Should I apply directly to LECOM-B DO? Currently accepted to the Masters

[JAC100]

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Hi guys,

Just want some advice on this matter. Will it look bad if I apply directly to the DO school after being accepted to the MS program with the linkage? I want to end up at LECOM-B after the MS so I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to apply now. However my stats seem below average. 3.01 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA and 500 MCAT. Should I bother applying to the DO school?

Please give me your thoughts, especially if you go to LECOM.

 

[Alienman52]

Hi guys,

Just want some advice on this matter. Will it look bad if I apply directly to the DO school after being accepted to the MS program with the linkage? I want to end up at LECOM-B after the MS so I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to apply now. However my stats seem below average. 3.01 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA and 500 MCAT. Should I bother applying to the DO school?

Please give me your thoughts, especially if you go to LECOM.

Howdy!

I wouldn’t apply to the DO school right now - I would absolutely destroy the masters and then apply! I don’t quite see an acceptance there with the current stats. Not impossible by any means, but statistically the likelihood is low.

Destroy that MS then apply! I’m no expert on what kind of linkage the program has but if you do well enough in the MS (3.65+) then that’ll definitely help!

Whatever you decide to do, good luck.


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[BorntobeDO?]

Hi guys,

Just want some advice on this matter. Will it look bad if I apply directly to the DO school after being accepted to the MS program with the linkage? I want to end up at LECOM-B after the MS so I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to apply now. However my stats seem below average. 3.01 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA and 500 MCAT. Should I bother applying to the DO school?

Please give me your thoughts, especially if you go to LECOM.

That GPA won't do it at LECOM unless your URM, and even then, I think its too low. You need to do well in the linkage and try to leverage that into an acceptance, it will likely take more than one try even then. Now there are some other schools that might take a look at you in the DO world (ARCOM, NYIT-AR, BCOM, ICOM, PCOM Moultry etc). Most of these schools I would avoid if you could with the possible exception of ARCOM. Either way, I don't think your competative right now for this, need that science GPA above 3.0 at the very least, and preferably 3.4. I don't know that you can do all that in a year, but I wish you good luck.

 

[Peach Newport]

That GPA won't do it at LECOM unless your URM, and even then, I think its too low. You need to do well in the linkage and try to leverage that into an acceptance, it will likely take more than one try even then. Now there are some other schools that might take a look at you in the DO world (ARCOM, NYIT-AR, BCOM, ICOM, PCOM Moultry etc). Most of these schools I would avoid if you could with the possible exception of ARCOM. Either way, I don't think your competative right now for this, need that science GPA above 3.0 at the very least, and preferably 3.4. I don't know that you can do all that in a year, but I wish you good luck.

I sincerely doubt any DO school will give much consideration to those state tbh. Masters is realistically the best bet +/- mcat retake.

 

[mathnerd88]

Just also a word of caution, masters programs with the linkage at some places may actually be more difficult than the DO program itself.

OP, make sure you're on your toes and ready to grind down and study if you're pursuing the Masters program. You'll have to do very well to get into a DO program.

 

[rhodesfb17]

I got into an average DO school with similar stats. 3.1 cgpa, 2.8 Sgpa, 506 MCAT. It was my instate school but worth a shot to me.

Regardless stick in there. Once you get in a school your undergrad means nothing. I’m a current third year and doing way better then I did in college.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Hi guys,

Just want some advice on this matter. Will it look bad if I apply directly to the DO school after being accepted to the MS program with the linkage? I want to end up at LECOM-B after the MS so I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to apply now. However my stats seem below average. 3.01 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA and 500 MCAT. Should I bother applying to the DO school?

Please give me your thoughts, especially if you go to LECOM.

Hey OP,

I had basically the same stats as you (3.02 cGPA and 2.97 sGPA with a 500 MCAT) and applied directly to LECOM B and got shuffled to the MMS after being rejected. I finished the MMS and got accepted.

The program is tough but holy crap am I thankful for it. The program is not necessarily harder but it is more stressful. The margin of error is so slight that you have to be on your A game the entire time in the MMS but once you get to the medical school you can relax and enjoy learning. The study habits that you develop if you do it correctly are life changing. I agree with MathNerd88 that you should really bear down and crush it because this is just a chance its not a guarantee.

 

[JAC100]

Hey OP,

I had basically the same stats as you (3.02 cGPA and 2.97 sGPA with a 500 MCAT) and applied directly to LECOM B and got shuffled to the MMS after being rejected. I finished the MMS and got accepted.

