Shadowing/volunteering with a DPM vs. completing coursework/boards are WAY diff.

[GymMan]

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I've shadowed and worked briefly with a DPM in his office. But I was told years ago by an MD, that you can do all the shadowing or volunteer work you want. Anyone can give of their time and volunteer (Even the local trashman gets paid to exist on the job a set number of hours, yet will he make a good doctor?). Well truly then, this giving of your clock and effort won't either help your application to professional school OR guarantee knowledge of a profession sufficient enough to make a decision to enter it. Grades are a single most important factor. Even grades, though able to get you in, don't mean you can't/won't crumble under the daily grind of study, study, study, til you puke.

I see very many optimistic, or perhaps better put, delusional personalities here that take for granted getting in equating to guaranteed success in a given field. Sorry to say it does not work that way, my friends, in the real world. If so I could pickup a musical instrument today and practice a week or two and play in a symphony next month. Wanna bet on my failure or success in that regard? I think not.

Personality traits in line with a given profession also come into play. I've seen too many ego's or hotheaded students with great grades, keep silent through interviews, get accepted to all types of pro schools then somehow make it through depsite being ridiculously arrogant. The flipside is that I've seen many not make it. I still say that just because you get in, there's no guarantee you'll get through. Many students become troubled under the stress, didn't realize (until they are there, as there's no way to ascertain this til you ARE there in the hotspot) the rigors or get disgruntled.

I'm wanting to do this but put off by the personalites I'll clash with, that are so pro-their-profession and those that can't objectively look at their role. I see it here in response to my posts already. How can you deal with the profession (any profession not just DPM or DC) if you can't even deal with the students supposedly going INTO said profession?

Unfortunately I'm a person that calls a spade a spade. I can't take the pitfalls of a profession and "dress up a pig" like so many rah-rah pro med people. Hey I believe in health and healthcare but at least I'm objective, not immersed subjectively that every career or school I've attended was the cream of the crop.

Lastly, I'm accepted to school now, yet after all this year's time has passed I have neither the passion nor the drive or incentive to even look for an apt. in a new city let alone buy books or buy notebooks to attend arduous lectures. Maybe I'm getting worn and jaded and old. But God forbid if I go all the way there only to decide it's not for me. I will have lost so much time and money, never to be recouped. Lost tuition, lost money, wasted time, etc. Time isn't something you can EVER get back so don't squander it. Yet there is NO way to decide til you play the game for real by attending and seeing what your classes, and mates, are like. It's not a flippant decision to make is it? No time to decide, yet no idea what to do.

If it seems my decision is made to quit - it is not. I don't want to quit, yet don't want to embark on a road destined not to succeed. There is no answer in reality. Either **** or get off the pot. But ironically either way you lose. If you succeed you forge a trap, of a job you can't afford to leave. If you fail, you dig quite a financial hole of which you must struggle to get out. This is clearly a quandary for sure, and an unenviable one to say the least.

My take homepoint is: make sure you want to do this for real. And make proof positive it's not just some publicity stunt, to figure that perhaps you can try a few schools/careers til one fits just right like a shoe. You'll waste alot of time and money this way. Don't waste anyone's time if unsure. Yet how does one become sure? Good question.

 

[DPMstudent]

what the .......

 

[allenmarchallo]

<---grabs

 

[MaseratiGT]

I've shadowed and worked briefly with a DPM in his office. But I was told years ago by an MD, that you can do all the shadowing or volunteer work you want. Anyone can give of their time and volunteer (Even the local trashman gets paid to exist on the job a set number of hours, yet will he make a good doctor?). Well truly then, this giving of your clock and effort won't either help your application to professional school OR guarantee knowledge of a profession sufficient enough to make a decision to enter it. Grades are a single most important factor. Even grades, though able to get you in, don't mean you can't/won't crumble under the daily grind of study, study, study, til you puke.

I see very many optimistic, or perhaps better put, delusional personalities here that take for granted getting in equating to guaranteed success in a given field. Sorry to say it does not work that way, my friends, in the real world. If so I could pickup a musical instrument today and practice a week or two and play in a symphony next month. Wanna bet on my failure or success in that regard? I think not.

