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anyone have any advice tips on how to pay back student loans. im a recent grad (about 3 years back). my student loans are killing me. im paying about 1100 a month in student loans. my school was kinda expensive thus the high loan payment. school was invaluable it got me where i am today but how do you pay this much money back? i want to get on my feet and start investing my money but i need to knock down my loans first. anybody out there met with an accountant who has set you straight or given advice? some of the older guys who have gone thru this please chime in. thank you.
 
What's your principle, interest & term?

You might be able to change one of those by using another financial instrument....
 
anyone have any advice tips on how to pay back student loans. im a recent grad (about 3 years back). my student loans are killing me. im paying about 1100 a month in student loans. my school was kinda expensive thus the high loan payment. school was invaluable it got me where i am today but how do you pay this much money back? i want to get on my feet and start investing my money but i need to knock down my loans first. anybody out there met with an accountant who has set you straight or given advice? some of the older guys who have gone thru this please chime in. thank you.

I pay about the same amount, loan for 30 years.
I agree, it is hard to get started in life with so much debt.
Have you consolidated your loans? I went with Nelnet.
The financial aid people in school told us not to pay off federal consolidation loans early since the interest is so low (~3%). Save for a house, invest max in 401k..something that will give you a return in the future.

Other than that, work a bunch of OT, use all of your tax return toward loans?
 
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my situation is kinda different than most. my school was not acredited until we graduated. we were the first class through. so we could not take any 'federal' student loans out. all my loans were private loans through a private bank. my school was and still is kinda expensive. my intrest rate is hovering around 8%. i have tried to refinance a few times but a) no one wants to touch a private loan or b) the refinance fees are not worth the few tenths of a percent i can save by refinancing. right now i have 2 jobs to help make ends meet. i figured the second job would go to my student loans but right now they are going to medical bills. kids are so dang expensive. in a few months i should be in the free and clear of medical bills (knock on wood) i just bought i a book called automatic millionaire to teach me how to save. we'll see how that goes. i do have a house and i had hoped at one time that it would pay my loans off. i figured id buy low and sell high. at the time i bought my house the market here was going up about 5 to 6% a month. its since taken a dump. so my h0use is probally only worth 1o to 15 thousand more now than when i bought it a year ago. i know there is no EASY way to pay loans off. but there has to be an EASIER way. i have not started a 401k yet but im determined to this year.
 
An old doc told me once when he gave me my paycheck.
Its not how much you make its how much you spend.
The more you make the more you spend.
 
my situation is kinda different than most. my school was not acredited until we graduated. we were the first class through. so we could not take any 'federal' student loans out. all my loans were private loans through a private bank. my school was and still is kinda expensive. my intrest rate is hovering around 8%. i have tried to refinance a few times but a) no one wants to touch a private loan or b) the refinance fees are not worth the few tenths of a percent i can save by refinancing. right now i have 2 jobs to help make ends meet. i figured the second job would go to my student loans but right now they are going to medical bills. kids are so dang expensive. in a few months i should be in the free and clear of medical bills (knock on wood) i just bought i a book called automatic millionaire to teach me how to save. we'll see how that goes. i do have a house and i had hoped at one time that it would pay my loans off. i figured id buy low and sell high. at the time i bought my house the market here was going up about 5 to 6% a month. its since taken a dump. so my h0use is probally only worth 1o to 15 thousand more now than when i bought it a year ago. i know there is no EASY way to pay loans off. but there has to be an EASIER way. i have not started a 401k yet but im determined to this year.

So....you've got a tough situation for sure! But...you didn't say the term? 8% (I assume variable) for how long? Are you accelerating or is this what is required for a 20 to 30 yr term?

You have kids (with medical bills🙂 ) - have you got a wife? If so...have you talked about her taking a job as well? If she's got her own career, it may not be possible, depending on what your kids ages are since someone has to be there at night...but, if they are pre-school age, she might be able to work there or if they are school age, she might be able to work within the school district - as an aide, clerk, even if she's not a teacher. She'd be out when they're in school & home when they're home.

What's the benefit? Well...you might get dual health insurance. You also might be able to have dual retirements ultimately.

That won't help the loan situation. But, some other things to think about - you may not be able to afford the house (no - I'm not advocating selling at a loss!). Just perhaps, now at the beginning of the year, you might need to reevaluate all your expenses. A house can be helpful in the long run - but, in the short term - it eats up a lot of money. There is always something that goes wrong or needs doing - and you working two jobs doesn't give you a lot of time to do them yourself.

However, when you bought the house - did you get a loan that had a loan equity feature? If you did, you might be able to use that to pay down some of the private loan. A loan secured by something - real property, car, whatever, will always have a lower rate than an unsecured loan. However, you don't want to risk your housing.....but if you run into default on a loan - they'll access your house anyway.

