Snack WWars (Game Thread)

[WildZoo]

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I don't have pockets, do you want to be in Kate Spade taxi purse or Dracula helmet purse?
There may be a gummi in one

Dracula helmet purse?! That sounds amazing

 

[_rae_]

Listen I don't feel good about screams but I also don't know that I'm ready for you to just kablam her, y'know????

I still haven't even looked at half of you!

 

[vampyrica]

i was pinged

 

[WildZoo]

Listen I don't feel good about screams but I also don't know that I'm ready for you to just kablam her, y'know????

I still haven't even looked at half of you!

Well you have a little less than 5.5 hours

Although, I'll be busy right at night action deadline so let's say 7pm EST instead

 

[vampyrica]

hypothetically speaking, if you shot SQB, is it instant like fruit’s was? or would we have to wait until the cycle is over?

 

[screamqueenbee]

Dracula helmet purse?! That sounds amazing

Spoiler: Your home for the rest of the game

 

[Clem J]

Uh huh

Look I have to have some base to work from and I still see rae and vampy as most likely town so

I don't know how to explain it beyond that the way they moved d1 in particular was towny and they aren't making wolf moves

 

[kitzsuna]

Just suppose.

Just as a thought experiment.

Like let's say I did have another bullet in my gun.

Does anyone think I shouldn't shoot screams? I mean. If we're all gonna yeet her tomorrow anyway.

I'm still kind of leaning towards it's better to get the info from the night and see if that helps us make better choices tomorrow. But in this theoretical universe I would be willing take on the weight of the risk of instant game loss, if it was a group project.

Hypothetically speaking.

I’m not fully convinced that’s where my yeet would land tomorrow, but I would not be strongly opposed to another bullet there either

 

[screamqueenbee]

C'mon, shooting me is:
1: Rood
2: A bad idea
3: I'll curse everyone to never win I game of WW again, including myself

 

[WildZoo]

C'mon, shooting me is:
1: Rood
2: A bad idea
3: I'll curse everyone to never win I game of WW again, including myself

I'll just mod forever, mods always win hmmyes

 

[screamqueenbee]

I'll just mod forever, mods always win hmmyes

And I'll haunt role chat with bad ideas for games

 

[kitzsuna]

C'mon, shooting me is:
1: Rood
2: A bad idea
3: I'll curse everyone to never win I game of WW again, including myself

If you had one bullet who would you use it on?

 

[vampyrica]

tinfoiling: dubZ and SQB are in a pack and SQB is gonna flip wolf and it clears dubZ for end game.

oops did i say that out loud?

 

[screamqueenbee]

If you had one bullet who would you use it on?

Zenge

 

[screamqueenbee]

tinfoiling: dubZ and SQB are in a pack and SQB is gonna flip wolf and it clears dubZ for end game.

oops did i say that out loud?

I'm not sure I see the point in that. Also, if I was wolfing, wouldn't my ultimate goal to get to the end for my first game as a wolf? Because then people would take me seriously?

 

[WildZoo]

tinfoiling: dubZ and SQB are in a pack and SQB is gonna flip wolf and it clears dubZ for end game.

oops did i say that out loud?

It would be funny if that strategy happened twice within one WW year

 

[screamqueenbee]

And I'll haunt role chat with bad ideas for games

Hey DubZ; Oops all Gravediggers

 

[_rae_]

Beans: 2 pages.

Spoiler

Second - I unfortunately don't have thoughts on most players because there just isn't much to go on so far. Here's what I've gathered though:
Spurs -> village lean. I don't think he does this vote jumping thing as wolf.
SQB -> I feel like I'm always wolf reading them and they're never a wolf...so idk
chic -> haven't seen enough to have an opinion
rae -> village lean. I can't say anything, I've done the same throw a vote on clem on D1 thing as village. She's another one who I'm always wolf reading but who is usually just village.
clem -> village? The vibes feel ok. Though him talking about being misyeeted has me squinting a little.
Dubz -> I don't have an opinion yet. I don't want to yeet her today anyways bc she modded last game.
kitz -> IDK. Don't love the return of the dill pickle goldfish but I don't think dill pickles = wolf
fruitsnack -> seems like pure village noob rn
vampy -> probablyyyyy village?? Her wolf and village look similar in early game though
juno -> hasn't checked in, no opinion yet
SAR ->no opinion at this time
samac -> village?? I think the line of questioning on rae is villagey
zenge -> hasn't been here enough for me to have an opinion
apop -> soft village for now, mostly bc we have the same thoughts on rae
fruit -> village. I feel pretty good about fruit right now, he seems pure

The reads list that everyone didn't like. In hindsight, I feel okay about it. Still think it's wishy washy beans but I think I've played more with scum beans than village beans so I'm not sold.