Personality traits in line with a given profession also come into play. I've seen too many ego's or hotheaded students with great grades, keep silent through interviews, get accepted to all types of pro schools then somehow make it through depsite being ridiculously arrogant. The flipside is that I've seen many not make it. I still say that just because you get in, there's no guarantee you'll get through. Many students become troubled under the stress, didn't realize (until they are there, as there's no way to ascertain this til you ARE there in the hotspot) the rigors or get disgruntled.

I'm wanting to do this but put off by the personalites I'll clash with, that are so pro-their-profession and those that can't objectively look at their role. I see it here in response to my posts already. How can you deal with the profession (any profession not just DPM or DC) if you can't even deal with the students supposedly going INTO said profession?

Unfortunately I'm a person that calls a spade a spade. I can't take the pitfalls of a profession and "dress up a pig" like so many rah-rah pro med people. Hey I believe in health and healthcare but at least I'm objective, not immersed subjectively that every career or school I've attended was the cream of the crop.

Lastly, I'm accepted to school now, yet after all this year's time has passed I have neither the passion nor the drive or incentive to even look for an apt. in a new city let alone buy books or buy notebooks to attend arduous lectures. Maybe I'm getting worn and jaded and old. But God forbid if I go all the way there only to decide it's not for me. I will have lost so much time and money, never to be recouped. Lost tuition, lost money, wasted time, etc. Time isn't something you can EVER get back so don't squander it. Yet there is NO way to decide til you play the game for real by attending and seeing what your classes, and mates, are like. It's not a flippant decision to make is it? No time to decide, yet no idea what to do.

If it seems my decision is made to quit - it is not. I don't want to quit, yet don't want to embark on a road destined not to succeed. There is no answer in reality. Either **** or get off the pot. But ironically either way you lose. If you succeed you forge a trap, of a job you can't afford to leave. If you fail, you dig quite a financial hole of which you must struggle to get out. This is clearly a quandary for sure, and an unenviable one to say the least.

My take homepoint is: make sure you want to do this for real. And make proof positive it's not just some publicity stunt, to figure that perhaps you can try a few schools/careers til one fits just right like a shoe. You'll waste alot of time and money this way. Don't waste anyone's time if unsure. Yet how does one become sure? Good question.

Your horrendous grammar skills make my eyeballs bleed. Who are you preaching to? The serious students here who know what kind of discipline it takes to make a great physician? With all due respect, I don't think you have ANY idea what it takes to attend any sort of graduate program.

You are getting these responses to your posts for two reasons:

1. Your jejune threads. For example, "Should alcoholics get special treatment in school."

2. Your churlishness toward our profession.

Of course your going to clash with all of the professional students in your professional school. It's the same situation here. You want us to feel sorry for you, pat you on the back, and tell you that you'll make millions of dollars being a slacker.

You are obviously not cut out for a medical program. Go to chiro school. Better yet, go find a chiro forum.

 

[PJAG]

I've shadowed and worked briefly with a DPM in his office. But I was told years ago by an MD, that you can do all the shadowing or volunteer work you want. Anyone can give of their time and volunteer (Even the local trashman gets paid to exist on the job a set number of hours, yet will he make a good doctor?). Well truly then, this giving of your clock and effort won't either help your application to professional school OR guarantee knowledge of a profession sufficient enough to make a decision to enter it. Grades are a single most important factor. Even grades, though able to get you in, don't mean you can't/won't crumble under the daily grind of study, study, study, til you puke.

I see very many optimistic, or perhaps better put, delusional personalities here that take for granted getting in equating to guaranteed success in a given field. Sorry to say it does not work that way, my friends, in the real world. If so I could pickup a musical instrument today and practice a week or two and play in a symphony next month. Wanna bet on my failure or success in that regard? I think not.

Personality traits in line with a given profession also come into play. I've seen too many ego's or hotheaded students with great grades, keep silent through interviews, get accepted to all types of pro schools then somehow make it through depsite being ridiculously arrogant. The flipside is that I've seen many not make it. I still say that just because you get in, there's no guarantee you'll get through. Many students become troubled under the stress, didn't realize (until they are there, as there's no way to ascertain this til you ARE there in the hotspot) the rigors or get disgruntled.

