SDN WW Thread

[DVMDream]

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It has been a while since we had a wolf mayor, and even then wasn't it Rojo and he was converted? Just my two cents.

We have had a few games lately where the mayor was not only a wolf, but was never seered and made it to the end of the game to win. Generally, wolves don't want to be mayor, but it is not always true.

But, I have taken my vote off jdh for now. I find Haxx to be shady still.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Meh, most group abilities were revealed that day. I don't think group abilities minus one or two are as special as you are making them to be. Also, if he was told the group ability than what harm is there in admitting he knows it on thread. Obviously people already know that he was told the ability. So, really wouldn't make a difference at all.

Just my opinion, but I don't think you can determine villager by just that one statement. Though would be nice to know if he has a posting restriction as I will change my vote then.

Probably to haxx or STL since they are both sticking out like sore thumbs to me.

I think you misunderstood my point.
It is not about the group ability, it is that the vet group had been cleared. That was not done through a group ability.

The only people who knew about that at the time was the vet group and me.
If JDH knew it, then he is a villager with another source of information, or he is a wolf, and I have no idea how he got the info.
I don't think a wolf would reveal he knew something like that.

He just intimated what the info was.. it is what i would do to let other villagers who knew the info know that I knew the info. anyone else would be confused.

That is why I think he is a villager.

Happy to see Doc confirmed my FH theory… i don't mind having him checked out at some point, but I wouldn't lynch him now.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Sorry just got out of a class so playing catch up. Yes, feel free to look through the thread. I have not voted once. My vote follows SoV

If only @MrsSOV followed whatever I said IRL….. ….

 

[DVMDream]

I think you misunderstood my point.
It is not about the group ability, it is that the vet group had been cleared. That was not done through a group ability.

The only people who knew about that at the time was the vet group and me.
If JDH knew it, then he is a villager with another source of information, or he is a wolf, and I have no idea how he got the info.
I don't think a wolf would reveal he knew something like that.

He just intimated what the info was.. it is what i would do to let other villagers who knew the info know that I knew the info. anyone else would be confused.

That is why I think he is a villager.

Happy to see Doc confirmed my FH theory… i don't mind having him checked out at some point, but I wouldn't lynch him now.

Already changed my vote.

What you are saying he was saying and how I read it are two very different things. But I don't think it much matters at this point.

 

[DocEspana]

I have explained numerous times why lynching chaos is not an open and shut case. Please go back and read. I am not repeating myself. I would like you to challenge even one of the points I made. I have other people that agree with me too on this. It is absolutely ridiculous to lynch the chaos player and get no where closer to finding a wolf. Are you going to suggest we lynch her tomorrow too? What about the day after? When do we stop and decide to find wolves?

I read your reasons. And they seem like bull**** to me. Honestly, it is horrific disregard for how to actually win the game.

But it is consistent with you to completely disregard how to play the game and trust your gut in the face of an obvious move.

Yes, I'm slipping into actual DocE commentary mode, but I want to point out that I've read all of your comments very closely and the fact that I believe you truly think this way is the only reason I'm not very bothered by the way you've been voting. We just disagree strongly here.

 

[DocEspana]

haha I just reread my last comment. wow im harsh. I need to slow my roll. Sorry DVMD

 

[DVMDream]

I read your reasons. And they seem like bullcrap to me. Honestly, it is horrific disregard for how to actually win the game.

But it is consistent with you to completely disregard how to play the game and trust your gut in the face of an obvious move.

Yes, I'm slipping into actual DocE commentary mode, but I want to point out that I've read all of your comments very closely and the fact that I believe you truly think this way is the only reason I'm not very bothered by the way you've been voting. We just disagree strongly here.

You are definitely not playing like yourself.

Thank you. That is all I wanted to know.

Someone investigate DocE please.

He is normally 100% for lynching people, hell even lynching people randomly just to see what they will say. This is not his normal game play at all.

DocE, why settle for chaos? When you could put fire under peoples' feet and maybe get yourself a wolf instead?

You also have to agree that by lynching chaos again, you gain no insight as to how other people are playing. They are just going to bandwagon, villager and wolf alike.

So you gain zero info. You still have chaos at the end of the day and you are no closer to finding a wolf. Instead you could be working hard to light a few fires and see what happens. Yeah, you aren't playing like you. Maybe you are trying to be too much like your role?

