- Joined
- Feb 14, 2007
- Messages
- 1,146
- Reaction score
- 4
There it was, right on the SDN homepage. A DO ophthalmologist slamming optometry. Where's the moderator there? Ahh, its not really surprising anymore. Freaking ridiculous.
JP on May 3rd, 2007 3:10 pm
I'm glad this DO takes a stand against optometrists trying to expand scope of practice. It shows me not every physician is complacent to the threat of poor health care by unqualified people.
There it was, right on the SDN homepage. A DO ophthalmologist slamming optometry. Where's the moderator there? Ahh, its not really surprising anymore. Freaking ridiculous.
You're offended by this? Christ man, if this was the worst the medicine said about you guys, y'all would be in great shape.
so its ok for you guys to belittle us as long as its slightly more respectfuly then calling us "refraction monkeys?"
The ophthalmologist mentions optometry all of one time:
"Organized optometry continues to try to side-step the existing and entirely adequate route to becoming an eye surgeon, the ophthalmology residency, by legislating changes in their scope of practice to include surgery."
How is that horribly bashing ODs?
The DO ophthalmologist's comment on optometrists is simply ignorant and one-sided. Her inappropriate attack on another respected profession just shows you how much she feels threatened by ODs. I don't know why she feels that way but all ODs want to do surgery?? Many people pursue optometry because it doesn't involve surgery! I, for one.
Yeah I see it.. Did you see the comments too?
I don't understand why this is allowed to go on the front page of a site like this.
I also don't really understand why the "biggest problem with her specialty" is optometrists trying to do surgery in her state (CA) when ODs can't even treat glaucoma independently yet without jumping through hoops. Seems like surgery is a long long way away. I can't see ODs taking over her much loved cataract surgeries in the near future.
Yeah, I tried to post a rebuttal in the comments section. It never made it in, got moderated right out. Imagine that. Double standard, do ya think?
Because SDN is a membership, I'll leave it to you as a group to decide if SDN should remove her statement from the article. However, I'm not sure if that will help or hurt the overall issue of OD practice rights. It may be more valuable to use this opportunity to discuss why there is this perception of infringement by the ophthalmology community and how SDN as a community can change these perceptions.
I'm sorry about the comment from Dr. Cunningham. I don't know if she meant the comment to be inflammatory, but I certainly understand the frustration.
I moderated two comments from the site earlier today. One was from a student that made inflammatory statements about ODs and the other (I'm assuming IndianaODs) pointing out the post. IndianaOD was correct that the person's statement was inappropriate which is why I removed both the original post and his (referencing that post).
Because SDN is a membership, I'll leave it to you as a group to decide if SDN should remove her statement from the article. However, I'm not sure if that will help or hurt the overall issue of OD practice rights. It may be more valuable to use this opportunity to discuss why there is this perception of infringement by the ophthalmology community and how SDN as a community can change these perceptions.
I think that the real problem is that SDN has some responsibility to keep an even playing field to all the "doctors" SDN represents. If there is discussion in the medical forums or optometry forums regarding scope of practice then that's one thing, but for visitors to this site reading these comments on the front page just gives an overall bad impression for this site.
Also, I have put a request to our mods to consider doing a joint article between optometry and ophthalmology exploring this issue. It's clearly an issue that is important to both communities and we should try to write an article that looks at it objectively and evenly.
The ophthalmologist mentions optometry all of one time:
"Organized optometry continues to try to side-step the existing and entirely adequate route to becoming an eye surgeon, the ophthalmology residency, by legislating changes in their scope of practice to include surgery."
How is that horribly bashing ODs?
if this was all that was said, i don't find it offensive. partisan? yes. flagrantly offensive? not at all.
if her remarks were prefaced with, "In my opinion, ...", then i don't think anyone could criticize anything here.
she was asked for her opinion, and she gave it. i'd say SDN might have done more "wrong" by censoring her interview.
who cares anyways. she's a pretty young oph. she'll learn to get over little things like this, and so will the OD-students here on these boards.
Articles should represent unbiased views from practitioners who are open to the community that SDN is trying to build.
As a soon to be OD, 14 days actually, I have strong opinions about this topic. But, I also feel this was an interview asking the Dr. her OPINIONS. With that said, anything that came out of her mouth should be posted...1st amendment rights.
As a person who is entering Optometry school, I am quite discouraged by this.
I feel the same way fonz. I am entering OD school in August and it is just downright discouraging that people with an attitude like that are what we have to "look forward" to working with.
One OMD with the attitude doesn't mean all OMDs are the same. Some of them actually like to work with ODs, believe it or not.
almost all of the OMDs in my area have ODs on staff. Not all of them of course, but a solid majority.
It's not all as doom and gloom as the forums make it out to be, fortunately. The people on the forums are the ones who are the most passionate about what they do. Why else would they be here ? With that passion, comes heated debate.
Sorry to be discouraging about this, but trust me...99.9% of them are the same. Just because they hire you, just because they let you work in their practice, just because they promise you your patient back...they will stab you in the back in a flash. As long as they have you under their thumb, you're ok. The minute you try to practice independantly, they turn on you.One OMD with the attitude doesn't mean all OMDs are the same. Some of them actually like to work with ODs, believe it or not.