I'm wanting to do this but put off by the personalites I'll clash with, that are so pro-their-profession and those that can't objectively look at their role. I see it here in response to my posts already. How can you deal with the profession (any profession not just DPM or DC) if you can't even deal with the students supposedly going INTO said profession?

Unfortunately I'm a person that calls a spade a spade. I can't take the pitfalls of a profession and "dress up a pig" like so many rah-rah pro med people. Hey I believe in health and healthcare but at least I'm objective, not immersed subjectively that every career or school I've attended was the cream of the crop.

Lastly, I'm accepted to school now, yet after all this year's time has passed I have neither the passion nor the drive or incentive to even look for an apt. in a new city let alone buy books or buy notebooks to attend arduous lectures. Maybe I'm getting worn and jaded and old. But God forbid if I go all the way there only to decide it's not for me. I will have lost so much time and money, never to be recouped. Lost tuition, lost money, wasted time, etc. Time isn't something you can EVER get back so don't squander it. Yet there is NO way to decide til you play the game for real by attending and seeing what your classes, and mates, are like. It's not a flippant decision to make is it? No time to decide, yet no idea what to do.

If it seems my decision is made to quit - it is not. I don't want to quit, yet don't want to embark on a road destined not to succeed. There is no answer in reality. Either **** or get off the pot. But ironically either way you lose. If you succeed you forge a trap, of a job you can't afford to leave. If you fail, you dig quite a financial hole of which you must struggle to get out. This is clearly a quandary for sure, and an unenviable one to say the least.

My take homepoint is: make sure you want to do this for real. And make proof positive it's not just some publicity stunt, to figure that perhaps you can try a few schools/careers til one fits just right like a shoe. You'll waste alot of time and money this way. Don't waste anyone's time if unsure. Yet how does one become sure? Good question.

Sounds like ur already in depression mode without even going to school.

 

[Feli]

 

[runner0382]

Time for meds, kids!

 

[165007]

alrighty😎

 

[hyperpodia]

You can make it if you really want, but you must try, try and try ...🙂

 

[handoverfist77]

Life is filled with risk. Like you said **** or get off the pot!

 

[GymMan]

I didn't realize you guys would attack this as if someone just declared war on Switzerland? 😱

In my hear of hearts, I just feel this way. Sorry to the grammer Nazi's too. I'm not Hemingway nor care or claim to be. 🙄 If you can't get the jist of this while I was tired last night then so be it. I'm still adamant that this is the prespective too few see it from til...it becomes THEIR reality. Maybe I'm a bit jumpy about it but rest assured it happens more often than you think. I don't want to be the statisitic (dropout) holding a tuition debt and no degree to show for it. What do I, or does anyone, benefit from going to a school then saying, "oops, should've stayed home"? 😕


Ok if you still disagree that this is a dilemma, then think hard of a situtaion you've been at a crossroads and had to make a snap decision with much riding on the line. How can you be a good doc if you can't even empathize with a potential colleague should I decide to go and somehow make it through? You really think your patients will come in and tell you their diagnosis, so you won't have to be too annoyed to figure it out for them? Man, I hope you don't think this way.

 

[JEWmongous]

I didn't realize you guys would attack this as if someone just declared war on Switzerland? 😱

In my hear of hearts, I just feel this way. Sorry to the grammer Nazi's too. I'm not Hemingway nor care or claim to be. 🙄 If you can't get the jist of this while I was tired last night then so be it. I'm still adamant that this is the prespective too few see it from til...it becomes THEIR reality. Maybe I'm a bit jumpy about it but rest assured it happens more often than you think. I don't want to be the statisitic (dropout) holding a tuition debt and no degree to show for it. What do I, or does anyone, benefit from going to a school then saying, "oops, should've stayed home"? 😕


Ok if you still disagree that this is a dilemma, then think hard of a situtaion you've been at a crossroads and had to make a snap decision with much riding on the line. How can you be a good doc if you can't even empathize with a potential colleague should I decide to go and somehow make it through? You really think your patients will come in and tell you their diagnosis, so you won't have to be too annoyed to figure it out for them? Man, I hope you don't think this way.