I think I'll join zenge for now. It's interesting that SAR is voting samac but agrees with samac's take on rae's clem vote. Has me softly squinting.
yeet SAR
@kaydubs

I actually follow this logic. Even if I now think it's wrong.

Well, I have to go soon and won't be back for EOD (prior engagement) so what the heck.
I'm village with a 1x yeet avoidance.
Sooooooo you gotta decide if you want to waste today's yeet or not

No one died D1. This is either a very coincidental PR or beans is truthing. I'm actually leading more towards truthing here. The things that pinged me about Beans in fairgrounds were looking to other people for guidance. While beans hasn't been around a ton, I don't think they're leaning on any one player for support.

I'm with fruit and dubz here - why a fruit yeet? Weren't you village reading him yesterday @Zenge142?

These are my current reads. I'm not sure what to make of the zenge/fruit thing so I'm contemplating that. Also still mulling over vampy's apop thoughts.

Village lean
snack - giving off village nooblet vibes currently
fruit - appears to be village fruit. Nothing crazy stands out.
chic - I think she had good analysis yesterday and seems to be looking at things from a village perspective

Probably village?
Zenge - appears to be staying consistent with what I've seen of village zenge in the past. No crazy red flags yet but no 100% village confirmation either.
rae- nothing jumping out at me as "wolf rae" right now. Yes her post about clem was a little odd but it's not necessarily out of character for village!rae
kitz - keeping in mind that I've never played with wolf!kitz she seems similar to last game where I misyeeted her as village

POE
SQB - very similar to kitz. Another player who I feel like I continually wolfread and then they are a misyeet.
Clem - I'm still side eying the early D1 discussion about misyeets but he seems to be acting like village!clem. I don't think I'm interested in a clem yeet right now.
apop - I don't think I can fully move her up to probably village yet but she's borderline. I know she's tricked me before as a wolf so I'm being cautious.
vampy - her village and wolf games look so similar to me that it's hard for me to make a call right now. I don't feel comfortable village reading her.
dubz - this is not because of her being lower posting than normal (bc I know she said that was her goal for this game) - it's mostly because she hasn't done anything to make me village read her.
SAR - I'm still side eying the samac/SAR/rae exchange. I also like I said earlier am inclined to listen to zenge's take on her. I'm not dead set on a SAR yeet today though if there is evidence for someone else.

I do find them questioning Zenge on fruit then saying they trust Zenge's take on SAR as a bit odd, but the time between these posts was a sleep's worth so I'm wondering if beans just had some "next day" clarity.

The SAR wagon is frightening me...like it built up too fast

I mean SAR is in my POE but the lack of resistance to voting her out is spooky

I think I'm staying on apop for now. The SAR flash wagon is not making me feel better about her

I could easily tinfoil that this is beans not wanting to bus. Without the SAR flip I struggle with how to read this.

There's not much after this as beans has said she was taking the night off and coming in fresh D3.

tldr I still don't know what to think of beans. There's pingy things and there's village things.

 

[_rae_]

I'm not sure I see the point in that. Also, if I was wolfing, wouldn't my ultimate goal to get to the end for my first game as a wolf? Because then people would take me seriously?

Hmmmmmmmm this is an odd thing to say

 

[WildZoo]

Hey DubZ; Oops all Gravediggers

If they're all gravediggers then who is going to catch them digging?!

 

[WildZoo]

hypothetically speaking, if you shot SQB, is it instant like fruit’s was? or would we have to wait until the cycle is over?

I'll keep woofs guessing with this one I think!

 

[Clem J]

I'll just mod forever, mods always win hmmyes

Idk I've definitely lost a game as a mod before

 

[Clem J]

I'll keep woofs guessing with this one I think!

I want it noted I see what you're doing

 

[screamqueenbee]

If they're all gravediggers then who is going to catch them digging?!