 

[DVMDream]

haha I just reread my last comment. wow im harsh. I need to slow my roll. Sorry DVMD

😆

I actually took no offense.

 

[StartingoverVet]

You are definitely not playing like yourself.

Thank you. That is all I wanted to know.

Someone investigate DocE please.

He is normally 100% for lynching people, hell even lynching people randomly just to see what they will say. This is not his normal game play at all.

DocE, why settle for chaos? When you could put fire under peoples' feet and maybe get yourself a wolf instead?

You also have to agree that by lynching chaos again, you gain no insight as to how other people are playing. They are just going to bandwagon, villager and wolf alike.

So you gain zero info. You still have chaos at the end of the day and you are no closer to finding a wolf. Instead you could be working hard to light a few fires and see what happens. Yeah, you aren't playing like you. Maybe you are trying to be too much like your role?

No.. .Don't encourage him to go back to usual.
I am enjoying this persona.
Whydya have to ruin a good thing

 

[DVMDream]

No.. .Don't encourage him to go back to usual.
I am enjoying this persona.
Whydya have to ruin a good thing

Would you like him to be your little grasshopper again???? 😉

 

[StartingoverVet]

Would you like him to be your little grasshopper again???? 😉

Once in a game is enough.. that was exhausting.

 

[hedgiehog]

lynch kaydubs, rng don't have time to catch up right now

 

[Haxx]

What does this mean? What dilemma? I have attempted to talk to you.

That even if I told you my role and character outright, either it would be helpful to you if you were a wolf, or if you aren't you won't believe me...

 

[DocEspana]

You are definitely not playing like yourself.

Thank you. That is all I wanted to know.

Someone investigate DocE please.

He is normally 100% for lynching people, hell even lynching people randomly just to see what they will say. This is not his normal game play at all.

DocE, why settle for chaos? When you could put fire under peoples' feet and maybe get yourself a wolf instead?

You also have to agree that by lynching chaos again, you gain no insight as to how other people are playing. They are just going to bandwagon, villager and wolf alike.

So you gain zero info. You still have chaos at the end of the day and you are no closer to finding a wolf. Instead you could be working hard to light a few fires and see what happens. Yeah, you aren't playing like you. Maybe you are trying to be too much like your role?

change the word "chaos" to "the wolf we already seered" and you'll understand why I think this whole thing is absurd. Its like seering a wolf and having a strong suspicion of someone else being a wolf due to how they collaborated... and choosing to not lynch the wolf because you can gather more from futzing around with their compatriots than by killing them.

A chaos is a wolf is a chaos is a wolf. Any non-villager that can be killed, should be killed eventually. I'm totally fine with trying to agitate people when there isnt a already seered and wrapped up present sitting under the tree. I'm an dingus to people to force wolves out when there is no good lead... not when the lead is laughing at our hesitance,, right out in the open thread, to go after them.

Also feel free to seer me. Once I'm seered I'll basically be good until the endgame because no one is going to lynch the role I have.

 

[DocEspana]

change the word "chaos" to "the wolf we already seered" and you'll understand why I think this whole thing is absurd. Its like seering a wolf and having a strong suspicion of someone else being a wolf due to how they collaborated... and choosing to not lynch the wolf because you can gather more from futzing around with their compatriots than by killing them.

A chaos is a wolf is a chaos is a wolf. Any non-villager that can be killed, should be killed immediately. I'm totally fine with trying to agitate people when there isnt a already seered and wrapped up present sitting under the tree. I'm an dingus to people to force wolves out when there is no good lead... not when the lead is laughing at our hesitance,, right out in the open thread, to go after them.

Also feel free to seer me. Once I'm seered I'll basically be good until the endgame because no one is going to lynch the role I have.

see the bolded correction

 

[DocEspana]

anyway, as per popular request....

But what do I know, I've never played this game. Gee golly whiz. Didnt even know what those stars around peoples posts meant.

**************** I'm doing it right now, right? ****************

 

[StartingoverVet]

see the bolded correction

I don't agree.
We know we have to take out WTF at some point, but why not use her to our advantage. She has skills, we need skills.
She wants to survive, she helps us. She will have nothing to gain by screwing around but her own death.