damn lay off the kiddie cocaine brah! you really sound like a spaz gone wrong

 

[184013]

Actually I believe this is an alcohol induced stupor~~

These are thoughts every student, potential student, and current professional encounter, perhaps not as melodramatic. After reading the posting a few times I do not find a true objective except that you are upset. However, I do understand the pressures that are involved with tuition and the future debt you will have to repay - but this is life and you will encounter it to a degree in every field... risk vs payoff. That being said if you are not comfortable I would change your position to a much more moderate growth rate / low risk job field. You will not be happy in 7 years of school if your thoughts and self are consumed like that.
On a side note - what is wrong with dressing up pigs? They have feelings to.....

 

[Dmayor22]

I vote for a moderator closing his threads and banning this guy. For all the years that this Pod community was low we are finally get a lot of students and professionals here lets not let one guy start this forum towards a networks 54 thing.

 

[MaseratiGT]

I didn't realize you guys would attack this as if someone just declared war on Switzerland? <a href="http://img.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" smilieid="10" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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In my hear of hearts, I just feel this way. Sorry to the grammer Nazi's too. I'm not Hemingway nor care or claim to be. <a href="http://img.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="8" class="inlineimg" /> If you can't get the jist of this while I was tired last night then so be it. I'm still adamant that this is the prespective too few see it from til...it becomes THEIR reality. Maybe I'm a bit jumpy about it but rest assured it happens more often than you think. I don't want to be the statisitic (dropout) holding a tuition debt and no degree to show for it. What do I, or does anyone, benefit from going to a school then saying, &quot;oops, should've stayed home&quot;? <a href="http://img.studentdoctor.net/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" smilieid="11" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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Ok if you still disagree that this is a dilemma, then think hard of a situtaion you've been at a crossroads and had to make a snap decision with much riding on the line. How can you be a good doc if you can't even empathize with a potential colleague should I decide to go and somehow make it through? You really think your patients will come in and tell you their diagnosis, so you won't have to be too annoyed to figure it out for them? Man, I hope you don't think this way.

GymMan,

Did you not read my post? I gave you two very specific reasons why you get the responses you do.

I can fully empathize with students who are trying to make hard decisions. What I cannot empathize with are your comments. You started here with telling us pods are mediocre. You want special consideration for your nightlife. You don't want to work and your looking for quick money.

Don't spit in our faces then ask us for kudos.

 

[PJAG]

How can you be a good doc if you can't even empathize with a potential colleague should I decide to go and somehow make it through? You really think your patients will come in and tell you their diagnosis, so you won't have to be too annoyed to figure it out for them? Man, I hope you don't think this way.

Since you’re this “potential colleague”, we have been suggesting that you not go through DPM School for it may be too severe & stressful for you at this present moment. If you were my patient I would strongly recommend that you seek psychiatric help for your depression & alcohol abuse problems. Quite clearly, you are not ready to be a doc for you are in an unhealthy situation yourself. Ultimately I am afraid of having a doc out there who is too overwhelmed by stress to handle his patients (it just sounds scary). Good luck in your future endeavors; if it is DPM School, I hope that you have taken care of your issues by then.

 

[GymMan]

Ok, it's not easy to convey opinions here but I'm trying. On a good day, I'd love to do this. On my best days, I certainly feel I can and want to. Yet the inconsistency of how I feel makes any career difficult. A career should be first and foremost tolerable, if not wholly desired. I clearly think health is paramount, no question. Why else would I join and work my butt off in a gym for over a decade now? But, a career can also drain of your time and resources toward yourself. I'm trying to bridge this gap. I want to utilize my abilities (lest you think I don't have them or they're up my butt) to think and solve patient's problems, yet want to maintain a lifestyle conducive to being able to have plenty of time for me and my pursuits of health, etc. Even though Pods has this, it still will devour much of your time.

To give entirely to a profession via not sleeping for 4 years of school and being awakened nightly for the next 3 (should I academically and physically survive the 1st 4)to cover shifts while a resident may sound doable now but wait til you get there, and remember these words some night at 3am driving into a hospital on call half asleep. The stark realities merge with the blissful innocence that may seem like nobility now. Just remember, all that glitters is not gold. You will bust your butts to achieve this, if you do, and a price of effort and exhaustion awaits those game enough to try.

