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I am stumped... I have a list of 8 schools that I am going to apply to but I am wondering if I should be looking at any others...
Here are the schools as of now:
UOP
UCSF
UCLA
USC
Michigan
Boston
UPenn
Nova
I have about a 3.6 GPA and 20AA and 21PAT for DAT scores, and I'm pretty well rounded and have dental experience. I was thinking of applying to NYU and Arizona and some others, but I dont know how many backups or other schools I should apply to, given that my top 8 are listed above. Do I have enough fall back schools on that list? Thank you, Mike
 
I think you have more than enough back-ups given that your stats are awesome.
 
stats are great dude...you'll be able to choose the one you want to goto! Basically if you add anymore to the list, add them because you would want to go there, not for backup....with your sttas, you dont need backups
 
If applying to Michigan, why not UDM too? Detroit and Ann Arbor are only 45 minutes apart? I applied to both. I've heard that UDM has an incredible clinical experience program. I felt I owed myself the opportunity to check it out, if invited to interview. That, and its class size is "smaller" (77). I wish to be an individual and not a number. My goal is to choose a quality program that offers a supportive environment! After all, I will be spending more time in school than with my family during the four-year program....U o P is not for me.
 
have you thought about Harvard? You chose BU, and I think your averages are very close to theirs (esp. with a 21 PAT, you're golden)
 
Thanks a lot! I haven't heard much about Detroit Mercy, and all I really know is I want a school with a strong clinical experience and a good location (I am used to sunny california, but wouldn't be opposed to east coast). I have looked on individual websites and I have the Official Guide to Dental Schools book, but I dont really know what to look for in terms of making my decision about what is most important to me about the schools. Do you have any suggestions? Also, it is now mid-July and I still dont have my apps in to AADSAS yet, is it very late if I am looking at places like UOP, UCSF, UPenn, Columbia and Harvard? I have everything done on the app but am just going over and over the essay, is it best to have a perfect essay or get the app in earlier? Thank you, Mike
 
yeah i would add Howard and Meharry to the list if i were you. i don't know about your 20 AA 21 PAt with a 3.6 gpa. only if your scores were a little better and your gpa was 5.0. just kidding man.

like everyone else have mentioned, just pick 2-3 schools that you would wanna go to and thats it.
 
Really, forget about Howard, a school which is rude and very unefficient. If you could search the posts in the forum for class of 2008, you could know why I say so.

I think Perfect just wanted you to add a backup because Howard accepted students with relatively low GPA and DAT scores.
 
grettlin2 said:
Really, forget about Howard, a school which is rude and very unefficient. If you could search the posts in the forum for class of 2008, you could know why I say so.

I think Perfect just wanted you to add a backup because Howard accepted students with relatively low GPA and DAT scores.

I think Perfect was kidding when he suggested Howard.
 
mikey13 said:
Thanks a lot! I haven't heard much about Detroit Mercy, and all I really know is I want a school with a strong clinical experience and a good location (I am used to sunny california, but wouldn't be opposed to east coast). I have looked on individual websites and I have the Official Guide to Dental Schools book, but I dont really know what to look for in terms of making my decision about what is most important to me about the schools. Do you have any suggestions? Also, it is now mid-July and I still dont have my apps in to AADSAS yet, is it very late if I am looking at places like UOP, UCSF, UPenn, Columbia and Harvard? I have everything done on the app but am just going over and over the essay, is it best to have a perfect essay or get the app in earlier? Thank you, Mike

UDM has a excellent clinical program, however, its location getto area near downtown Detroit, and the relocation of its dental school back to its main campus in 2 years time, which I suspect will be the primary focus of the faculty, you edcuation may suffer because of this. Current students are already paying for it caused by increase tuition to pay for the new (to-be-constructed) facilities, and soon, the administrators may not even care about you and just concentrate on the transition to the new school.
 
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WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO CRACK PAT???? YOU GOT 21, which is SO AWSOME.
 
Grrrrrrrrrrr Howard and Meharry. 😎

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NYU College of Dentistry 2008
 
The Musketeer said:
UDM has a excellent clinical program, however, its location getto area near downtown Detroit, and the relocation of its dental school back to its main campus in 2 years time, which I suspect will be the primary focus of the faculty, you edcuation may suffer because of this. Current students are already paying for it caused by increase tuition to pay for the new (to-be-constructed) facilities, and soon, the administrators may not even care about you and just concentrate on the transition to the new school.

I did a bit of research regarding these scathing rumors. It is true that UDM School of Dentistry is planning the construction of a new school that should be completed in 2007. Having recently built a brand new state-of-the-art dental clinic in 1997, their experience of what works can only be enhanced! This will be a top-tier school housing state-of-the-art classrooms, clinics, labs, offices, etc.

The School of Dentistry did not increase their tuition and fees to pay for the last dental clinic they built and will not do so for the future. Any increases are on par with percentage-rate increases that all state and private college/universities have imposed due to state and federal budget cuts. A major campaign for funding of the new school is underway and the University has a solid credit rating for bond issue.

