Shelf Scores vs Step II CK?

[anotherpremed]

How do they compare? Are the questions similar?

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[2012mdc]

How do they compare? Are the questions similar?

I was told by a faculty member that if you multiply your shelf exam average by 3 it gives you an approximate idea of where you stand for Step 2. Is this accurate?

 

[hubo323]

I averaged probably around 77 for my shelves and still got a 262 on my CK. I think it's really school dependent. My school doesn't put too much emphasis on shelves and gives us no time to study for them (we take the tests either on a thursday or friday and must work that wednesday), so the shelf scores are not good predictors for CK.

The questions are very similar to CK.

 

[OveractiveBrain]

How do they compare? Are the questions similar?

People train with Uworld for shelves, people train with Uworld for step. The questions are almost identical. The format it the same. Confused if i mean between Uworld and shelves, Uworld and step, or shelves and step? Yeah. Because they are all alike.

Scores on shelves usually fail to adequately reflect performance on step. There are too many variables. For example, if you are working in the hospital 12 hours a day, 6 days a week on a medicine inpatient rotation and you have 2 days to study for the shelf, probably not going to be as prepared as if you studied for a full month for Step. Alternatively, you have to know vastly more details on Step (simply from the number of specialties evaluated) versus any one Shelf. Finally, certain shelves you may perform better on (90 on the Surgery, 68 on OB), so no one shelf can adequately prepare you for how you will do on Step.

A caveat. On my own score report, i was off the chart on Surgery and only average for OB/GYN. So maybe, and Im saying maybe, there is a good predictor of where you'll end up. The sum average, however, is based on performance of other students taking the exam.

Similar questions, no real useful correlation