Should I use my student loans to buy a new watch?

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So here's the scoop: I have a full ride to school and don't need money. However, I recently found I am eligible to receive student loans on top of that at a good interest rate. Therefor, here's the question:

Rolex Submariner

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Or...

Bvlgari Diagono Professional 2000m

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Seems like it would be kind of a waste to take out special loans just to purchase a stupidly-expensive watch. Also I think you'd look like a tool sporting a Rolex as a med student (especially when you have to take out loans JUST for it). You're also going to be paying a lot more than the price tag for that watch after you pay all of the interest.

But do what you want, don't let anyone on here tell you what to do.
 
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1. I'm pretty sure using loans for unapproved (i.e. non-school related) expenditures is illegal.

2. And more importantly (coming from someone with a watch collection) -- both of those watches are incredibly too mainstream (especially the Rolex). If you're going to spend that kind of money on a watch, get one that's actually worth the money.
 
Also I think you'd look like a tool sporting a Rolex as a med student (especially when you have to take out loans JUST for it).

Agreed. Not necessarily because you're a med student, but because you had to take out loans to pay for a watch.
 
Agreed. Not necessarily because you're a med student, but because you had to take out loans to pay for a watch.

Although nobody would know you took out loans to pay for it, it would be quite a "douchey" thing to do.
 
buy/lease one of these instead:

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That watch isn't going to impress anyone; the haters will just say it's a folex The car though can be useful. Girls love convertibles.
 
Another note. If the loans are through the school you will not be allowed to loan more than the Cost of Attendance. So if your Cost of attendance is already covered by scholarships this means you can't take out any loan that requires authorization from the office of financial aid at your school. These include Stafford, Grad Plus, and Perkins.
 
Another note. If the loans are through the school you will not be allowed to loan more than the Cost of Attendance. So if your Cost of attendance is already covered by scholarships this means you can't take out any loan that requires authorization from the office of financial aid at your school. These include Stafford, Grad Plus, and Perkins.

Yeah. This. "QFT" a term I just learned... and I thought I was internet savvy...
 
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Do people even wear watches anymore? Or is it like man jewelry?

Are you serious? Yes, people wear watches. Here's something that will astound you: some people wear nice watches. The steel Submariner 16610 in the picture is around $7,500 new.
 
1. I'm pretty sure using loans for unapproved (i.e. non-school related) expenditures is illegal.

2. And more importantly (coming from someone with a watch collection) -- both of those watches are incredibly too mainstream (especially the Rolex). If you're going to spend that kind of money on a watch, get one that's actually worth the money.

Based on that comment i am guessing your "collection" is a bunch of crap. The Rolex is the class of diving watches.
 
Forgot to add: OP, you're a poser for using student loans to buy a Rolex.
 
Are you serious? Yes, people wear watches. Here's something that will astound you: some people wear nice watches. The steel Submariner 16610 in the picture is around $7,500 new.

I will again reiterate....Rolex's are a rip-off
 
Based on that comment i am guessing your "collection" is a bunch of crap. The Rolex is the class of diving watches.

That doesn't take away from the fact that every 20-30 year old w/ a 6 figure salary sports them. Come back when the names Vacheron Constantin or Patek Philippe mean something to you.
 
Based on that comment i am guessing your "collection" is a bunch of crap. The Rolex is the class of diving watches.

False. Rolex's are for no-class businessmen who don't have the sense to spend their money wisely on something worthwhile. I'll guarantee you my watches are a hell of a lot nicer than this.

Also, Rolex is hardly the "class" of diving watches.

Edited to add: hahaha sorry Visionary...no disrespect intended.
 
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That doesn't take away from the fact that every 20-30 year old w/ a 6 figure salary sports them. Come back when the names Vacheron Constantin or Patek Philippe mean something to you.

My man. THIS guy knows what he's talking about.
 
Are you serious? Yes, people wear watches. Here's something that will astound you: some people wear nice watches. The steel Submariner 16610 in the picture is around $7,500 new.

A counterfeit cost around $75 new.
 
I think the Submariner is a pretty classic-looking watch. Simple, timeless. It has looked good for the last 50 years and it will look good for another 50 years.

That being said, the OP would be a major douscher to actually take out a loan to buy one.

Also, I picture several posters in this thread walking around with this strapped to their wrist while wearing their short white coats (Patek Phillippe ain't got **** on Jacob):

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Another note. If the loans are through the school you will not be allowed to loan more than the Cost of Attendance. So if your Cost of attendance is already covered by scholarships this means you can't take out any loan that requires authorization from the office of financial aid at your school. These include Stafford, Grad Plus, and Perkins.

OP's money probably isn't technically a scholarship (note the Army insignia), so loan money is likely available.

I don't care for either of those watches. Too metal on metal. I'll stick with my $30 Timex. It's digital, and I don't care if bodily fluids get on it.
 
That doesn't take away from the fact that every 20-30 year old w/ a 6 figure salary sports them. Come back when the names Vacheron Constantin or Patek Philippe mean something to you.