The School of Dentistry treats a very large underprivileged, underserved population who, if it were not for the school being located where it is (within the city) would not receive treatment. This is truly a service to the metropolitan-Detroit community and a strength of the clinical experience program.

Your claims of moving closer to downtown a bit true. The school is presently located on the northwest border of the city. The 2007 location will be closer to downtown, but still a 20 minute commute.

The main campus is not located in "the ghetto" and as a matter of fact, it is located very close to some of Detroit's finest communities (Palmer Woods, Rosedale Park, ...) Major investors are planning the building of condos in the immediate vacinity and Barnes and Noble has committed to a major bookstore/coffee shop on or next to the campus by 2009. If it were the ghetto, why the revitalization? That would be foolish business!

As for the School's faculty? Historically, the dental school has had its own on-sight basic science faculty. They are not shared by medical or undergraduate programs. This did not change with their relocation from downtown Detroit (not a ghetto either) and is not anticipated to change with relocation to the university's main campus. Access to faculty by students remains strong and is reflected in the administration's commitment to the student-centered, supportive environment they strive to retain (I have a few friends currently enrolled).

I am seeking a dental program that will teach me to be the best clinician I can be. That, and I wish to treat diverse population of patients (Detroit and its surrounding communities are wealthy in a culturally diverse populations). It may cost a bit more, but the more prepared I am when I walk out of dental school, the more efficiently I can CARE for my patients. The investment will pay off. I will be a caring professional and along with my strong clinical skills , a successful professional.

The choice is yours but don't bash what you don't know. It's not professional. 😡

Good luck at Case! 🙂
 
I believe my sources are creditable as they come from current students who are in UDM dental schools (DS1 and DS2 respectively). I have also visited the school numerous times and compare to the location of majority of the dental schools, UDM is comparatively located in a ghetto area.

I am just stating what they have told me personally and I am just resonating their views about the current school environment. No doubt they have one of the best clinical program, but their concentration to create a better dental school may avert their attention away from the students.

Well, I do wish you success in your ambition to become a quality dental professional, wherever it may be...
 
To the OP: I agree with the others that said to apply to those that you want to go to. You have very good stats (duh) and if you can manage to walk and breathe at the same time, you will be accepted to a bunch on your list. It is a good list and my advice is to sit back, fill out all of the secondaries, and blow them away in the interview. Best of luck!
 
just wanted to thank you very much for the replies... Do you guys recommend that I take my time on the personal statement to make it perfect or should I just send in my stuff (the rest of the app is done)? Will schools not accept me because of a just average personal statement? I'm probably being way too anal about all this... but some of my friends just spent so much time on it, revised it a hundred times, and they are better writers than i am! I'm trippin... thanks, Mike
 
I recommend using a professional essay service. I came from a writing intensive major and am used to manipulating words to my benefit in order to persuade others and codify my argument. However, writing is always difficult, and writing about yourself can be especially troublesome. It is easy to come across as aloof, arrogant, silly, and defensive, or worse yet, an educated dolt. Your vision for your personal statement might not be reflected in your writing and that vision and voice in your head can blind you to some of the errors and negative aspects that are hiding in your work. Often times an author needs some critical distance from their work in order to objectively evaluate it and make the necessary corrections. For me, I wasn't able to gain that critical distance in time to send my application off in time. Thus, I ponied up the $100+ dollars and used Essayedge. I was astonished with the results and regard the money I spent as a well placed investment.

What I am getting at is do you consider yourself an 'average' applicant or someone the adcoms should take seriously? If you have made it this far you owe it to yourself to place the icing on that cake of an application. Don't send in a mediocre personal statement as that might be the one thing that keeps your application in the 'keep' pile. You've obviously commited a good deal of money, time, and personal effort to gain your above average stats - why cheat them in the end with an average personal statement? Numbers alone can only convey so much about an applicant and as such the personal statement can make your break you. In my opinion you should forward your essay to Essayedge.com, they will make a world of difference, hand it back in less than 48 hours, and then you can be on your way. That is my two cents my friend and I am confident that you will have a stellar admissions cycle. Enjoy the ride!
 
mikey13 said:
just wanted to thank you very much for the replies... Do you guys recommend that I take my time on the personal statement to make it perfect or should I just send in my stuff (the rest of the app is done)? Will schools not accept me because of a just average personal statement? I'm probably being way too anal about all this... but some of my friends just spent so much time on it, revised it a hundred times, and they are better writers than i am! I'm trippin... thanks, Mike

You SHOULD take your time on the personal statement. If you think about it, your personal statement will be their first opportunity to see a personal side of you (within all those scores and GPAs) and your desire to enter dentistry (and if you are not successful in gaining an interview, this will be your ONLY oppotunity to personally express yourself). Considering this, you should write something within your heart, and also something that has not been mentioned anywhere else in your application. Last year, it took me about 1 1/2 month to finish my personal statement (with about 8 revisions and two completely different statments generated). I delayed submitting my application for 1 month just to improve on my statement and let people proofread it.

So in summary, you should not be hasty in submitting your application if you feel your statment is not up to snuff.

Good Luck!
 
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