Should I apply to Meharry ?

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I know for a fact that Meharry Dental school accepts the vast majority to be URM( minorities).

But I am not too sure if I would be considered. I am an Egyptian and I identify myself on the application as Black/African-American. I was born in Egypt as well.

Any suggestions? Should I add this school or not? I do not want to waste my money if they won't even consider me.

Thanks.
 
I think that would still count as a URM. Even if it doesn't, the school doesn't exclusively accept URMs. If you like Meharry, then apply.
 
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I would definitely do it!! Meharry is a great school. I just started as a d1 and our class is great. A mixture of black (aa, Caribbeans, Africans), Hispanics, probably middle eastern people, and Caucasian. They really did a good job of making a diverse class imo
 
I personally wouldn't apply there. No disrespect to any Meharry students or faculty of course, but I personally spoke with an unnamed high up faculty there recently and he said they had the worst board passing rates of every single dental school this past year, like 4 out of 40 students passed.
 
I personally wouldn't apply there. No disrespect to any Meharry students or faculty of course, but I personally spoke with an unnamed high up faculty there recently and he said they had the worst board passing rates of every single dental school this past year, like 4 out of 40 students passed.
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Well that's not what we're hearing from the current students
 
During our lectures, prof will relay important topics for board exams and they show us specific examples of their material showing up on the boards. If people don't pass then they probably needed to study more.
 
I know for a fact that Meharry Dental school accepts the vast majority to be URM( minorities).

But I am not too sure if I would be considered. I am an Egyptian and I identify myself on the application as Black/African-American. I was born in Egypt as well.

Any suggestions? Should I add this school or not? I do not want to waste my money if they won't even consider me.

Thanks.

8087, member: 695370"]I know for a fact that Meharry Dental school accepts the vast majority to be URM( minorities).

But I am not too sure if I would be considered. I am an Egyptian and I identify myself on the application as Black/African-American. I was born in Egypt as well.

Any suggestions? Should I add this school or not? I do not want to waste my money if they won't even consider me.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]
It shows poor character if you are a white or arab and trying to pass yourself off as an African-American/black. This is for Negroes.
You should apply for what you are by race. You are not a minority, so apply as white not African American which is synonymous with black or Negro.
 
8087, member: 695370"]I know for a fact that Meharry Dental school accepts the vast majority to be URM( minorities).

But I am not too sure if I would be considered. I am an Egyptian and I identify myself on the application as Black/African-American. I was born in Egypt as well.

Any suggestions? Should I add this school or not? I do not want to waste my money if they won't even consider me.

Thanks.
It shows poor character if you are a white or arab and trying to pass yourself off as an African-American/black. This is for Negroes.
You should apply for what you are by race. You are not a minority, so apply as white not African American which is synonymous with black or Negro.[/QUOTE]

No offense. But if you do know your geography correctly. Egypt is in Africa... Therefore the only option that closely relates to Egyptians would be Black/African American.

Some Arabs do see themselves as "white". Which is politically correct by US standards. But I do not think it shows poor sense of self?

I think that was a really ignorant comment to state as well as saying that the only way you can be black or African is by your skin color?? Which is certainly not true.

Especially since South Africa has a vast population who skin color is white and are considered African Americans.

Sorry, I just get mad at stupid and uneducated comments that have no sense of explanation and value to my question 🙂
 
No offense. But if you do know your geography correctly. Egypt is in Africa... Therefore the only option that closely relates to Egyptians would be Black/African American.

Some Arabs do see themselves as "white". Which is politically correct by US standards. But I do not think it shows poor sense of self?

I think that was a really ignorant comment to state as well as saying that the only way you can be black or African is by your skin color?? Which is certainly not true.

Especially since South Africa has a vast population who skin color is white and are considered African Americans.

Sorry, I just get mad at stupid and uneducated comments that have no sense of explanation and value to my question 🙂
But you see, African American does not simply mean "I am from the African continent and now I am an American." That is why white South Africans in the US are NOT considered African American, and likely, neither are you.

Most definitions of African American go something like this: "African Americans, also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, is an ethnic group of citizens or residents of the United States with total or partial ancestry from any of the native populations of Sub-Saharan Africa."

Egyptians are not a native population of Sub-Saharan Africa.

White South Africans are not native populations of Sub-Saharan Africa.

There are a whole bunch of reasons people will not agree with your checking the Black/African American box...

But to answer your original question, apply to Meharry if you would like to go to Meharry. Simple as that. If you get an interview there, don't be surprised if someone raises an eyebrow at your race designation and/or asks you to explain (unless it's mentioned in your PS).
 