Whoever else wears them doesn't concern me. And we're talking watches that I can afford with student loans, not $200k+ ones. AND neither of them make diving watches.
 
How would the government even know?

+1

I agree. HOW would they even know?

Well I think there is a rule about investing the loan money...so while it is nearly impossible to enforce it still technically is illegal.

Looks down at steel Rolex Submariner on wrist.

Hey, at least I didn't take out loans to pay for it.

Yeah, it's a little different context here. There are plenty of kids in the class who sport Benzos or Beamers - I'm sure they come from a family rich enough to wear a Rolex, and that wouldn't be completely douchey (although you really have to question someone's motive to buy + wear such an expensive watch).

But taking out loans simply to purchase a symbol of status that obviously you can't afford in the first place is completely absurd.
 
I think the worst part is the expense of maintaining it and the absolute hassle of finding an authorized repair shop and then there is the cost.

That's the price you pay for a mechanical movement watch.

Mechanical watches (that keep good time) are among some of the most precise machines you can own.
 
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most.pathetic.sdn.thread.ever

(worse even than captainnerd instructing people in the handkerchief fold and bespoke suits. he actually got quite entertaining after a while)

OP - buy a watch that fits your current lifestyle. If you want a fancier one some day, spend your income on it, not loans.
 
1. I'm pretty sure using loans for unapproved (i.e. non-school related) expenditures is illegal.

2. And more importantly (coming from someone with a watch collection) -- both of those watches are incredibly too mainstream (especially the Rolex). If you're going to spend that kind of money on a watch, get one that's actually worth the money.

What if it were a personal expense? Would he be able to purchase it? Just curious.
 
Whoever else wears them doesn't concern me. And we're talking watches that I can afford with student loans, not $200k+ ones. AND neither of them make diving watches.
Not all Patek's and Vacheron (and other top end watches - Lange, AP) cost $200K...in fact, not many do. IWC makes some really good looking diving watches as does Panerai...both for about the same price as the Rolex. You could even pay less, get a Breitling or Bell&Ross and come out the end with a better quality watch. Obviously, I'm opinionated on the topic. I think buying any watch with a loan is a mistake though.

I think the worst part is the expense of maintaining it and the absolute hassle of finding an authorized repair shop and then there is the cost. That's the price you pay for a mechanical movement watch. Mechanical watches (that keep good time) are among some of the most precise machines you can own.
Right on both accounts.

What if it were a personal expense? Would he be able to purchase it? Just curious.
I really don't know for certain.
 
1. I'm pretty sure using loans for unapproved (i.e. non-school related) expenditures is illegal.

2. And more importantly (coming from someone with a watch collection) -- both of those watches are incredibly too mainstream (especially the Rolex). If you're going to spend that kind of money on a watch, get one that's actually worth the money.

You can use these loans for "living expenses." This includes anything you'd use a paycheck for (normally) but since you're not working, you use your loans. Some/most? students need a car/laptop/medical tools/etc during school, and they use their loans for that purpose.
 
A lot of loan money ends up as an alcohol/gastric juice concoction on bathroom floors and in elevators.
 
I know someone who used his student loans to purchase an engagement ring. No feds knocking down his door yet...just sayin
 
Why would anyone buy a Rolex anyway? Other than the fact it's a Rolex, it's not even worth what they charge. You can watches of much higher quality and actually look classy for similar or slightly higher prices.

So throw out some examples. The point of this thread wasn't to defend Rolex(even though, IMO, they are the best for the price in terms of quality, craftsmanship, durability, looks, and classic appeal). Omega Speedmaster, perhaps? Hell, if it's good enough for NASA it's good enough for me.
 
Are you serious? Yes, people wear watches. Here's something that will astound you: some people wear nice watches. The steel Submariner 16610 in the picture is around $7,500 new.

^ Correction, the Sub in the pic is NOT a steel version. The blue dial and bezel subs are ALWAYS white gold, hence the price is around 22k to 24k (check Rolex.com). OP if you were considering getting the Sub, get the used steel version with a V-serial or higher for around 5k. You can also opt for the non-date sub which I've seen go for $3800 (you can check for listings on Rolexforums.com). I would stay away from Sub ceramics, aka the new subs, because they'll run you over 8k easy.

Another correction, while the Rolex may be mainstream these days... that to me just proves how good they are. No wonder Rolex took precedent over Omega years back as the new benchmark. Also, Rolex's do hold their value, MUCH better than other brands - the demand for them are so high, and with each serial having a limited run, you can get back around ~80% of what you paid couple of years down the line.

Yet another correction, Rolex, as a brand, does make many other styles of watches that have nothing to do with diving, ie Daydate, Datejust, Explorer, GMT-II, etc. It just so happens that in the 60's Sean Connery wore the Sub in the Bond movies and so Rolex became famous for a diving watch/original 007 watch.

Enough with the corrections. OP, I would advise you NOT to get a Rolex off loans. The economy partly went to complete **** because of your type of mentality; and while you probably won't default on your loans, it's still a bad deal for you down the line because you'll end up paying more than what you should for the watch.