Its easy to start that 401K - just have it taken out of your paycheck automatically. Start with a low amount - $5 per pay period. Trust me - you won't miss it & it will begin mounting slowly.

Finally, as another poster said....evaluate ALL your expenses. I know its tough - particularly with kids - but...really sometimes you have to do the right thing & it won't make the kids happy. Perhaps this year they can't play little league or go to DisneyWorld...just examples & not meant to be a criticisim (sp?) you may not do these things. But...I do know how expensive kids are - I've raised (still raising??😳 - will it ever end??) two of my own. Look at everything - dinners out, trips to grandparents (have them come to you), gym memberships, etc.

Best of luck - I hope 2007 is a better year!!!
 
anyone have any advice tips on how to pay back student loans. im a recent grad (about 3 years back). my student loans are killing me. im paying about 1100 a month in student loans. my school was kinda expensive thus the high loan payment. school was invaluable it got me where i am today but how do you pay this much money back? i want to get on my feet and start investing my money but i need to knock down my loans first. anybody out there met with an accountant who has set you straight or given advice? some of the older guys who have gone thru this please chime in. thank you.

My advice would be to adjust your lifestyle. If you make $30K/yr and have a loan burden of $13K/yr, yes I can see the strife. However, if you are making $100K/yr then 13% isn't so bad.
 
My advice would be to adjust your lifestyle. If you make $30K/yr and have a loan burden of $13K/yr, yes I can see the strife. However, if you are making $100K/yr then 13% isn't so bad.

This brings to mind a conversation I had with a pharmacist I work with. She was complaining about how much her basic living expenses were per month. My husband and I have two kids, less income than she does, and are in far better financial shape. Well, it turns out that a lot of her "basic" living expenses are things we don't pay for at all, or certainly a lot less. So, ask yourself - are you paying out money every month for cable? Do you have all the HBO/Showtime/etc. or do you just have the basic? How about your cell phones? Could you switch over to a prepaid plan so you only spend for what you use? Do you have an alarm system for your house - could you cut how much you pay for that? How about your car issues - are you driving some brand new awesome car with a 5 year note, or could you do with something cheaper so you didn't have a car payment? Do you have expensive hobbies, or do you and the wife spend a lot of money on expensive entertainment? Does your wife spend $400 a pop on hair issues (like the pharmacist I work with)? Do you pay fees to a gym?

Not to say that it's bad to spend on any of the above, but we live in such a technological and consumer society now that people tend to think they have to have all these things, when in actuality you could live just fine without the lastest and greatest for a few years until you get the loans under control.
 
You pay it back like you're suppose to. My payment in the beginning was $830 per month and my first pharmacy job in 1995 paid $19.75 per hour.😎 You make it a priority.
 
You pay it back like you're suppose to. My payment in the beginning was $830 per month and my first pharmacy job in 1995 paid $19.75 per hour.😎 You make it a priority.

i deffianty have to pay it back. if i default on my student loans the board of pharmacy will revoke my license. that and i am an honest person. im not looking for a easy way out. i know that there is no such thing. and i know that everyone's situation is diffrent and what works for you might not work for me. but i do appreciate the suggestions.
 
My advice would be to live on half of your salary and pay the rest toward student loans. I can hear the groan already, but half salary is more than you were living on while you were in school. Knock the loans out and then double your salary - it shouldn't take that long. You'll save money in the long run by not paying tens of thousands in interest. Stay away from electronics stores, car dealerships and credit cards and put everything towards the student loans.
 
My advice would be to live on half of your salary and pay the rest toward student loans. I can hear the groan already, but half salary is more than you were living on while you were in school. Knock the loans out and then double your salary - it shouldn't take that long. You'll save money in the long run by not paying tens of thousands in interest. Stay away from electronics stores, car dealerships and credit cards and put everything towards the student loans.

That's my plan exactly. Although, I am sure it is easier said than done 🙂
 
i deffianty have to pay it back. if i default on my student loans the board of pharmacy will revoke my license. that and i am an honest person. im not looking for a easy way out. i know that there is no such thing. and i know that everyone's situation is diffrent and what works for you might not work for me. but i do appreciate the suggestions.

Can people confirm this: defaulting on student loans can get your license revoked? This is unbelievable.
 
Can people confirm this: defaulting on student loans can get your license revoked? This is unbelievable.

yes... some states have wierd laws. Heck on my student loans. (i took out loans from 2 diffrent lenders) one if i die my loans are forgiven they have a life insurance policy built in... the other if i die i still owe them my tuition money. even in death you can not escape your studen loans.
 
yes... some states have wierd laws. Heck on my student loans. (i took out loans from 2 diffrent lenders) one if i die my loans are forgiven they have a life insurance policy built in... the other if i die i still owe them my tuition money. even in death you can not escape your studen loans.