The program is tough but holy crap am I thankful for it. The program is not necessarily harder but it is more stressful. The margin of error is so slight that you have to be on your A game the entire time in the MMS but once you get to the medical school you can relax and enjoy learning. The study habits that you develop if you do it correctly are life changing. I agree with MathNerd88 that you should really bear down and crush it because this is just a chance its not a guarantee.

Thanks for your feedback bro! Yeah I've heard its hard, makes sense since you need to prove yourself. Im up for it. Do you know what the GPA to get is?, I keep seeing mixed messages. Some say 3.2, some say 3.4. Not that I care, even if its 3.5 I just want to know lol

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Thanks for your feedback bro! Yeah I've heard its hard, makes sense since you need to prove yourself. Im up for it. Do you know what the GPA to get is?, I keep seeing mixed messages. Some say 3.2, some say 3.4. Not that I care, even if its 3.5 I just want to know lol

It's kinda up in the air. They don't tell you exactly what GPA will get you in. What I gathered with my class (2019) was that if you had 3.4+ at the time of the interview (January) you were conditionally accepted with the conditions that you did not make less than a 75% in any class and that you kept above a 3.3 GPA. So the goal should be to have 3.5+ in January so you can cruise through the spring semester. I interviewed with a 3.7 and finished with a 3.5.

If you weren't originally accepted, those that had above a 3.2 were accepted after graduation. The stats were like 55 total were going to be applying med, 33 got interviewed, and 30 got accepted.

 

[MedDoc305]

Hi guys,

Just want some advice on this matter. Will it look bad if I apply directly to the DO school after being accepted to the MS program with the linkage? I want to end up at LECOM-B after the MS so I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to apply now. However my stats seem below average. 3.01 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA and 500 MCAT. Should I bother applying to the DO school?

Please give me your thoughts, especially if you go to LECOM.

I'm confused as to your question. I assume you would be applying this upcoming cycle and not the one we're in right now. If you are in the master's program in July and apply to LECOM, your application will be placed on hold until January of next year when they are able to see your master's grade. They will no longer consider you as an independent applicant the moment you start the masters.

Edit: If that is the case I would wait to start the master's program before submitting your application to LECOM as you don't want to accidentally be denied before you even start the program.

 

[MedDoc305]

Thanks for your feedback bro! Yeah I've heard its hard, makes sense since you need to prove yourself. Im up for it. Do you know what the GPA to get is?, I keep seeing mixed messages. Some say 3.2, some say 3.4. Not that I care, even if its 3.5 I just want to know lol

For my year, 2019-2020 the GPA for the interview was 3.3. I believe everyone above a 3.4 that had the required MCAT was accepted.

 

[JAC100]

It's kinda up in the air. They don't tell you exactly what GPA will get you in. What I gathered with my class (2019) was that if you had 3.4+ at the time of the interview (January) you were conditionally accepted with the conditions that you did not make less than a 75% in any class and that you kept above a 3.3 GPA. So the goal should be to have 3.5+ in January so you can cruise through the spring semester. I interviewed with a 3.7 and finished with a 3.5.

If you weren't originally accepted, those that had above a 3.2 were accepted after graduation. The stats were like 55 total were going to be applying med, 33 got interviewed, and 30 got accepted.

thanks bro! I’m gonna aim for 3.4+ then

 

[Goro]

Hi guys,

Just want some advice on this matter. Will it look bad if I apply directly to the DO school after being accepted to the MS program with the linkage? I want to end up at LECOM-B after the MS so I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to apply now. However my stats seem below average. 3.01 cGPA, 2.8 sGPA and 500 MCAT. Should I bother applying to the DO school?

Please give me your thoughts, especially if you go to LECOM.

It wouldn't look bad, but they don't need the donation in app fees, because you're an autoreject with those numbers. You need to prove to them (and yourself) that you can handle med school.

 

[JAC100]

For my year, 2019-2020 the GPA for the interview was 3.3. I believe everyone above a 3.4 that had the required MCAT was accepted.

That’s reasonable. do they tell us I’m that in orientation?

 

[GoSpursGo]

Moving to What are my Chances.

 

[JAC100]

It wouldn't look bad, but they don't need the donation in app fees, because you're an autoreject with those numbers. You need to prove to them (and yourself) that you can handle med school.

thanks bro! I agree gotta prove myself

 

[MedDoc305]

That’s reasonable. do they tell us I’m that in orientation?

They will never tell you outright what GPA you should get to be accepted. They do tell you the minimum GPA for an interview and what the average is of everyone who received an interview/were accepted.

