Service Academy Preference to USUHS?

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Does USUHS give any special consideration to Service Academy students?

Due to obvious constraints, many of us are light on clinical experience and our GPA's may not be as high as civilian schools.

Is this any special consideration given due to the difficulty of our school, and also the fact we are already committed to the military/obvious aptitude for success in a military environment?

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Does USUHS give any special consideration to Service Academy students?

Due to obvious constraints, many of us are light on clinical experience and our GPA's may not be as high as civilian schools.

Is this any special consideration given due to the difficulty of our school, and also the fact we are already committed to the military/obvious aptitude for success in a military environment?

There is no specific preference, but they do take into account the peculiarities of the service academies.
 
Does USUHS give any special consideration to Service Academy students?

Due to obvious constraints, many of us are light on clinical experience and our GPA's may not be as high as civilian schools.

Is this any special consideration given due to the difficulty of our school, and also the fact we are already committed to the military/obvious aptitude for success in a military environment?

As a service academy grad, I highly recommend that you simply complete your commitment, then leave AD and pursue med school at that time unless you are absolutely deadset on becoming an AD military doc. My personal experience has been that med schools will (at that point) more or less ignore your grades as long as you have done well on a recent MCAT. Your Service Academy/Military Experience, as well as your maturity level will make you a much more highly regarded candidate at that time.
 
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As an academy grad, I concur with tscottturner.

Does USUHS give special preference to academy grads? Absolutely. They took in at least 3 people my class year who had difficulty getting in elsewhere.

The academies tend to wean out those they think won't get in anyway. I had a friend with a 26 MCAT but her GPA was 3.4; they wouldn't let her apply since the mins were a 27 MCAT and/or GPA >3.6.

As far as civilian schools, they tend to view service academies well (I interviewed mainly in the south, though). They will let your GPA and/or MCAT slip a bit. Another of my friends had an MCAT of 24 and got into Tulane.

Your biggest foe will be the academy selection board. If they let you apply, you should have a good shot at a civilian school, and if not USUHS should take you. Some schools in particular are Academy friendly: Loyola in Chicago (not to me), Tulane, Georgetown. Private schools seem to like the guaranteed dough. UT San Antonio also has had many grads.

And as tscott noted, if you do your AD first, your chances are even much higher as long as your MCAT is tolerable (>20). This is heresay, but some schools will add points to your GPA if you're an academy grad with active duty experience.

I would recommend doing your AD first if you're really interested in doing some great things in medicine. I wish I had, though I channeled all of my effort on going to directly to med school. So why would I wait now? Your AD commitment is 'only' 5 years. With HPSP, it becomes 9, and with USUHS, 12, and don't forget the intervening 4 years of med school and 3-6 of residency. By the time you finish med school, your perspectives on life, medicine, and the military will change. Things outside of an academy are much different. If you go into med school right after graduation, the military controls you for at least 15 more years. That doesn't include the possibility of being a flight surgeon or doing a fellowship.

Assuming you're a typical academy grad, you're probably more into the hands on fields like surgery, EM, etc. Unless you're in a war zone (Iraq/Afghanistan), the military doesn't utilize these fields well. Surgeons like to operate. Healthy, young soldiers don't need operations (maybe ortho), so you have to find retirees, a VA etc. to get cases. If you're stationed in Korea, good luck.

The big advances and procedures in medicine are in the civilian world. Neurosurgery, transplant surgery, interventional radiology, cardiology, etc. have more action and are easier to get into in the civilian sector. The training (number of patients, cases) is better. There is some evidence that the didactic education in the military is superior (i.e. test scores), but that's due in part to having less patients.

Sure, 5 years of delaying your real dream isn't appetizing. But you can learn a lot, be a part of the 'real' military (docs are very much a support role), and most importantly, totally control your life afterward. If you like the military, you'll have little problem getting into USUHS. If not, your chances are enhanced for civ schools.
 
At UT-Houston there were several students who were prior Service Academy grads who had paid their time back and were not sponsored. You can go through medschool and if at the end you decide that you really miss the military (some people do), you can get back in during residency. At least this way you keep you options wide open.

If you go through USUHS, you will ensure that you will be in the military for a whole career as the USUHS and service academy commitments are NOT served concurrently. Buddy of mine is doing ENT, went to West Point, he owes 14 years. He laments this on a consistent basis.
 
Sure, 5 years of delaying your real dream isn't appetizing. But you can learn a lot, be a part of the 'real' military (docs are very much a support role), and most importantly, totally control your life afterward. If you like the military, you'll have little problem getting into USUHS. If not, your chances are enhanced for civ schools.

Delaying a career by 5 years is nothing over the course of a lifetime. It's not that obvious when you are still at the academy (whichever one you may be at), but on this side of things it has given me a significant advantage relative to my peers - not necessarily grade wise, but simply being able to get things done in an efficient manner. It also doesn't hurt being older than most of the residents and even some of the attendings.
 
I really appreciate the feedback.

I am pretty much committed to a career in military medicine at this point, and I have read some VERY negative things about military medicine on this forum. I still want to go into military medicine for the same reasons I wanted to come to the Academy, service.

I have read many things about the bad pay and bad conditions, but isn't that what the military is about, sacrifice?

What are your feelings about HPSP vs. USUHS? Also, do y'all agree with the general consensus I have seen on this board that seems to say "Avoid military medicine at all costs?" Thanks again.
 
I really appreciate the feedback.

I am pretty much committed to a career in military medicine at this point, and I have read some VERY negative things about military medicine on this forum. I still want to go into military medicine for the same reasons I wanted to come to the Academy, service.

I have read many things about the bad pay and bad conditions, but isn't that what the military is about, sacrifice?

What are your feelings about HPSP vs. USUHS? Also, do y'all agree with the general consensus I have seen on this board that seems to say "Avoid military medicine at all costs?" Thanks again.


You are still providing a valuable service to your country and fellow man by going into medicine--you do not have to be military to "serve". Yes, the military can be about sacrifice, and right now that may not seem so bad, but you are in a difficult place to judge how much sacrifice you are willing to make in the future. You have been sheltered in a service acadamy, are single and don't have children. The level of sacrifice you are willing to make may significantly change if you are married, have young children, or spend 7+ years in meds school/residency only to be limited in what/how you practice medicine.

Life is about options--keep them open. As many on the forum have stated, FAP is a great way of choosing your own path then coming to the military when you are in the specialty and residency of your choice.

I think you may really appreciate a break after the academy, serve on active duty then think about getting out and going to med school.
 
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