shirtless for OMM?!

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TexasTriathlete said:
I've palpated many a pubic symphisis, but never for a class. This seems a little strange.
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Probably the toughest part about first year OMM was diagnosing and treating ilio/sacral and sacro/iliac problems. You'll spend a lot of time getting familiar with the pubic symphasis during that time 🙂.
 
theNEWgirl said:
touro CA told me today that they require guys to be shirtless and girls to wear sport bra during OMM? what the heck? why was I not informed about this at other DO interviews like DMU, Western, AZCOM, KCUMB ? :scared::scared::scared:
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That's pretty standard across the board.
 
I am sure it is one of those deals where you are nervous/shy/mortified at first, but then you just get used to it.
 
theNEWgirl said:
touro CA told me today that they require guys to be shirtless and girls to wear sport bra during OMM? what the heck? why was I not informed about this at other DO interviews like DMU, Western, AZCOM, KCUMB ? :scared::scared::scared:
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so? have you ever been to the BEACH?

if you get embarrassed about this, how in the heck will you do a vaginal exam with a straight face?
 
Did you guys hear about that dentist that is being sued by 27 women because he would go up their shirts and bras and feel them up every single visit? He claims that there is a technique that will "improve the TMJ" or something like that.

We don't learn this stuff and some dentist is feeling the breasts of all his women patients to treat the JAW??? what a quack.

Maybe in dentistry school they are going shirtless and braless in dental lab.
 
NjD00 said:
Did you guys hear about that dentist that is being sued by 27 women because he would go up their shirts and bras and feel them up every single visit? He claims that there is a technique that will "improve the TMJ" or something like that.

We don't learn this stuff and some dentist is feeling the breasts of all his women patients to treat the JAW??? what a quack.

Maybe in dentistry school they are going shirtless and braless in dental lab.
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I think he claimed there is some published research connecting TMJ problems with muscles in the chest. It's pretty funny, since he was probably scrambling for any type of scientific evidence to help him out. He lucked out. I still think he's screwed, but it's hilarious he could find anything to even somewhat justify his actions.
 
Technoviking has only 3 modes: Walk, Dance, and Kill

Technoviking doesn't dance to music, the music dances to Technoviking

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
This sounds like my kind of place.
 
theNEWgirl said:
touro CA told me today that they require guys to be shirtless and girls to wear sport bra during OMM? what the heck? why was I not informed about this at other DO interviews like DMU, Western, AZCOM, KCUMB ? :scared::scared::scared:
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Because at DMU, we don't go shirtless.
 
You get over the "OMG I'm shirtless and exposed to everyone!" in about six second when you look around the room and realize most of the people aren't Abercrombie models and we've all neglected the gym for grades.
 
I know this is an old thread, but if you read some of the stuff here it's distrurbing. So you basically have to get half naked and feel each other up in very weird ways? Manipualtiong someones pubic area? WTF. 😕
 
kgpremed11 said:
I know this is an old thread, but if you read some of the stuff here it's distrurbing. So you basically have to get half naked and feel each other up in very weird ways? Manipualtiong someones pubic area? WTF. 😕
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Grow up. As a med student/physician you will be doing much more invasive techniques into "personal" space. You be professional, learn what you can, power through it, thank your partner, and move on. Nobody gives a ****.
 
SDN thread necromancy will never cease to amaze me. Kind of funny to think that someone who was entering med school when this thread was born is now a second-year resident.

But yeah, I kind of look forward to getting used to touching people. I think that it will help me be a more confident and competent physician on top of any benefits of actually knowing OMM.
 
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DrWily said:
Grow up. As a med student/physician you will be doing much more invasive techniques into "personal" space. You be professional, learn what you can, power through it, thank your partner, and move on. Nobody gives a ****.
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👍

i just don't get this guy... does he just have a huge personal space bubble?
maybe it's just because i'm a rugby player (#5 where i have one girls head next to my bum and my hand grabbing onto another one's crotch) these seems like NBD to me.
:shrug:
 
I wore a t-shirt and gym shorts. Usually people would just pull their shirt up to expose their back. It's not a big deal.
 
Ok srs question- Do I have to shave my legs and stuff for OMM class? I'm Mediterranean, and come from a long line of bearded women..
 
fluoropHore said:
Ok srs question- Do I have to shave my legs and stuff for OMM class? I'm Mediterranean, and come from a long line of bearded women..
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you don't HAVE to do ****. hopefully by the time a man gets to medical school he has figured out that women grow leg hair and can get over it.
 
drwily said:
grow up. As a med student/physician you will be doing much more invasive techniques into "personal" space. You be professional, learn what you can, power through it, thank your partner, and move on. Nobody gives a ****.
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+1
 
Does omm make you better at physical exams in general
 
Feeling vulnerable having to have someone look at your body and touch it?
Now you know how patients feel.
 