She is like those walkers who were controlled in walking dead. They served a purpose and were shot when they were inconvenient.

 

[Chillbo Baggins]

anyway, as per popular request....

But what do I know, I've never played this game. Gee golly whiz. Didnt even know what those stars around peoples posts meant.

**************** I'm doing it right now, right? ****************

Are you even a part of this game? Get outta here!

And come back to my place.

 

[Philliab]

Are you even a part of this game? Get outta here!

And come back to my place.

There is not enough therapy to help you with this!

 

[Escalla]

February 9th!!!

 

[DocEspana]

I don't agree.
We know we have to take out WTF at some point, but why not use her to our advantage. She has skills, we need skills.
She wants to survive, she helps us. She will have nothing to gain by screwing around but her own death.

She is like those walkers who were controlled in walking dead. They served a purpose and were shot when they were inconvenient.

I love the walking dead!

But doesnt that analogy only work if you take the jaws and hands off of them, not if you leave the normally bloodthirsty zombie with all of its utilities intact and just trust that it is so embarassed by the whole thing that it will fight its urges to nibble on your when your back is turned and behave before you decide to decapitate it later?

 

[MrsSOV]

If only @MrsSOV followed whatever I said IRL….. ….

😆

 

[DocEspana]

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[Haxx]

Do we have an updated lynch count? I'm like, really bad at math, because I totally stick to shopping and stuff.

 

[Chillbo Baggins]

There is not enough therapy to help you with this!

What makes you think I need help? I LOVE MEN.

 

[Philliab]

What makes you think I need help? I LOVE MEN.

The fact that you hit on DocE shows that you need help. 😱 😛

 

[Abnerrs]

I don't agree.
We know we have to take out WTF at some point, but why not use her to our advantage. She has skills, we need skills.
She wants to survive, she helps us. She will have nothing to gain by screwing around but her own death.

She is like those walkers who were controlled in walking dead. They served a purpose and were shot when they were inconvenient.

Except that WTF is insanely smart and knows how to play people. She already had me half believing she wasn't chaos yesterday. And she's in it for WTF not for villagers.

I'm sold.

******lynch WTF*******

I'll be in path lab. That's my final decision Regis.

 

[StartingoverVet]

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[thedrjojo]

Official Lynch Tally:

WTF - 7 (doce, dwin, ffm, WS, Lupin, TRH, abney)
LIS - 1 (devyn)
Chillboi - 1 (JDH)
SOV - 0 ()
Lissarae - 0 ()
Devyn - 1 (Z)
JDH - 6 (dyachei, kaydubs, X, TV, Chillbo, Haxx)
Hedgie – 1 (Y)
WS - 1 (Lissa)
FFM - 2 (SOV, STL)
Haxx - 4 (WTF, dvmd, sns, MrsSOV)
Kaydubs - 1 (hedgie)

90 minutes bitches

 

[thedrjojo]

 

[Haxx]

Just FYI because I almost missed it, we have a vote from X now as well for jdh

 

[MrsSOV]

Lynch WTF for now...

 

[DVMDream]

change the word "chaos" to "the wolf we already seered" and you'll understand why I think this whole thing is absurd. Its like seering a wolf and having a strong suspicion of someone else being a wolf due to how they collaborated... and choosing to not lynch the wolf because you can gather more from futzing around with their compatriots than by killing them.

A chaos is a wolf is a chaos is a wolf. Any non-villager that can be killed, should be killed eventually. I'm totally fine with trying to agitate people when there isnt a already seered and wrapped up present sitting under the tree. I'm an dingus to people to force wolves out when there is no good lead... not when the lead is laughing at our hesitance,, right out in the open thread, to go after them.

Also feel free to seer me. Once I'm seered I'll basically be good until the endgame because no one is going to lynch the role I have.

Sure, if chaos = wolf then I would agree.

But chaos does NOT equal wolf.

Chaos can't KILL villagers at night. So it is unfounded to lynch a player that can NOT harm us. She can't harm us. It is like lynching a declawed, partially defanged tiger.

 

[dyachei]

Sure, if chaos = wolf then I would agree.

But chaos does NOT equal wolf.

Chaos can't KILL villagers at night. So it is unfounded to lynch a player that can NOT harm us. She can't harm us. It is like lynching a declawed, partially defanged tiger.

totally read that as partially deranged tiger.