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I personally wouldn't apply there. No disrespect to any Meharry students or faculty of course, but I personally spoke with an unnamed high up faculty there recently and he said they had the worst board passing rates of every single dental school this past year, like 4 out of 40 students passed.
I don't know the pass rates, but I can add another data point. My personal dentist is on the TN board of dentistry and does a lot of work with the exams. This person told me straight up not to apply to Meharry cause they weren't prepared.

I was shadowing another dentist on the board. He just retired last year and is now trying to spend more time at Meharry, seeing what he can do to help.

I'm sure it's a fixable problem, but I'm not applying there.
 
I don't know the pass rates, but I can add another data point. My personal dentist is on the TN board of dentistry and does a lot of work with the exams. This person told me straight up not to apply to Meharry cause they weren't prepared.

I was shadowing another dentist on the board. He just retired last year and is now trying to spend more time at Meharry, seeing what he can do to help.

I'm sure it's a fixable problem, but I'm not applying there.


Very interesting. Never was aware... I will have to call the school and see what is up with their curriculum.
 
Very interesting. Never was aware... I will have to call the school and see what is up with their curriculum.
I want to say a couple things here because I don't want to be insensitive to any current Meharry students, or prospective students whose only option is Meharry, or much less any faculty/staff who endlessly labor to repair Meharry. Ya I mean it's not to say anyone that is currently there should panic, or that no one should apply there, but the board passing rates definitely is something to be aware of, and something that should be respectfully but directly discussed by any student interviewing there.

My hunch is certainly that the low board passing rates has got much more to do with the level of students and less to do with the faculty - thus if you are a great student I would assume you have less to worry about. Such a hunch is difficult to prove, and although we all know from basic stats class that correlation does not imply causation, one still wonders about the connection between being a minority school (and thus having less competitive matriculants) and decreased academic performance. Although hard to quantify, it darn sure appeals to common sense to put up Howard and Meharry's low academics more to accepting less competitive students who are minorities than to the faculty attempting to train said students. You gotta be honest about who they have to work with, on top of what is already difficult material to pass.

So I want to be clear that I'm not criticizing the institution as much as the philosophy behind the institution (accepting less competitive minorities). Now, I'm not saying I disagree with this philosophy - I actually think it's extremely noble, helpful, and downright necessary to the increasing diversification of the society at large, and specifically in the professional medical community. Look, since I went back to school to pursue dental, although my pride would say otherwise the fact is I only have a 3.8 BCP GPA and DAT AA of 21 because my wife made enough money working as a nurse this past year and a half to allow me to focus all on studies without working. So I understand that the Hispanic kid that had to work 30 hours a week at the convenience store while helping watch his 2 cousins in the projects throughout the week is probably going to have less competitive stats than me - and as such there is a degree to which he deserves a shot at dental school too. Now, to what degree we could argue all day - I mean I don't care how hard your life has been, if you have a 2.1 GPA and 14 AA on your DAT you shouldn't be in dental school anywhere, but I think there's some middle ground there where it's good and helpful to give some minorities with lower stats a chance. But my (or anyone else's) personal approval of a school accepting less competitive minorities does not withdraw such an establishment from what will likely be a scholastic downfall from the decision. So ultimately, given Meharry's educational philosophy, they must implicitly accept any of this type of criticism I or anyone else may have toward them.

Sorry for the ramble, I just know how brutal this entire pre-req/DAT/application process has been to me and I wanna make sure not to discourage anyone stoked about their Meharry interview/acceptance. If that's you - be encouraged to work hard and prove this wrong! I'm sure the school is improving.
 
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It shows poor character if you are a white or arab and trying to pass yourself off as an African-American/black. This is for Negroes.
You should apply for what you are by race. You are not a minority, so apply as white not African American which is synonymous with black or Negro.[/QUOTE]

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I would definitely do it!! Meharry is a great school. I just started as a d1 and our class is great. A mixture of black (aa, Caribbeans, Africans), Hispanics, probably middle eastern people, and Caucasian. They really did a good job of making a diverse class imo

Can you give an approximate breakdown of the various races?
 
Can you give an approximate breakdown of the various races?

It is your basic Hispanic races and different list of Hispanic races.
Asian( with different variations from Pakistani to Japan )
Black/African American
White
American Indian
 
It is your basic Hispanic races and different list of Hispanic races.
Asian( with different variations from Pakistani to Japan )
Black/African American
White
American Indian

I guess I meant numbers, are there 6 Asians, 14 Black/African Americans, 3 white, etc.?
 
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