MedPR said:
I'd imagine it helps with palpation skills?
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That and being cognizant of some of the somatic manifestations of visceral disease processes makes the likelihood of getting the correct diagnosis higher it can also make diagnosis faster/more efficient, but I make no claim on just how much of an advantage that can be. Every physician has strengths and weaknesses etc.

Just don't let this degrade into an MD vs DO thing OK!
 
JaBoomDay said:
Feeling vulnerable having to have someone look at your body and touch it?
Now you know how patients feel.
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Are you suggesting that we try and empathize with our patients?
Silly lady
:wink:

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JaBoomDay said:
Feeling vulnerable having to have someone look at your body and touch it?
Now you know how patients feel.
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Suuuuuuuuch a good point. Thank you 😀
 
touchpause13 said:
you don't HAVE to do ****. hopefully by the time a man gets to medical school he has figured out that women grow leg hair and can get over it.
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DrWily said:
Grow up. As a med student/physician you will be doing much more invasive techniques into "personal" space. You be professional, learn what you can, power through it, thank your partner, and move on. Nobody gives a ****.
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👍

I come from a sports medicine background. As an intern I was working with an athlete who's rehabilitation plan included STM/ART for a high adductor strain. I really didn't think much about it. I guess I was just older and more mature than most of the other interns so it didn't phase me that I would be working in "that" region of the persons body. While working the patient I looked over and noticed two younger interns watching and laughing. Was pretty unprofessional to say the least. Things like this can be just as uncomfortable for the patients as it is for us (in the beginning if you arent use to touching patients). It's time to put the big boy/girl pants on.
 
touchpause13 said:
If u have something to say to me just say it

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It's ok it was harmless. It was just something along the lines of saying you were tough.
 
abolt18 said:
It's ok it was harmless. It was just something along the lines of saying you were tough.
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Oh ok, I actually take that as a compliment
I was worried it was something homophobic

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touchpause13 said:
Oh ok, I actually take that as a compliment
I was worried it was something homophobic

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Dude you and I would not get along in real life. Actually, with that chip on your shoulder, I don't see how anybody could get along with you.
 
I have good news for both of you. You don't have to get along!
 
SLC said:
That and being cognizant of some of the somatic manifestations of visceral disease processes makes the likelihood of getting the correct diagnosis higher it can also make diagnosis faster/more efficient, but I make no claim on just how much of an advantage that can be. Every physician has strengths and weaknesses etc.

Just don't let this degrade into an MD vs DO thing OK!
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Is that something you learn exclusively in OMM class or is it integrated into the non-OMM parts of your curriculum?
 
Remedy for PMS would be midol/pamprin not tampys.

But seeing how I don't get periods ur post is both sexist and irrelevent. Good job 👍

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MedPR said:
Is that something you learn exclusively in OMM class or is it integrated into the non-OMM parts of your curriculum?
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OMM yo.

Asthma = TART in T2-T5 lol (only one I know so far 🙁 )
 
DrWily said:
OMM yo.

Asthma = TART in T2-T5 lol (only one I know so far 🙁 )
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What's TART? I'm going to ask my M3 MD SO if she knows about this.
 
MedPR said:
What's TART? I'm going to ask my M3 MD SO if she knows about this.
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Uhm..

T = Tenderness
A = Asymmetry
R = Restriction of Motion
T = Tissue Texture changes


I had to look it up. My OMM professor would be disappoint in me.
 
MedPR said:
What's TART? I'm going to ask my M3 MD SO if she knows about this.
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Tissue Texture Changes
Asymmetry
Restriction (range of motion reduction, fascial binding etc)
Tenderness

Basically these are the indications for OMM.

Visceral disease processes can be associated with some of this stuff, mainly Tissue Texture Changes and Tenderness IMO.

So during your PE, you might be looking for some of these things as a pertinent positive or negative to help you determine the diagnosis. Sometimes tenderness or changes in the tissue texture on palpation can give away an underlying visceral pathology.

You know, like when you're having an MI, why does your Jaw and Shoulder often hurt? It's the same concept expanded to other organ systems.

Edit: DrWily beat me to it.
 
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