 

[MrsSOV]

unlynch WTF
lynch Haxx

 

[Philliab]

Chaos can't KILL villagers at night. So it is unfounded to lynch a player that can NOT harm us. She can't harm us. It is like lynching a declawed, partially defanged tiger.

And actually...DocE's chaos character last game was a huge PITA for the wolves so maybe it's not so bad to keep her around.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Hey STL (@SummerTheLynx )… who do you want to lynch. I feel obligated to at least take your opinion into consideration…..
state an opinion…. women/wives won the right to have opinions and vote a century ago

 

[DocEspana]

And actually...DocE's chaos character last game was a huge PITA for the wolves so maybe it's not so bad to keep her around.

I wasnt chaos. I was neutral. Unkillable. And I actually tried to help the wolves but they literally blocked me every other round (when I tried to help them) and eventually I got frustrated with them and decided to just off them all.

 

[thedrjojo]

 

[DocEspana]

I wasnt chaos. I was neutral. Unkillable. And I actually tried to help the wolves but they literally blocked me every other round (when I tried to help them) and eventually I got frustrated with them and decided to just off them all.

The distinction of "playing for myself" vs "playing for no one" is important.

 

[DVMDream]

I wasnt chaos. I was neutral. Unkillable. And I actually tried to help the wolves but they literally blocked me every other round (when I tried to help them) and eventually I got frustrated with them and decided to just off them all.

I already told you that your hatred of wolves that game was unfounded. The villagers blocked you just as much and started off as the ones blocking you.

You sided with the wrong group.

 

[StartingoverVet]

I wasnt chaos. I was neutral. Unkillable. And I actually tried to help the wolves but they literally blocked me every other round (when I tried to help them) and eventually I got frustrated with them and decided to just off them all.

OT: but this myth was busted in that game thread by the mods.
Wolves blocked you twice.
Villagers blocked you twice.
You were unblocked the rest of the game.

 

[thedrjojo]

 

[DocEspana]

I already told you that your hatred of wolves that game was unfounded. The villagers blocked you just as much and started off as the ones blocking you.

You sided with the wrong group.

haha. I know that *now*. But not then. Also not until you said it right now. Didnt read much of the post-game stuff. 😛

 

[StartingoverVet]

ninja-ed

 

[MrsSOV]

Hey STL (@SummerTheLynx )… who do you want to lynch. I feel obligated to at least take your opinion into consideration…..
state an opinion…. women/wives won the right to have opinions and vote a century ago

Hey SOV, why don't ya follow my vote? 😉

 

[DVMDream]

haha. I know that *now*. But not then. Also not until you said it right now. Didnt read much of the post-game stuff. 😛

I quoted you and you didn't read. 😡

 

[Dwindlin]

Wow, what a charlie foxtrot. Please for the love of all that is holy someone who is not WTF seer me tonight. This way we can clear up this message bull**** and move on. I think I'm keeping my vote. WTF is chaos, and I'm not sold on jdh AT ALL, just did not get a wolf vibe from him while he was in The Lounge. I'm still not sure about WS, maybe she is getting played, I don't know, she seemed to eager to get that message out and I would expect more scrutiny from her. For what its worth I'm not thrilled about lynching WTF either, since I do agree chaos can at times be useful, but I am in agreement with DocE that in the absence of anything else I would rather not lynch a random villager when we have a known non-villager.

 

[wolfspeaker]

as far as items, we know we have the high wood and the census. anyone want to chime in about any others (only if you had them, not if you have them now - no reason to make yourself a target).

2 items seems kind of small for a game of this size.

*sigh* READ! I already said there are Liars Dice floating around. In the same post I talked about the Census.

I have also learned there are Pieces of Satellite floating around.

why the flying **** would we assume that?

Because most Chaos people DO have a lynch escape as part of their role. C'mon DocE, you know that.

Sure, if chaos = wolf then I would agree.

But chaos does NOT equal wolf.

Chaos can't KILL villagers at night. So it is unfounded to lynch a player that can NOT harm us. She can't harm us. It is like lynching a declawed, partially defanged tiger.

Do you know this for a fact? I seem to remember a game where Chaos could in fact kill 1 time at night.

 

[thedrjojo]