Shadowing hours before and after sending in the application

[MOUTHLOVER]

---

Members don't see this ad.

let's say I submit my application on June 4 and I write that I have shadowed for 100 hours, but really I've shadowed only something like 40, but have at least a 100 scheduled to be done before the end of June... Is there something wrong with that?

 

[doc toothache]

You are kidding, right?

 

[dentalprodigy]

Put 40 unless you have lose morals. Honestly 40 vs 100 id not gonna make a difference. 40 is enough

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using Tapatalk

 

[MOUTHLOVER]

You are kidding, right?

Originally, I thought that this would be wrong. But I've come across many people telling me that there's nothing wrong with doing this. I just wanted to hear the opinions of the SDN community.

thanks

 

[Dgeorg6]

Originally, I thought that this would be wrong. But I've come across many people telling me that there's nothing wrong with doing this. I just wanted to hear the opinions of the SDN community.

thanks

If you want to do the ethical thing, put 40. If you don't care, put 100. They wont know, and by the time they actually review your app you will have done the 100 you wrote done (if of course your not lying about having 100 hours scheduled).

 

[Longcatislong]

I would write the 100, if it is certain that you'll get those done before your interviews.

 

[doc toothache]

It is evident that there are a few predents who cannot identify a lie when they see one.

 

[MOUTHLOVER]

It is evident that there are a few predents who cannot identify a lie when they see one.

What are you referring to?

 

[Longcatislong]

Is there a section on the application for planned activities or future activities? If so, I suppose you could put your planned 60hrs of shadowing there so you wouldn't be "lying"

 

[MOUTHLOVER]

Is there a section on the application for planned activities or future activities? If so, I suppose you could put your planned 60hrs of shadowing there so you wouldn't be "lying"

Would it be lying though. if those 60 hours were completed before the application was recieved, or even read, then I in the reference of the reader those 60 hours would not be "prospective"

 

[y3nd0]

Even though you have 60 hours planned, you never know what will happen. What if something unexpected could come up and you can't fulfill those hours? Then you'd have to live with knowing that the 100 hours you listed aren't real.

Put down 40 hours. If you honestly think that the 60 hours of shadowing will make a huge difference, then maybe you should wait to apply next cycle.

 

[jeffity]

You can leave the end date open. That'll let them know it's still in progress. I think they are aware enough of the gap between submission date and the date they get around to looking at your application to piece it together.

 

[MOUTHLOVER]

Even though you have 60 hours planned, you never know what will happen. What if something unexpected could come up and you can't fulfill those hours? Then you'd have to live with knowing that the 100 hours you listed aren't real.

Put down 40 hours. If you honestly think that the 60 hours of shadowing will make a huge difference, then maybe you should wait to apply next cycle.

For me, I plan on writing down what I've completed.

But if you did write down that extra 60 hours, and you did complete them, it would not be lying. If you didn't complete them, then it would. And the judgement on whether or not you should do that, is entirely based on the individual situation. Certain people have easier access to gaining these hours than others. Those that do not have shadowing sessions lined up, or know of any dentists willing to let them shadow probably should not write down those extra 60, because they most likely would not finish. Making them a liar!
- am I right in saying this, or what?

 

[y3nd0]

For me, I plan on writing down what I've completed.

But if you did write down that extra 60 hours, and you did complete them, it would not be lying. If you didn't complete them, then it would. And the judgement on whether or not you should do that, is entirely based on the individual situation. Certain people have easier access to gaining these hours than others. Those that do not have shadowing sessions lined up, or know of any dentists willing to let them shadow probably should not write down those extra 60, because they most likely would not finish. Making them a liar!
- am I right in saying this, or what?

That's pretty much what I'm saying. But seriously, I honestly believe that even though you're confident that you can finish those 60 hours, you should put down 40 any way. It's the honest thing to do, and even though you're confident that you can finish it, you just never know what will happen. It' s almost like saying, "Well, I plan on doing 50 hours of more volunteer work, 50 hours more of shadowing, and 50 hours more of research during the summer. I'm gonna put that down on my application since I planned it". Does that seem ethical? What's the difference between that and putting down a planned out 60 hours worth of shadowing? Only the magnitude of the "lie".

And if you think 60 hours worth of shadowing will make you a more competitive applicant because you're lacking in other areas, then clearly you need to wait until next cycle to apply.

 

[dantemac]

There is no section for planned activities. Honestly, I indicated this to schools in their secondary applications in the essay section/ section asking for future plans. I told them that throughout the summer I had dentists who I would be shadowing further to stay up to date with the profession. Probably in only 2 out of my 9 interviews did the schools ask me to elaborate on this.

The best strategy is to get everything done and in place before you apply. It will make things so much easier