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I am a week away from getting my step 2 CS results, and am very worried. Does anyone have stories of a horrible performance, but still passed? I'm trying to calm myself down as best as I can this upcoming week. Thanks for any replies I get, and thanks for the support lately.
 
I took CS months ago and thought I did really REALLY bad but I got a really good score. You'll be fine. i think 99.99% pass.
 
I am a week away from getting my step 2 CS results, and am very worried. Does anyone have stories of a horrible performance, but still passed? I'm trying to calm myself down as best as I can this upcoming week. Thanks for any replies I get, and thanks for the support lately.

So I am totally feeling the same way as you! I am so scared right now and trying to forget about it!
 
I get mine in a week too and am convinced I failed.the worst part is waiting since June first when I took it and knowing if I did fail it will be on eras
 
I get mine in a week too and am convinced I failed.the worst part is waiting since June first when I took it and knowing if I did fail it will be on eras

Yes, same here. I wasn't aware of the change in scoring where they fail more people intentionally until after I took it, and I took it at Philly, and if I fail, I will essentially have zero percent chance of matching into the specialty I want. Plus I get the results back right before I take CK. I'm almost thinking I won't look until I take CK so if it's a failure I don't blow CK from being too upset about it.
 
Yes, same here. I wasn't aware of the change in scoring where they fail more people intentionally until after I took it, and I took it at Philly, and if I fail, I will essentially have zero percent chance of matching into the specialty I want. Plus I get the results back right before I take CK. I'm almost thinking I won't look until I take CK so if it's a failure I don't blow CK from being too upset about it.

Man I'm in the same boat with you lol I was debating whether i should even look at it or not cause i know if i did bad I'd probably just postpone CK and go for 2015 instead. I know I didnt do 3 ddx for a few of them and some people have said that some dont require three but I dont know and my physical exam was kind of half ass but I tried to be as polite and friendly as possible lol :scared::scared: i ****ed up one pts name though off the bat and I knew she was going to be a problem for the rest of it lol which of course she was lol. Damn philly lol and one dude looked straight up like this guy who mugged me when I was in philly before lol. But again everyone says this exam is just testing you on english and believe me I've worked with so many residents who's english was horrific that I questioned how the hell they passed CS?!
 
you are not being tested on how you speak english. I hope all of you pass! Good luck!!!

Yes you are. You are being tested on whether you can communicate efficiently in engilsh. This does not mean having an accent = horrific in english. It means, does the patient understand you?

Obviously you can't bomb the diagnosis part on every patient as well, but I believe the rule of "speak proper english, be personable, and wash your damn hands" is still a surefire way to pass CS.
 
Your statement is outdated unfortunately. Everything you said was true in 2012. This exam is horrible this year. 6% of American students will fail, and 40% of international students will fail. They want much more in order to pass.
 
Your statement is outdated unfortunately. Everything you said was true in 2012. This exam is horrible this year. 6% of American students will fail, and 40% of international students will fail. They want much more in order to pass.

These posts just scare people, and even worries me when I read it, but I have to stick to facts and common sense.. This is BS regarding 40% international students will fail. I am an IMG and all the people i know who took the exam recently passed it, and they are all IMGs granted they are US IMGs or from Canada. Regardless ,if you can take a history in English, organize your thoughts, put a resonable differential diagnosis, wash hands, can say thank you and please showing good manners, have a personality, show empathy to the patient when needed, ie: your father died: say sorry to hear Its hard losing a parent, and type fast enough, you will have a great chance to pass this exam. I see too many people trying to memorize cases, memorize every scenario, esp the non US IMG thinking this is a purely knowledge test. I am sure many of you have gone to the doctors offices here in the USA and see the typical physical examinations being done, which are mostly bare bone, very basic, and focused PEs. Don't think you have to do all these full exams for every organ system for every case as a 4th year medical student and have it perfect, not to mention you are not GIVEN enough time to even do that. Common sense guys... lets use... and not get ourself worried over things that are unreasonable.....
 
Yes you are. You are being tested on whether you can communicate efficiently in engilsh. This does not mean having an accent = horrific in english. It means, does the patient understand you?

Obviously you can't bomb the diagnosis part on every patient as well, but I believe the rule of "speak proper english, be personable, and wash your damn hands" is still a surefire way to pass CS.

That is one of the components, yes. You can have an accent, and still pass the SEP part. You just can't say statements that make no sense. That's all. Everyone usually gets a star all the way to the right in this component.

Be personable and wash your hands? ummm...what?
 
