SIR meeting for medical students.

[Gvataken]

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Hello, all we are trying to plan some events at the annual meeting for medical students and residents this year. The society of interventional radiology annual meeting is in chicago this year between march 26th and 31st. Check out the sirweb.org to learn more. I would like some input as to what medical students would be interested in? And I also would be interested in what kind of events that the residents would want.

Some of the SIR residents are working on the curriculum for medical students and residents. But, I would be interested in seeing what students and residents on the forum would be interested in.

Please feel free to post or pm me .

V

 

[AggieMD]

Interactive activities
Procedure videos/presentations
Q&A with residents/fellows/attendings/private

 

[Gvataken]

thanks for the post, very useful suggestions.

we are trying to develop some panel discussions :

for medical students we are coordinating a radiology resident/program director panel (hopefully) how to apply to radiology or IR I am hoping to have some DIRECT and CLINICAL IR pathway residents as well to give you the 411 on that.

For residents I am hoping to have current IR fellows and IR program director panel

and for fellows we are hoping to have private practice and academic IR attendings.

We will have some clinical presentations; procedural videos is something I will look into (I wish we could show live cases)

What kind of interactive activities? I am open to suggestions.

Once again thank you for posting and look forward to anymore suggestions.

GV

 

[nick_carraway]

Started a radiology interest group at my school, recently. Curious if stipends are available for medical students who join SIR and want to attend the conference.

Regardless, the future of IR is on the top of my mind and the answers seem to vary from region to region. It might be best to address some concerns when the entire field is assembled in Chicago. How specialized do you have to be post-fellowship in the future? Where is IR winning turf battles, and what happens when they lose them? Are improvements in imaging making it easier for other specialists to chip away at IR volume now or in the future?

 

[Gvataken]

Started a radiology interest group at my school, recently. Curious if stipends are available for medical students who join SIR and want to attend the conference.

I hope that we can get a dedicated IR interest group going at most schools (specific for those interested in IR)

I am not aware of any dedicated funds to get students to the annual meeting, but I do believe the meeting registration is waived for students. I will look into it further with SIR.

Regardless, the future of IR is on the top of my mind and the answers seem to vary from region to region. It might be best to address some concerns when the entire field is assembled in Chicago. How specialized do you have to be post-fellowship in the future? Where is IR winning turf battles, and what happens when they lose them? Are improvements in imaging making it easier for other specialists to chip away at IR volume now or in the future?


So, I think all politics are local. But, it really is up to the individual. I truly believe when there is a will thee is a way. This does require that you become a disease specialist. You must be able to treat all aspects of the patient's condition. I still think it is important to be a general IR and able to do most things, but it is true in a large group of IR, there will be some level of subspecialization. (It is impossible to keep up on everything).

for example hepatoma (you should know the role of transplant, resection, ablation, chemoembolizastion and oral chemotherapy). Then you should feel comfortable seeing the patient and referring if necessary. Some IRs are even prescribing nexavar themselves (oral chemotherapy).

You should understand liver disease (when to give lasix, aldactone, lactulose, propanolol, rifaximin etc), if you are dealing with patients with hepatocellular carcinoma.

I do think that all specialties will need to improve their imaging skills. This is becoming an integral part of medicine. BUt, having said that IR have a strong imaging background and great technical skills and are now improving their clinical fundamentals. The true triple threat and renaissance physician. But, it does require a strong background in clinical skills and patient management.

Hope that helps.

 

[7summits]

I once saw a rep from a stent company bring in a water-filled arterial model/simulator where you could practice deploying stents. I don't know if it would be possible to get anything like that, but I think it could definitely be fun. Anything hands-on is a plus.

It also may be interesting to make one of the case presentations interactive, where an IR presents a case and then students and residents could give suggestions for what to do next. Then the IR could explain what they did and why, and show video/pictures from the case.

I'd also like the opportunity to be able to talk with residents and fellows and ask them questions outside of a panel-type setting, more informal. I'm not sure if there's time already allotted for that but it's always a good thing to be able to network and share information.

 

[nick_carraway]

I hope that we can get a dedicated IR interest group going at most schools (specific for those interested in IR)

I am not aware of any dedicated funds to get students to the annual meeting, but I do believe the meeting registration is waived for students. I will look into it further with SIR.

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I do think that all specialties will need to improve their imaging skills. This is becoming an integral part of medicine. BUt, having said that IR have a strong imaging background and great technical skills and are now improving their clinical fundamentals. The true triple threat and renaissance physician. But, it does require a strong background in clinical skills and patient management.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for writing back. We performed a casual survey of M1-4 when the club was started and it seems that nearly everyone interested in the radiology interest group was interested in IR. I know attitudes change through med school, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is reflective of other radiology interest groups. You might already have a bunch of dedicated IR groups 😉

Also, thanks for your perspective of the field. I guess everyone's favorite question is "where do you see the field in 5/10 years?" but I recognize that these things are difficult to predict. Steve Jobs likes to remind people that the future is long, and I was trying to gauge how dynamic & relevant IR will be if I choose it for a very long career.

I'll ask my faculty advisor if SIR is a group we should get more involved with. Thanks!

 

[Gvataken]

My pleasure. I think we of the SIR RFS would love motivated students to join. We are submitting a proposal to have a dedicated student section of the resident fellow section of RFS. The executive council of RFS is meeting tomorrow and so we will be submitting a proposal for student representatives on RFS . I will also be presenting some of these suggestions at the IR program directors meeting. I will keep you guys posted.


I agree the future is hard to predict. IR if done the right way (clinical fashion) is a great field with a bright future. But it is a patient centered field.

 

[Gvataken]

there are so many vendors and we are working on ways to showcase and play with the product.

I think a case based series is a good idea, I will see what the others thnk.

 

[phatfarm]

Thanks for writing back. We performed a casual survey of M1-4 when the club was started and it seems that nearly everyone interested in the radiology interest group was interested in IR. I know attitudes change through med school, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is reflective of other radiology interest groups. You might already have a bunch of dedicated IR groups 😉

Also, thanks for your perspective of the field. I guess everyone's favorite question is "where do you see the field in 5/10 years?" but I recognize that these things are difficult to predict. Steve Jobs likes to remind people that the future is long, and I was trying to gauge how dynamic & relevant IR will be if I choose it for a very long career.

I'll ask my faculty advisor if SIR is a group we should get more involved with. Thanks!

Nick,

Sounds like you guys have a pretty active radiology interest group which is great. If you are interested in having some more interactions with some of us who are in IR, send me a PM with where your med school is and we will try to see if there are some IR attendings and fellows who may be available to come talk to you guys about radiology and IR. If there is a lot of interest, maybe some of them will agree to be mentors for you guys.

Best of luck,

Phatfarm

 

[Chung B]

Agree with Gvataken. If you are aggressive and willing to compete, are a disease expert, and take care of your patients you will build your practice.