Why does this sound like my PChem teachers shorthand for the laws of thermodynamics?

1. You will never win.
2. The best you can do is break even
3. You can't really even break even.
 
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yes... some states have wierd laws. Heck on my student loans. (i took out loans from 2 diffrent lenders) one if i die my loans are forgiven they have a life insurance policy built in... the other if i die i still owe them my tuition money. even in death you can not escape your studen loans.

Who told you that, your loan shark? And if u dont pay, they what, sell your grave? what if that is not enough? They will put your bones in a debt-jail?

That life insurance on loans is wasted money, unless they were selling you the whole package.

I really dont understand all this fuss about living in misery and paying off loans first. The inflation alone is a way higher than most interests on your loans, to start with.
Just to cheer you up, I have a relative who didnt pay a penny on those loans for at least 6 years. He got recently a very tip-top state job , and he was chosed out of over 200 aplicants, in the very same state he was making his studies. So, his debt is the same amount as 6 years ago, while dollar lost 50-60% of its strength during the same time. Once in 6 months he gets a letter, which says they will send him an angry one if he doesnt pay. :laugh:

Finally you can always move abroad if you want, no need to be a slave.
 
Who told you that, your loan shark? And if u dont pay, they what, sell your grave? what if that is not enough? They will put your bones in a debt-jail?

That life insurance on loans is wasted money, unless they were selling you the whole package.

I really dont understand all this fuss about living in misery and paying off loans first. The inflation alone is a way higher than most interests on your loans, to start with.
Just to cheer you up, I have a relative who didnt pay a penny on those loans for at least 6 years. He got recently a very tip-top state job , and he was chosed out of over 200 aplicants, in the very same state he was making his studies. So, his debt is the same amount as 6 years ago, while dollar lost 50-60% of its strength during the same time. Once in 6 months he gets a letter, which says they will send him an angry one if he doesnt pay. :laugh:

Finally you can always move abroad if you want, no need to be a slave.

The dollar lost 60% of its strength in 6 years, wow, i should invest against the US dollar and be rich... Not paying can screw up your credit and financial loan power, but again there is ways to extend the loan and paying towards it, i didnt pay a penny on my undergrad loans for 4 years eventhough i wasnt in school. But you cant run away from your debt, eventually you will have to pay them off. But again, it doesnt mean they have to consume the rest of your life, consider it to be a mortgage payment with no house to show for, but a nice degree that no one can foreclose on.
 
But you cant run away from your debt, eventually you will have to pay them off.

Eventually-- may be. If one feels like it. A friend of mine ended up spending more on bustrip to the bank than on the mortgage itself. He was still doing it for a year, for fun, then paid it all off with a few overtime hours.
 
Who told you that, your loan shark? And if u dont pay, they what, sell your grave? what if that is not enough? They will put your bones in a debt-jail?

That life insurance on loans is wasted money, unless they were selling you the whole package.

I really dont understand all this fuss about living in misery and paying off loans first. The inflation alone is a way higher than most interests on your loans, to start with.
Just to cheer you up, I have a relative who didnt pay a penny on those loans for at least 6 years. He got recently a very tip-top state job , and he was chosed out of over 200 aplicants, in the very same state he was making his studies. So, his debt is the same amount as 6 years ago, while dollar lost 50-60% of its strength during the same time. Once in 6 months he gets a letter, which says they will send him an angry one if he doesnt pay. :laugh:

Finally you can always move abroad if you want, no need to be a slave.

don't be a slave....thats true. consolidate them and do what you can. don't forget to set aside money for investments.

but not pay at all? not a good idea. when you get married and want to build/buy a house you'll be F'ed. banks don't like to loan money to people that don't pay it back.
 
The one loan you do not want to default on is a student loan. Your buddy will have a big fat garnishment in a couple of years and he'll be lucky if they leave him enough to live on.
 
The one loan you do not want to default on is a student loan. Your buddy will have a big fat garnishment in a couple of years and he'll be lucky if they leave him enough to live on.


first , why do they waite for 6 years already;
secondly, a dollar-2007 doesnt buy more than a fraction of dollar-2000, let alone dollar-2009
 
Who told you that, your loan shark? And if u dont pay, they what, sell your grave? what if that is not enough? They will put your bones in a debt-jail?

That life insurance on loans is wasted money, unless they were selling you the whole package.

I really dont understand all this fuss about living in misery and paying off loans first. The inflation alone is a way higher than most interests on your loans, to start with.
Just to cheer you up, I have a relative who didnt pay a penny on those loans for at least 6 years. He got recently a very tip-top state job , and he was chosed out of over 200 aplicants, in the very same state he was making his studies. So, his debt is the same amount as 6 years ago, while dollar lost 50-60% of its strength during the same time. Once in 6 months he gets a letter, which says they will send him an angry one if he doesnt pay. :laugh:

Finally you can always move abroad if you want, no need to be a slave.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but really.....this is a debt you agreed to with all due honesty.

