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Schools with Hippies???
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doctigger said:
georgetown integrates CAM and even has an MD/Masters program in it
I agree- this seems to be Georgetown's mantra.
Under that holy facade, it's just a whole lot of hippies.
Under that holy facade, it's just a whole lot of hippies.
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yeah i really liked this about georgetown, they are very open-minded about ways to take care of people and cure sicknesses. it's pretty refreshing in an age where people look to drugs for the answers to everything.
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Hi,
I am also interested in alt medicine modalities. I have used alt med for my own care and as an MD I plan on recommending some alt treatments to patients.
True, Georgetown got a big grant from the NIH to teach info on CAM in their regular classes. So, they are the "best".
I visited recently and here is the down side.
* the attitude was that they teach CAM "since your patients will use it and you should know what they are doing"
* a resident I spoke with said there is zero talk/use of CAM methods by the clinicians she works with and clinical care there does not offer many CAM options. One MD I interviewed with said he somewhat recently began sometimes-recommending chiropractic care but that he was taught the mantra that chiropractors were a hoax and could paralyze you.
* The Masters is in studying CAM methods using Western science methods to validate them. My opinion is that why study how to test CAM? Why not spend a year learning a method, like acupuncture, then you can practice and study it your whole career. This is so new a program; I'd want to check if anyone has graduated with a degree yet.
A good school for CAM is UCSF. Good luck getting in, but if you do the environment is very pro-CAM. The clinicians publicly use, speak about, and recommend alt med. There is an alt med center (Osher center) that offers classes to patients and clinicians. Many of the patients have already tried CAM and can feel open to speak about it to the doctors.
Anywhere in California is probably more CAM friendly that the East Coast. A Georgetown MD told me that a California school will have more integrated CAM friendly care than Georgetown in that patients and doctors will much more commonly use alt methods.
I have searched for info on CAM and medical schools a couple ways. I recommend visiting the NIH CAM website. They list all the grants given to medical schools and hospital to use/study CAM. Harvard, Duke and MANY other schools also have grants for CAM. Georgetown just advertises more about it. Id say that Harvard has an at least equally good program and I am sure many others.
I also visit the hospital associated with the schools website. I do a search for yoga, acupuncture, complementary medicine and so on. If I find a couple of doctors or classes listed I take that as a good sign.
Good luck
I am also interested in alt medicine modalities. I have used alt med for my own care and as an MD I plan on recommending some alt treatments to patients.
True, Georgetown got a big grant from the NIH to teach info on CAM in their regular classes. So, they are the "best".
I visited recently and here is the down side.
* the attitude was that they teach CAM "since your patients will use it and you should know what they are doing"
* a resident I spoke with said there is zero talk/use of CAM methods by the clinicians she works with and clinical care there does not offer many CAM options. One MD I interviewed with said he somewhat recently began sometimes-recommending chiropractic care but that he was taught the mantra that chiropractors were a hoax and could paralyze you.
* The Masters is in studying CAM methods using Western science methods to validate them. My opinion is that why study how to test CAM? Why not spend a year learning a method, like acupuncture, then you can practice and study it your whole career. This is so new a program; I'd want to check if anyone has graduated with a degree yet.
A good school for CAM is UCSF. Good luck getting in, but if you do the environment is very pro-CAM. The clinicians publicly use, speak about, and recommend alt med. There is an alt med center (Osher center) that offers classes to patients and clinicians. Many of the patients have already tried CAM and can feel open to speak about it to the doctors.
Anywhere in California is probably more CAM friendly that the East Coast. A Georgetown MD told me that a California school will have more integrated CAM friendly care than Georgetown in that patients and doctors will much more commonly use alt methods.
I have searched for info on CAM and medical schools a couple ways. I recommend visiting the NIH CAM website. They list all the grants given to medical schools and hospital to use/study CAM. Harvard, Duke and MANY other schools also have grants for CAM. Georgetown just advertises more about it. Id say that Harvard has an at least equally good program and I am sure many others.
I also visit the hospital associated with the schools website. I do a search for yoga, acupuncture, complementary medicine and so on. If I find a couple of doctors or classes listed I take that as a good sign.
Good luck
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There are people who have already graduated from Georgetown's CAM program.
I don't really know much about it, but it is definitely available here if you are interested. Personally I think that a lot of that stuff is a crock, but what do I know?
There is a professor here, Dr. Adriane Fugh-Berman, who is very involved with this stuff. I did a search just now, and apparently she has her own webpage:
http://fugh-berman.com/
She gave a speech to our SMP class one day. She was also involved with the NIH Office of alternative medicine. She would be a good person to talk to, if you're interested in CAM.
I don't really know much about it, but it is definitely available here if you are interested. Personally I think that a lot of that stuff is a crock, but what do I know?
There is a professor here, Dr. Adriane Fugh-Berman, who is very involved with this stuff. I did a search just now, and apparently she has her own webpage:
http://fugh-berman.com/
She gave a speech to our SMP class one day. She was also involved with the NIH Office of alternative medicine. She would be a good person to talk to, if you're interested in CAM.
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I think some of the osteopathic schools are pretty open and accomodating to those interested in alternative medicine. MSUCOM mentioned this specifically when I was there. I don't think they are teaching it directly but are willing to support student interest groups and will help find speakers on particular topics of interest.
I think it would be hard/unlikely for any school to integrate every possible facet of CAM because the licensing exams do not include alternative therapies, but something like you suggested, like an intensive course in acupuncture would be doable, I would think.
I think it would be hard/unlikely for any school to integrate every possible facet of CAM because the licensing exams do not include alternative therapies, but something like you suggested, like an intensive course in acupuncture would be doable, I would think.