I am not full of baloney here, ask some of the residents and attendings here if the road isn't paved with huge obstacles that may at times be insurmountable. I'm just being a messenger of sanity and reason not a sugarcoated dream fairy. I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad tidings either but am only speaking graphic truth, like it or not. Can a resident or attending please give their experiences both pro and con with candid honesty.

 

[j0ez0r]

so tired of the gym man

 

[MaseratiGT]

Ok, it's not easy to convey opinions here but I'm trying. On a good day, I'd love to do this. On my best days, I certainly feel I can and want to. Yet the inconsistency of how I feel makes any career difficult. A career should be first and foremost tolerable, if not wholly desired. I clearly think health is paramount, no question. Why else would I join and work my butt off in a gym for over a decade now? But, a career can also drain of your time and resources toward yourself. I'm trying to bridge this gap. I want to utilize my abilities (lest you think I don't have them or they're up my butt) to think and solve patient's problems, yet want to maintain a lifestyle conducive to being able to have plenty of time for me and my pursuits of health, etc. Even though Pods has this, it still will devour much of your time.

To give entirely to a profession via not sleeping for 4 years of school and being awakened nightly for the next 3 (should I academically and physically survive the 1st 4)to cover shifts while a resident may sound doable now but wait til you get there, and remember these words some night at 3am driving into a hospital on call half asleep. The stark realities merge with the blissful innocence that may seem like nobility now. Just remember, all that glitters is not gold. You will bust your butts to achieve this, if you do, and a price of effort and exhaustion awaits those game enough to try.

I am not full of baloney here, ask some of the residents and attendings here if the road isn't paved with huge obstacles that may at times be insurmountable. I'm just being a messenger of sanity and reason not a sugarcoated dream fairy. I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad tidings either but am only speaking graphic truth, like it or not. Can a resident or attending please give their experiences both pro and con with candid honesty.

Dude, we already know this. Why do you need a resident to tell you something that you know to be true?

There hasn't been anyone who has blown smoke up your ***. We have all told you that the pathway is hard. We all know that residents are pulling 80 hour weeks.

But the tasks placed before students, by the trainers, are not insurmountable. If so, we would not have any physicians. They may feel hopeless to YOU, as we have seen that theme throughout your posts. That is exactly why almost every single poster has told you to NOT pursue a medical doctorate.

For others, the tasks placed ahead of them, no matter the difficulty, are stepping stones. Those of us here want to make something of ourselves. That inherently requires dedication, scarifice, and perseverance. If you are not willing to offer ALL of your mental and physical strength to your profession, especially a healing one, then step aside and don't waste anyone's time.

There are many bright students who want to become ANY sort of physician. If you can't withstand the rigors of medical training, let someone with the self-confidence and drive to become an able practitioner take your spot.

You are racked with doubt, pessimism, and a faulty work ethic. You vacillate your decision with every post. In all seriousness, you need to work on that before ever applying. You already know it takes hard work. We do as well. You don't need to tell us. Now, you need to decide; can you put the time and effort into this and make it work? That's counsel that you can't find on SDN.

 

[MaseratiGT]

Ok, it's not easy to convey opinions here but I'm trying. On a good day, I'd love to do this. On my best days, I certainly feel I can and want to. Yet the inconsistency of how I feel makes any career difficult. A career should be first and foremost tolerable, if not wholly desired. I clearly think health is paramount, no question. Why else would I join and work my butt off in a gym for over a decade now? But, a career can also drain of your time and resources toward yourself. I'm trying to bridge this gap. I want to utilize my abilities (lest you think I don't have them or they're up my butt) to think and solve patient's problems, yet want to maintain a lifestyle conducive to being able to have plenty of time for me and my pursuits of health, etc. Even though Pods has this, it still will devour much of your time.

To give entirely to a profession via not sleeping for 4 years of school and being awakened nightly for the next 3 (should I academically and physically survive the 1st 4)to cover shifts while a resident may sound doable now but wait til you get there, and remember these words some night at 3am driving into a hospital on call half asleep. The stark realities merge with the blissful innocence that may seem like nobility now. Just remember, all that glitters is not gold. You will bust your butts to achieve this, if you do, and a price of effort and exhaustion awaits those game enough to try.