Plus, if you have to buy the sub on loans, boy you better have money saved up for repairs. God forbid something goes wrong (such as replacing a cracked crystal face) - good luck.
 
Why would anyone buy a Rolex anyway? Other than the fact it's a Rolex, it's not even worth what they charge. You can watches of much higher quality and actually look classy for similar or slightly higher prices.

They last decades

They appreciate in value

They are a status symbol

Why is this thread about Rolexes and not ANY OTHER BRAND? "Because people are too stupid to research hours and hours about which watch is minimally improved on this feature versus that?" No. That's a waste of time. Rolexes are awesome. Period. Redundant Period.

Still, a ridiculous thread. OP: Wait till you're a real doctor, THEN buy a nice watch. Until then, $20 ironmans from Academy sports are just as good. If you had enough money to blow on a watch already, GOOD for you.
 
Just to reiterate, you can only borrow government student loans up to the cost of attendance that your school sets. You cannot take out any money over that amount. Your school creates a COA based on tuition, fees, and then a generic living expenses budget. If your school allocates $20,000 for living expenses and you only plan to spend $10,000, you can either choose to take out LESS in loans or still take the full amount and use the remaining money for anything you want. After the bursar takes out your tuition and fees, the rest they give you is yours to spend however you want.

There are some approved student loan amount additions that you can apply for. These include things such as a laptop. At my school, if you get the extra loan money for the laptop you have to provide your receipt and buy it within a certain time frame. Unapproved student loan amount adjustments include consumer debt, car payments, or Rolexes.

So if you take out the full COA and want to spend it on other things, just take it out of your living expenses.

1. Take out full COA
2. Live in box
3. Buy Rolex
 
I felt bad that I was going to use around $5000 of my loans next year for dental work- this makes me not feel so guilty.
 
So throw out some examples. The point of this thread wasn't to defend Rolex(even though, IMO, they are the best for the price in terms of quality, craftsmanship, durability, looks, and classic appeal). Omega Speedmaster, perhaps? Hell, if it's good enough for NASA it's good enough for me.
Like I said: "to each his own." Everyone is entitled to their own taste. My original comment was only meant to get you to look into other watch brands that are considered to be of considerably higher craftsmanship and that will hold their value better than a modern Rolex. Vintage Rolex is an entirely different story - they use to manufacture all parts of their watches in-house. Now they buy their parts from multiple suppliers and just assemble them. My suggestions are IWC and Panerai, with Bell&Ross, Ulysse Nardin in a distant 3rd.

Another correction, while the Rolex may be mainstream these days... that to me just proves how good they are. No wonder Rolex took precedent over Omega years back as the new benchmark. Also, Rolex's do hold their value, MUCH better than other brands - the demand for them are so high, and with each serial having a limited run, you can get back around ~80% of what you paid couple of years down the line.
Them being mainstream doesn't say anything about current quality. It speaks of excellent marketing and a good reputation in the past. I'm not saying their crappy - just that for the money, you can get higher quality watches that you also won't see 75% of your peers wearing in the future.

They last decades

They appreciate in value

They are a status symbol
They do last a long time, I'll give you that, but so does any mechanical watch that is well maintained and properly cared-for. They absolutely do not appreciate in value unless you're referencing some extremely rare limited edition (like Patek with multiple complications - Tourbullion, minute repeater, etc). Very few watches appreciate in value unless they are limited editions. At very best, a $7000 Rolex will be worth less in the future than what it was purchased for.
 
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So here's the scoop: I have a full ride to school and don't need money. However, I recently found I am eligible to receive student loans on top of that at a good interest rate. Therefor, here's the question:

Rolex Submariner

rolex-submariner.jpg


Or...

Bvlgari Diagono Professional 2000m

BvlgariDiagonoProfessionalScubaD-2.jpg

meh.ro7434.jpg
 
Just to reiterate, you can only borrow government student loans up to the cost of attendance that your school sets. You cannot take out any money over that amount. Your school creates a COA based on tuition, fees, and then a generic living expenses budget. If your school allocates $20,000 for living expenses and you only plan to spend $10,000, you can either choose to take out LESS in loans or still take the full amount and use the remaining money for anything you want. After the bursar takes out your tuition and fees, the rest they give you is yours to spend however you want.

There are some approved student loan amount additions that you can apply for. These include things such as a laptop. At my school, if you get the extra loan money for the laptop you have to provide your receipt and buy it within a certain time frame. Unapproved student loan amount adjustments include consumer debt, car payments, or Rolexes.

So if you take out the full COA and want to spend it on other things, just take it out of your living expenses.

1. Take out full COA
2. Live in box
3. Buy Rolex

I already have everything else I need, a full ride to school, and a healthy monthly stipend that is more than enough to live on. I wouldn't live in a box, I'd live just fine. I'd just take out 8k or so this year and then repay it as a resident.
 
Pardon my ignorance, but as someone who has spent silly money on things most people don't understand, I'm genuinely curious: do these things actually do anything special or is it mostly a status symbol? Educate me.
 
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