"speak proper english, be personable, and wash your damn hands"- you obv didn't take this exam in 2013. lol
 
These posts just scare people, and even worries me when I read it, but I have to stick to facts and common sense.. This is BS regarding 40% international students will fail. I am an IMG and all the people i know who took the exam recently passed it, and they are all IMGs granted they are US IMGs or from Canada. Regardless ,if you can take a history in English, organize your thoughts, put a resonable differential diagnosis, wash hands, can say thank you and please showing good manners, have a personality, show empathy to the patient when needed, ie: your father died: say sorry to hear Its hard losing a parent, and type fast enough, you will have a great chance to pass this exam. I see too many people trying to memorize cases, memorize every scenario, esp the non US IMG thinking this is a purely knowledge test. I am sure many of you have gone to the doctors offices here in the USA and see the typical physical examinations being done, which are mostly bare bone, very basic, and focused PEs. Don't think you have to do all these full exams for every organ system for every case as a 4th year medical student and have it perfect, not to mention you are not GIVEN enough time to even do that. Common sense guys... lets use... and not get ourself worried over things that are unreasonable.....

There is nothing wrong in being extra cautious about this exam. There are definitely a lot more people failing this exam this year compared to the previous years. I took it this year and am extremely glad to be done with it. My friend and I read through First Aid a couple of times and practiced all the cases. We both took the exam on the same day, and fortunately passed. I have classmates that said they studied the same way and unfortunately didn't pass.

Good luck to everyone who may be taking it soon or waiting to receive their scores. 👍
 
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Are there actually reports of US MDs and DOs failing Step 2 CS (in larger percentages than before)? Now you all have me interested in the data.

I have not heard of anybody at my school failing it. Just a few anecdotal reports here on SDN that is scaring the hell out of everyone. We will know more tomorrow.
 
Are there actually reports of US MDs and DOs failing Step 2 CS (in larger percentages than before)? Now you all have me interested in the data.

No official data, but using the announcement of the scoring criteria changes, extrapolation of previous data (available here) suggests that the overall passing rate for US students (first-time testers) would be expected to be 3% lower and overall passing rate for IMGs would be 18% lower. Using the 2012 CS data, that means 94% of US students and 62% of IMGs would be expected to pass on their first attempt. Not enough DO students take CS to separate them out from the US MD students unfortunately!
 
These posts just scare people, and even worries me when I read it, but I have to stick to facts and common sense.. This is BS regarding 40% international students will fail.

Um, no. The information is straight from the source. They set it up to now fail 38% of IMGs. CS is run based off a quota system. The NEJM article ripped it apart for being a scheme, and so this was how they made it more legitimate.
 
Um, no. The information is straight from the source. They set it up to now fail 38% of IMGs. CS is run based off a quota system. The NEJM article ripped it apart for being a scheme, and so this was how they made it more legitimate.

It is ridiculous that any US MD student should have to take this exam. There is oversight of US MD schools. Making US MD students take this exam basically says that they don't trust that US MD schools won't graduate students who can't take basic histories and physicals and perform at the level of a third year medical student. I.e., that they don't trust in the oversight of US MD schools. The CK is a reasonable exam for US students given that it is a point based discriminatory knowledge exam (and unlike CS, is 100% completely objective). The CS is a basic skills competency exam. It is absurd that any accredited US medical school should be allowed to graduate a student who failed this exam. Graduating medical school should be THE exam.

This exam makes sense for non-US MD students only. How much revenue would be lost if they would not require US students to take it?
 
Yeah me too. I can't believe that my entire career now depends on a couple of 10 minute patient notes I wrote.

I'm more pissed at myself that I didn't take it later so that my fail wouldn't inevitably be on my eras

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Yeah me too. I can't believe that my entire career now depends on a couple of 10 minute patient notes I wrote.

I'm more pissed at myself that I didn't take it later so that my fail wouldn't inevitably be on my eras

OMG this and this. Why oh why did I take this in July? And why should four years of my life be forfeit due to a six hour exam?!
 
I've not failed anything in school before and if I fail this I don't even know if I want to do medicine again. I know it's dumb but it's a huge huge huge red mark on your application
 
If I fail, I seriously think I'll have to sit this match out in order to retake it later and find ways to bolster my app to somehow blunt its effect next year... I really, really don't want that to happen...
 
If I fail, I seriously think I'll have to sit this match out in order to retake it later and find ways to bolster my app to somehow blunt its effect next year... I really, really don't want that to happen...

This is what I'm afraid I will have to do. But I have absolutely no idea how to bolster my application in the event of failure. I also have no desire to do anything other than residency at this point.
 
so much for this being a self-esteem boosting thread...lots more fear and anxiety than anything else...
 
Must be your first day on SDN! Welcome.

Haha, been a member here since 2008 and have over 2000 posts, so I'm certainly familiar with the standard protocol of neuroticism around here. I guess I was just pointing out the obvious. The direction this thread took is just par for the course...🙄
 
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