I am not full of baloney here, ask some of the residents and attendings here if the road isn't paved with huge obstacles that may at times be insurmountable. I'm just being a messenger of sanity and reason not a sugarcoated dream fairy. I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad tidings either but am only speaking graphic truth, like it or not. Can a resident or attending please give their experiences both pro and con with candid honesty.

I just now read your post in another thread regarding teachers out to get you. 🙄

Come on, man. You have to own up to your own mistakes.

 

[SportPOD]

Ok, it's not easy to convey opinions here but I'm trying. On a good day, I'd love to do this. On my best days, I certainly feel I can and want to. Yet the inconsistency of how I feel makes any career difficult. A career should be first and foremost tolerable, if not wholly desired. I clearly think health is paramount, no question. Why else would I join and work my butt off in a gym for over a decade now? But, a career can also drain of your time and resources toward yourself. I'm trying to bridge this gap. I want to utilize my abilities (lest you think I don't have them or they're up my butt) to think and solve patient's problems, yet want to maintain a lifestyle conducive to being able to have plenty of time for me and my pursuits of health, etc. Even though Pods has this, it still will devour much of your time.

To give entirely to a profession via not sleeping for 4 years of school and being awakened nightly for the next 3 (should I academically and physically survive the 1st 4)to cover shifts while a resident may sound doable now but wait til you get there, and remember these words some night at 3am driving into a hospital on call half asleep. The stark realities merge with the blissful innocence that may seem like nobility now. Just remember, all that glitters is not gold. You will bust your butts to achieve this, if you do, and a price of effort and exhaustion awaits those game enough to try.

I am not full of baloney here, ask some of the residents and attendings here if the road isn't paved with huge obstacles that may at times be insurmountable. I'm just being a messenger of sanity and reason not a sugarcoated dream fairy. I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad tidings either but am only speaking graphic truth, like it or not. Can a resident or attending please give their experiences both pro and con with candid honesty.

What kind of response are you looking for from an attending or resident? It seems that you already have a set opinion about med school/residency. 😕

If you don't like the true stories of hard work, long hours and sleepless nights then get out of the medical field. The human body doesn't quit at 6 pm and turn back on at 8 am.

 

[NatCh]

Can a resident or attending please give their experiences both pro and con with candid honesty.

Yes, it's hard at times.
No, you might not make it through.
Don't even start it if you're not committed.

 

[cool_vkb]

I've shadowed and worked briefly with a DPM in his office. But I was told years ago by an MD, that you can do all the shadowing or volunteer work you want. Anyone can give of their time and volunteer (Even the local trashman gets paid to exist on the job a set number of hours, yet will he make a good doctor?). Well truly then, this giving of your clock and effort won't either help your application to professional school OR guarantee knowledge of a profession sufficient enough to make a decision to enter it. Grades are a single most important factor. Even grades, though able to get you in, don't mean you can't/won't crumble under the daily grind of study, study, study, til you puke.

I see very many optimistic, or perhaps better put, delusional personalities here that take for granted getting in equating to guaranteed success in a given field. Sorry to say it does not work that way, my friends, in the real world. If so I could pickup a musical instrument today and practice a week or two and play in a symphony next month. Wanna bet on my failure or success in that regard? I think not.

Personality traits in line with a given profession also come into play. I've seen too many ego's or hotheaded students with great grades, keep silent through interviews, get accepted to all types of pro schools then somehow make it through depsite being ridiculously arrogant. The flipside is that I've seen many not make it. I still say that just because you get in, there's no guarantee you'll get through. Many students become troubled under the stress, didn't realize (until they are there, as there's no way to ascertain this til you ARE there in the hotspot) the rigors or get disgruntled.

I'm wanting to do this but put off by the personalites I'll clash with, that are so pro-their-profession and those that can't objectively look at their role. I see it here in response to my posts already. How can you deal with the profession (any profession not just DPM or DC) if you can't even deal with the students supposedly going INTO said profession?

