it’s pretty dumb though. I’ve definitely been following the flow of traffic (driving like 10 over) and been the unlucky one pulled over... obviously I wouldn’t word it like that in a secondary, but it does seem unnecessary in most cases

On the other hand they are probably just trying to catch everything

 

[993444]

I think it’s pretty dumb though. I’ve definitely been following the flow of traffic (driving like 10 over) and been the unlucky one pulled over... obviously I wouldn’t word it like that in a secondary, but it does seem unnecessary in most cases

On the other hand they are probably just trying to catch everything

I don’t think the point of the question is to ostracize you for messing up. Many people get pulled over once or twice for speeding or running a yellow.

I think the point of the question is to rather see if a pattern persists. If you’ve gotten 7 speeding tickets in the last 2 years, that’s a serious problem and likely indicative of reckless behavior. Also keep in mind that speeding tickets vary in severity based on circumstance and the issuing officer’s judgement.

I think they straight up ask you to disclose all violations so that they can decide for themselves if it’s a problem for them.

 

[Seihai]

Wanted to quote this from another thread in case someone came across this thread in the future (but go talk to your lawyer if you're not sure, because this isn't really something to play around with).

I'm not a lawyer. You should talk to a lawyer. This is just random advice from some random on the internet, and you should verify it. This information is not necessarily correct or valid for your specific situation, which your lawyer can better advise you on.

Traffic violations aren't a special "class" of offence - they can be misdemeanors or felonies just like any other crime. For example, a DUI is a traffic/moving violation just like speeding is, but they're not necessarily both the same "class" (DUIs are almost certainly felonies).

You need to look at your state and city laws. Some states consider speeding offences and other moving violations to be misdemeanors (in which case you absolutely must report them and not doing so could easily get your acceptance rescinded), while others consider them to be "infractions" (which are a lower level of crime below misdemeanors, which you may or may not need to report depending on the school).

No one here is a lawyer (presumably) and no one here can ethically advise you on whether your specific situation is considered a misdemeanor/felony. If you're worried about this, you need to talk to an actual lawyer and figure out what offences you've committed and what levels they were considered at.

An addendum to that:

If your "speeding ticket" rises to the level of a misdemeanor (some states like Ohio consider all tickets to be misdemeanors), then you need to report it on your primary (unless you meet one of the exclusion criteria mentioned in the AMCAS applicant guide) as well as mentioning it on all secondaries that ask if you've been convicted of a crime/misdemeanor/felony as appropriate.

Talk to a lawyer if you're not sure and you can't find your ticket online through your Clerk of Courts (or equivalent/state search options) and don't have any information on the ticket(s).

 

[993444]

Wanted to quote this from another thread in case someone came across this thread in the future (but go talk to your lawyer if you're not sure, because this isn't really something to play around with).

I'm not a lawyer. You should talk to a lawyer. This is just random advice from some random on the internet, and you should verify it. This information is not necessarily correct or valid for your specific situation, which your lawyer can better advise you on.





An addendum to that:

If your "speeding ticket" rises to the level of a misdemeanor (some states like Ohio consider all tickets to be misdemeanors), then you need to report it on your primary (unless you meet one of the exclusion criteria mentioned in the AMCAS applicant guide) as well as mentioning it on all secondaries that ask if you've been convicted of a crime/misdemeanor/felony as appropriate.

Talk to a lawyer if you're not sure and you can't find your ticket online through your Clerk of Courts (or equivalent/state search options) and don't have any information on the ticket(s).

Contrary to popular belief, a non-incidental DUI is NOT a felony if it’s a first offense (and in some states, even the second or third offense).

Ohio is certainly very strict on traffic laws. California, OTOH, is pretty lenient.

 

[Seihai]

Contrary to popular belief, a non-incidental DUI is NOT a felony if it’s a first offense (and in some states, even the second or third offense).

Ohio is certainly very strict on traffic laws. California, OTOH, is pretty lenient.

Interesting - if this source is right, then all states (and DC) consider a first-offence DUI with no other circumstances to be a misdemeanor (When is a DUI a Misdemeanor? - FindLaw). However, certain stipulations can raise it to a felony-level offence.

I would still absolutely go to your lawyer and check on any offenses/violations/tickets you may have paid/pled guilty/pled no contest to, since it's not something you want to risk not having disclosed when getting far enough into your application.

 

[Cornfed101]

Ohio is certainly very strict on traffic laws. California, OTOH, is pretty lenient.

Breaking traffic laws in California is expensive though

 

[honeybee87]

How about schools that require you to report INFRACTIONS? Any different ones besides the ones above?

 

[Cornfed101]

A one second google search found the following:

• Traffic violations (although sometimes these can rise to the level of misdemeanors and felonies)
• Littering
• Boating violations
• Fishing without a license
• Building permit violations
• Operating a business without a proper license
• Jaywalking
• Drinking in public
• Disturbing the peace
• Walking an unleashed dog
• Campsite violations

 

[honeybee87]

A one second google search found the following:

• Traffic violations (although sometimes these can rise to the level of misdemeanors and felonies)
• Littering
• Boating violations
• Fishing without a license
• Building permit violations
• Operating a business without a proper license
• Jaywalking
• Drinking in public
• Disturbing the peace
• Walking an unleashed dog
• Campsite violations

I meant any schools that use the language of infraction instead of a traffic violation. I have a LizzyM >75, I know what an infraction is

 

[Cornfed101]

How about schools that require you to report INFRACTIONS? Any different ones besides the ones above?

I’m not the one who used an unclear antecedent.

The schools listed above ask for infractions and specifically mention not to exclude traffic violations. I don’t know of any others.

 

[993444]

I have a LizzyM >75, I know what an infraction is

That’s just obnoxious.

 

[907914]

I meant any schools that use the language of infraction instead of a traffic violation. I have a LizzyM >75, I know what an infraction is

I have a WARs of 92 and I didn't realize that paying a ticket was admission of guilt. Intelligence and/or academic success does not preclude ignorance or lack of knowledge.

 

[jamaica jan sun princess]

That’s just obnoxious.

Didn't you know? A LizzyM >75 is like being a member of Mensa. A certified genius.