 

[JAC100]

They will never tell you outright what GPA you should get to be accepted. They do tell you the minimum GPA for an interview and what the average is of everyone who received an interview/were accepted.

oh ok, thanks man that’s really helpful! looking forward to doing the best possible in the program

 

[JAC100]

They will never tell you outright what GPA you should get to be accepted. They do tell you the minimum GPA for an interview and what the average is of everyone who received an interview/were accepted.

One more question I have, how much more difficult has the med school been compared to the MMS?

 

[MedDoc305]

One more question I have, how much more difficult has the med school been compared to the MMS?

That is a question for @TarpolianDynamite . I am just finishing the masters

 

[JAC100]

That is a question for @TarpolianDynamite . I am just finishing the masters

Oh ok, congrats on finishing 🙂

 

[JAC100]

It's kinda up in the air. They don't tell you exactly what GPA will get you in. What I gathered with my class (2019) was that if you had 3.4+ at the time of the interview (January) you were conditionally accepted with the conditions that you did not make less than a 75% in any class and that you kept above a 3.3 GPA. So the goal should be to have 3.5+ in January so you can cruise through the spring semester. I interviewed with a 3.7 and finished with a 3.5.

If you weren't originally accepted, those that had above a 3.2 were accepted after graduation. The stats were like 55 total were going to be applying med, 33 got interviewed, and 30 got accepted.

Tarpolian, one more question, how difficult in comparison to the medical is the MMS? Just curious

 

[Goro]

One more question I have, how much more difficult has the med school been compared to the MMS?

From seeing what is taught in our SMP compare to our med school, I estimate an SMP is about 1/2 to 1/3rd of med school. Our SMP is basically a single semester of the basic sciences given normally in one semester spread out over a single year.

 

[JAC100]

From seeing what is taught in our SMP compare to our med school, I estimate an SMP is about 1/2 to 1/3rd of med school. Our SMP is basically a single semester of the basic sciences given normally in one semester spread out over a single year.

Thats pretty good. Im gonna assume the same for LECOMs program. Goro what is your thoughts on LECOM-Bs PBL curriculum and possibility of doing an internal med residency in Miami afterwards?

 

[Goro]

Goro what is your thoughts on LECOM-Bs PBL curriculum and possibility of doing an internal med residency in Miami afterwards?

Have no idea about the first, The second is 100% on you.
First get INTO medical school, and then worry about residency.

 

[TarpolianDynamite]

Tarpolian, one more question, how difficult in comparison to the medical is the MMS? Just curious

Difficulty is very subjective. I would say that they are about the same in overall difficulty but for different reasons. The MMS is like a sink or swim crash course that will burn you out but will give you a realllly solid foundation for your first year. Med is more of your traditional just learn, read, relearn, take a test, and repeat. I was more stressed in the MMS but I have more work now in the med program.

 

[lily2159]

Thanks for your feedback bro! Yeah I've heard its hard, makes sense since you need to prove yourself. Im up for it. Do you know what the GPA to get is?, I keep seeing mixed messages. Some say 3.2, some say 3.4. Not that I care, even if its 3.5 I just want to know lol

I would finish the masters program first so you can raise your GPA. I was on a DO virtual fair with them a few months ago and this is what they posted as the GPA acceptance.

Erie: Overall GPA-3.67 Science GPA- 3.61 MCAT- 506 AIS-120

Seton Hill: Overall GPA- 3.58 Science GPA- 3.55 MCAT- 506 AIS- 123

Bradenton: Overall GPA-3.78 Science GPA- 3.76 MCAT- 505 AIS-123

LECOM Elmira: No data available as first entering class will be in 2020

 

[wet_blanket_]

I have close friends at LECOM and several of them did the master's program. They actually find that it was very helpful for their success in their first year of medical school, so maybe it would be beneficial anyway for you before entering medical school 🙂 From what I understand, at LECOM, if you meet whatever their standards are, you are guaranteed a spot. Seems like a pretty good deal to me, especially if the coursework will be helpful later on.

 

[substatus]

I got into an average DO school with similar stats. 3.1 cgpa, 2.8 Sgpa, 506 MCAT. It was my instate school but worth a shot to me.

Regardless stick in there. Once you get in a school your undergrad means nothing. I’m a current third year and doing way better then I did in college.

How early did you apply? I applied super late this cycle (December) and received 2 II's with one waitlist. I have similar stats with a 3.3 cgpa, 3.1 sgpa, but 500 mcat. I want to reapply right now but am unsure if thats wise since not much has changed other than much more clinical hours and volunteer work. I'm thinking of doing a program but they're so expensive and taking DIY post bacc classes barely boost the gpa, especially since I've already taken many upper level science courses.

Do you think it's ok to reapply without a program? Or if I do sign up, can I still apply now even though I don't have the grades from the masters