Unfortunately I'm a person that calls a spade a spade. I can't take the pitfalls of a profession and "dress up a pig" like so many rah-rah pro med people. Hey I believe in health and healthcare but at least I'm objective, not immersed subjectively that every career or school I've attended was the cream of the crop.

Lastly, I'm accepted to school now, yet after all this year's time has passed I have neither the passion nor the drive or incentive to even look for an apt. in a new city let alone buy books or buy notebooks to attend arduous lectures. Maybe I'm getting worn and jaded and old. But God forbid if I go all the way there only to decide it's not for me. I will have lost so much time and money, never to be recouped. Lost tuition, lost money, wasted time, etc. Time isn't something you can EVER get back so don't squander it. Yet there is NO way to decide til you play the game for real by attending and seeing what your classes, and mates, are like. It's not a flippant decision to make is it? No time to decide, yet no idea what to do.

If it seems my decision is made to quit - it is not. I don't want to quit, yet don't want to embark on a road destined not to succeed. There is no answer in reality. Either **** or get off the pot. But ironically either way you lose. If you succeed you forge a trap, of a job you can't afford to leave. If you fail, you dig quite a financial hole of which you must struggle to get out. This is clearly a quandary for sure, and an unenviable one to say the least.

My take homepoint is: make sure you want to do this for real. And make proof positive it's not just some publicity stunt, to figure that perhaps you can try a few schools/careers til one fits just right like a shoe. You'll waste alot of time and money this way. Don't waste anyone's time if unsure. Yet how does one become sure? Good question.

woah! and people say iam extreme. lol!

We should have new rules that limit these threads strictly to the discussion of Podiatry and podiatry related stuff (which should be benificial to future or fellow pod students). anything else should be rejected outrightly as SPAM and the OP should be banned.

I'am clicking the red triangle icon on left handside to report this gentleman.

 

[MaseratiGT]

woah! and people say iam extreme. lol!

We should have new rules that limit these threads strictly to the discussion of Podiatry and podiatry related stuff (which should be benificial to future or fellow pod students). anything else should be rejected outrightly as SPAM and the OP should be banned.

I'am clicking the red triangle icon on left handside to report this gentleman.

Welcome back, cool! 😎

 

[drmeggo]

Seriously dude, if you are this focused on your "me time" and "gym time" don't go to any type of professional school. No matter what you do when you grow up and become an adult you will not be able to spend hours in the gym unless you are a personal trainer or work at the gym. Sorry.


Podiatry is a great profession and one that offers the incentive for a great lifestyle after you have earned it by going to school for 4 years, 3 years of residency, and then a few in private practice. Priorities have to change to get through that and I don't think that you have the drive to do it.

IMO.

😳

 

[cool_vkb]

Welcome back, cool! 😎

Thank You🙂

 

[GymMan]

Seriously dude, if you are this focused on your "me time" and "gym time" don't go to any type of professional school. No matter what you do when you grow up and become an adult you will not be able to spend hours in the gym unless you are a personal trainer or work at the gym. Sorry.


Podiatry is a great profession and one that offers the incentive for a great lifestyle after you have earned it by going to school for 4 years, 3 years of residency, and then a few in private practice. Priorities have to change to get through that and I don't think that you have the drive to do it.

IMO.

😳

Wrote a whole reply but isn't worth defending my feelings here. No one listens.

 

[PJAG]

Wrote a whole reply but isn't worth defending my feelings here. No one listens.

A psychiatrist would be of some help. Im only giving some advice.

 

[GymMan]

A psychiatrist would be of some help. Im only giving some advice.

Been there done that. I'm not taking meds to go to school. If I can't naturally achieve this goal, then it's not sustainable nor for me in the long run.

 

[PJAG]

Been there done that. I'm not taking meds to go to school. If I can't naturally achieve this goal, then it's not sustainable nor for me in the long run.

I guess you know your answer.

 

[G0dFather]

wow this thread got way too crazyy!! i mean honestly if anyone put up with 4 yrs of school at this point wats another 4 yrs by now habituation should have taken effect lol .... u gotta be more optimistic about life ...... and everyone in dis podiatry forum gotta be a little nice lol everyone is very tense here lol

 

[GymMan]

It's way off I agree.