To even consider moving out of the country to avoid loan payment, IMO, is disprespectful - particularly to students since this money is the same money which is lent to student, just like you to go to school.

Finally, I'm again sorry....but I wouldn't take any financial advice from someone who cannot keep their tenses straight in a sentence (alright - my own personal "thing") & can even consider that the dollar has lost or gained 50% in the last 6 years - or even any 6 years in recent US financial history.

Now..there is someone who is going to come on here to prove me wrong, I'm sure...but if any of you EVER must consider an ethics question - this is IT!

Pay back your student loan!!!!!! Someone trusted enough in you to finance your education - pay it back!
 
Is it better to take the 10-yr option and get it done with, or it would be wiser to take the 30-yr option and invest the money instead?
 
even in death you can not escape your studen loans.


Unless the laws changed recently, this is not true, from my experience. My dad passed away 5 years ago with his own student loans plus parent loans for me and my three siblings. That money was forgiven and did not have to be paid back.
 
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but really.....this is a debt you agreed to with all due honesty.

To even consider moving out of the country to avoid loan payment, IMO, is disprespectful - particularly to students since this money is the same money which is lent to student, just like you to go to school.

Sorry, I dont see how it is disrespectful to students. Personally, I dont owe a quarter to anyone, and wouldnt borrow a penny without knowing when I can return it, from a person but spare me from this "belove thy userer" talkings. I dont have a slightest respect for usery and think that they should be ..... in every natural and unnatural way. Just my opinion, I dont mean to be disrespectful, either.

Finally, I'm again sorry....but I wouldn't take any financial advice from someone who cannot keep their tenses straight in a sentence (alright - my own personal "thing") & can even consider that the dollar has lost or gained 50% in the last 6 years - or even any 6 years in recent US financial history.

Well, first, English is my fourth language, so cut me a slack.
Secondly, you really wasnt into economics much for the last 6 years, for sure.Otherwise you should have noticed, how much less of everything you can buy for a dollar. Practically everything went up hundreds and hundreds of%, - real estate worldwide, grains, metals, oil, nat gas, sugar-- you name it. In 2000 you could buy a barrel of oil for $11, can you now? In 2000, silver was at $4.5 an ounce, now it is 13-15. Nickel was 5000 per ton- now $35000. Lead used to be $400 now its almost 2000, there is no metal which didnt at least tripple, exept for gold and platinum. Well but if you measure it by Starbucks and Bigmacs you may stay happy and secure with US paper.. Just try not to build a house..


Now..there is someone who is going to come on here to prove me wrong, I'm sure...but if any of you EVER must consider an ethics question - this is IT!

Pay back your student loan!!!!!! Someone trusted enough in you to finance your education - pay it back!

Obey, consume, conform too. Dont think for yourself, everything is decided for you already. Use your head the right way-- put burgers in it.
 
Sorry, I dont see how it is disrespectful to students. Personally, I dont owe a quarter to anyone, and wouldnt borrow a penny without knowing when I can return it, from a person but spare me from this "belove thy userer" talkings. I dont have a slightest respect for usery and think that they should be ..... in every natural and unnatural way. Just my opinion, I dont mean to be disrespectful, either.



Well, first, English is my fourth language, so cut me a slack.
Secondly, you really wasnt into economics much for the last 6 years, for sure.Otherwise you should have noticed, how much less of everything you can buy for a dollar. Practically everything went up hundreds and hundreds of%, - real estate worldwide, grains, metals, oil, nat gas, sugar-- you name it. In 2000 you could buy a barrel of oil for $11, can you now? In 2000, silver was at $4.5 an ounce, now it is 13-15. Nickel was 5000 per ton- now $35000. Lead used to be $400 now its almost 2000, there is no metal which didnt at least tripple, exept for gold and platinum. Well but if you measure it by Starbucks and Bigmacs you may stay happy and secure with US paper.. Just try not to build a house..




Obey, consume, conform too. Dont think for yourself, everything is decided for you already. Use your head the right way-- put burgers in it.

What does any of that diatribe have to do with whether it's unethical to not repay student loans? According to you, it's unethical to accept a student loan. So what's your point?

Your belief system prohibits what you call "usery". Student loans can not, by secular Western standards, be considered usary with is the charging of
excessive rates of interest for loans. Try financing a house and getting such low rates of interest as are charged for government student aid. But, you don't borrow money - so, again, what's your beef?

Economics dictates that limited resources will always become more expensive as they are consumed. That's a bigger issue in the items you listed than the time value of money. But, this thread isn't about Economics 101.