semi-rejection

[gatewasani]

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What schools have programs in which they offer to people that they think would be a good fit but need a little more to get them there.

I'm talking about applying to a school, getting rejected to the MD school but getting accepted to a program that after completion will guarantee acceptance.

I think SIU has one but i'm trying to think of others, I'm NOT talking about an SMP or a masters that you apply to directly, if anyone knows of anything, please let me know.

 

[gravitywave]

i've never heard of anything exactly like what you describe.

the closest i'm familiar with would be the Tulane Anatomy Certification Program http://www.som.tulane.edu/scb/acpinfo.htm they do require that you've already had an unsuccessful cycle and been waitlisted at "an accredited USA medical school." There is a discrete application process.

 

[kami333]

OSU's MedPATH program
http://medicine.osu.edu/students/diversity/Programs/medpath/Pages/index.aspx

 

[gatewasani]

OSU's MedPATH program
http://medicine.osu.edu/students/diversity/Programs/medpath/Pages/index.aspx

thanks, this is pretty much exactly what i'm talking about...

anybody know of any others?

 

[Tin Man]

thanks, this is pretty much exactly what i'm talking about...

anybody know of any others?

The idea that anything will "guarantee" an acceptance into medical school is pretty rare. Most medical schools are not hurting bad enough for applicants to need to select sub-par students that can be offered a slot if they get better. If someone is not good enough for acceptance by just a little bit, that's called a rejection. Period. Better luck next time.

And that's usually what happens. The closest thing I can think of is an interviewer outright telling you, "Well, your stats look good, but your clinical experience is a little weak. If you get that up, you'll have a much better chance next year."

Besides, I'm not really sure what the point of such a program would be (especially with, what, a 40% acceptance rate into most med schools?). If you aren't good enough the first try, then the idea would that you would take more classes, boost your EC, find better mentors, and do everything such a program would be trying to get you to do anyway. I'm not sure why a program would be needed to tell a student that they need to take some classes and get smarter. It just seems like a given that comes with the rejection.

 

[gatewasani]

The idea that anything will "guarantee" an acceptance into medical school is pretty rare. Most medical schools are not hurting bad enough for applicants to need to select sub-par students that can be offered a slot if they get better. If someone is not good enough for acceptance by just a little bit, that's called a rejection. Period. Better luck next time.

And that's usually what happens. The closest thing I can think of is an interviewer outright telling you, "Well, your stats look good, but your clinical experience is a little weak. If you get that up, you'll have a much better chance next year."

Besides, I'm not really sure what the point of such a program would be (especially with, what, a 40% acceptance rate into most med schools?). If you aren't good enough the first try, then the idea would that you would take more classes, boost your EC, find better mentors, and do everything such a program would be trying to get you to do anyway. I'm not sure why a program would be needed to tell a student that they need to take some classes and get smarter. It just seems like a given that comes with the rejection.

no offense but that was a pretty ignorant answer, I don't think you even read any of the previous replies and these programs do exist, even if you don't like it.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

no offense but that was a pretty ignorant answer, I don't think you even read any of the previous replies and these programs do exist, even if you don't like it.

I think Tinman is pretty honest right here. Many of the programs like that are aimed towards URMs or economically troubled persons ( Its very rare that you'll be able to get into a program with a guarantee). However I believe Western University has a program like this. William Casey ( or however you spell it) has a masters program which if you do well in it will allow you to have a good shot at getting into the program.
If my memory serves properly, you had a 3.6/22 right? Simply being said if you didn't get in this this cycle your best hope is to get more clinical volunteering + research + spend 3 months studying for the mcat and retaking.


Or consider alternatives ... Carib, Podiatry. Etc.

 

[Tin Man]

no offense but that was a pretty ignorant answer, I don't think you even read any of the previous replies and these programs do exist, even if you don't like it.

Not at all. I did indeed read the answers before mine, and don't doubt that programs out there like this DO exist, just like programs out there exist that can get you into med school without a college degree, or without an MCAT score. It can happen, but it doesn't happen enough to be considered anything outside of an extreme outlier.

Like I said, the idea that a medical school would do a "conditional acceptance" based on the completion of some program run by the school itself is just strange. The point of such a program would be to essentially bring a "bad" candidate to a competitive status, ie, to prepare them for medical school.

But since there are SO MANY applicants to medical school every year, far more than can ever be seated, medical schools don't need to bother training people who aren't ready yet. If someone requires a program to get ready for school, then that simply means they aren't ready. Why bother training someone who isn't ready yet when there are thousands of applicants who are not only ready, but excel the minimum standards? What school has so few applicants that it's willing to take candidates BELOW their standards and train them UP to their standards?

As the poster above me said, the programs would have to be pretty special ones, likely designed to help fill some sort of quota. Unless you're banking on that quota, it's unlikely you're going to find a whole lot of programs out there that are similar to what you describe, at least as far as my knowledge goes.

But if I'm ignorant, and there are many programs out there like this (not just one or two for URM-type quotas), then I'll take my medicine and shuffle off. 🙂