 

[MaseratiGT]

Wrote a whole reply but isn't worth defending my feelings here. No one listens.

We have pacts to combat trolls. Solidarity.

 

[GymMan]

We have pacts to combat trolls. Solidarity.

What exactly would I waste time here for? I'm not paid here man, to take away from things I could be doing or enjoy, in order to post stupid posts, ok? I'm not trolling, I'm trying to resolve a problem I'm dealing with. Please knock off the junk that makes this look like a joke. I hope you are joking. I wish I could get a clear depiction of things without those of you thinking this is pure bull****. If you're offended I'm sorry. I'm trying to deal with this and get advice. Sorry man if that's a problem for you. I'd rather you accept my apology and try to offer constructive advice not derogatory comments. Thanks for your understanding.

 

[MaseratiGT]

What exactly would I waste time here for? I'm not paid to take away from things I could be doing or enjoy to post stupid posts, ok? I'm not trolling, I'm trying to resolve a problem I'm dealing with. Please knock off the junk that makes this look like a joke. I hope you are joking. I wish I could get a clear depiction of things without those of you thinking this is pure bull****. If you're offended I'm sorry. I'm trying to deal with this and get advice. Sorry man if that's a problem for you. I'd rather you accept my aploogy and try to offer constructive advice not derogatory comments. Thanks for your understanding.

I seriously don't know how to be more constructive. I have given you quite a few serious posts. Actually, they were all serious. GymMan, I'm not trying to be a complete toolshed, but your posts sometimes make that an inevitable theme of the responses. Take for example, this very thread. There isn't anything constructive about it. It's ranting.

And some of the stuff you say 🙄; like what you edited from post #32. I saw it before the edit.

There is nothing wrong with coming here and trying to work it out, but in almost every post, someone or something is out to destroy your chances. Whether it's your teachers, or other physicians, or your issues. You don't need any help from me to make what you do on here "look like a joke." When you present valid questions, I'm sure you'll get more positive answers.

 

[GymMan]

I seriously don't know how to be more constructive. I have given you quite a few serious posts. Actually, they were all serious. GymMan, I'm not trying to be a complete toolshed, but your posts sometimes make that an inevitable theme of the responses. Take for example, this very thread. There isn't anything constructive about it. It's ranting.

And some of the stuff you say 🙄; like what you edited from post #32. I saw it before the edit.

There is nothing wrong with coming here and trying to work it out, but in almost every post, someone or something is out to destroy your chances. Whether it's your teachers, or other physicians, or your issues. You don't need any help from me to make what you do on here "look like a joke." When you present valid questions, I'm sure you'll get more positive answers.

I edited because some of it, is how I feel at the moment emotionally but I know it's going to be misconstrued. I can't help that I vasilate how I feel because that's how it is in my world. I don't want to begin something I can't finish but can't let time elapse and miss the opportunity. Kind of like being hurt the night before the Super Bowl but having to play in it banged up. You know you won't do your best amd may lose due to it. Make more sense now?

 

[SkipeeB]

If you doubt yourself this much before even attempting to apply, you will fail. Confidence is the definitely the first step. You just don't see people showing up for class the first day and already freaking out that their going to fail. They all have confidence that they can do this. If you think you will fail, you will fail.

 

[NatCh]

You just don't see people showing up for class the first day and already freaking out that their going to fail.

That's day two.

 

[cool_vkb]

Been there done that. I'm not taking meds to go to school. If I can't naturally achieve this goal, then it's not sustainable nor for me in the long run.

honestly you are scaring the sh..t out of me with your posts & thoughts. iam glad you are still in the deciding process.

 

[PJAG]

honestly you are scaring the sh..t out of me with you posts & thoughts. iam glad you are still in the deciding process.

.....I am glad he's in the deciding process as well.

 

[Buspar]

All of your posts are so depressive!👎


I wish someone would put on your daily threads!

 

[Dr. Gangrene]

Although Mr. gym has some "different" threads, he is not spaming as some think. This is a public forum and within the limits set in TOS, you can ramble if you like.
Since he is not being inappropriate at this time, there is an easy way to solve what appears to be everyones dislike of his posts... IGNORE them.