I think I said specifically bad game ideas

 

[WildZoo]

I want it noted I see what you're doing

You do?? Because I assure you, I don't know what I'm doing (I said as much in my role PM!)

 

[Clem J]

You do?? Because I assure you, I don't know what I'm doing (I said as much in my role PM!)

Well I see what I think you're doing at least, though I'll admit a second possibility has occurred but I don't want to talk about either one rn I just want to note them so I seem smart later

 

[_rae_]

Zenge: 4 pages

Spoiler

Yeet SAR

@kaydubs

Zenge did not know we were starting early. Made a handful of goofy posts then slapped an SAR vote down on page 10.

Vibes and tone.

Beans asked why, this was zenge's response. Which arguably could be reasonable at the time given SAR hadn't said too much.

samacs, unyeet vampy pls to get your zenges vote counted

Why are you so invested in Samac voting for me?

bizarre assumption and claim

i’m trying to fix the tallies

The start of the fruit fight. Admittedly this is the first time I've actually gone back to look at this. Yeah, this is a weird claim. I don't like this.

We then go on a meme detour and this pops up.

Sorry but it's not Dubz

Slams down the reading card... says nothing

I'm assuming zenge is saying he knows how to read dubz. But is this maybe an attempt to pocket dubz?

Dubz then sent a very colorful big and loud message requesting Zenge explain his SAR vote and his response is

Asked and answered!

It was vibes and feels.

It's my read.

I’m trying to not be too obvious…. Hmmm

Well it's out there now!

APPARENTLY BEANS DOESNT GET IT
…. Do you get it?

No. It just looks like a rojo. What on earth are you saying?

Okay

Then we get this interaction with samac that looks kind of villagey to me.

Oh.

Ehhhhh I could see it.

That’s not a statement on Beans one way or the other. Currently neutral. Ever so slightly wisps of village lean.

I’m pretty sure I’ve have this exact role in a KD game before though, for the record.

This also seems kind of villagey. Zenge had asked if beans claimed jester, then realized the claim was yeet avoidance. Unless beans/zenge is a pack which is not something I had even considered until typing those words this feels genuine.

Who is zenge voting?

Sar

SAR still

Unyeet (whomstsoever I'm currently voting) yeet sar

@kaydubs

I feel my reasoning is pretty easy to follow

Just like vibes and stuff. It’s not concrete.

Then this happens. Clem just sheeps zenge no problem. Genuine question, is this something clem does regularly (I know dubz won't see this because she doesn't read my wall posts )?

Hey now that you’re here—do you have any of Clem, dubZ or samac in your POE? sorry if you posted about any of this last night

I would assume you’re still looking at SAR first though?

Not really.

Absolutely not.

and

No, Not really.

respectively

Well I’m well and bamboozled then, if you’re town

I agree with his takes I think he’s town and I’m town so we’re in different headspace’s

Clem- Neutral
Dubz - Village
Samac - Village lean

To make it clear where I stand

I’m town too, so unless you’re both scum I probably need to reevaluate my reads

I had a hard time following this, but zenge seems unsure on clem.

Then, despite being on SAR from the beginning for "tone and vibes" we get this:

Yeet Fruit?

Yeah yeet fruit.

@kaydubs

Which I still am having hmmmmmmmm thoughts about after rereading that interaction.

We needed that blocker

Just need your vote fam. That’s our best weapon!

Sorry Charlie, it’s time to go

yeet beans

@kaydubs

Fruit isn't even retaliatory voting zenge. Could this be a confident bad read? Maybe.

Aooooo

Also this

beans is town and you know it

again, no.

you're claiming to have a gotcha moment when you really don't

come on, prove me wrong.

I’m not claiming any got ya moment.

I had a moment of being pinged by you D1 and I don’t want to pass that by. I haven’t seen what I feel like I see with village!fruit.

I thought I saw a shimmer of wolf!fruit yesterday.

This whole response to what I said just rubbed me wrong. I've slept on it, and decided to see it through to the end.

This feels like a massive overreaction.

You're not wolfing, right Apop?

Would you lie to me? 🥺

I think you're village this game, but having one of the lowest posters in the game as a top town read isn't a good look.

and having your POE so large it looks like you're "keeping your options open"

I'm not changing my read on you off it it... if you're a wolf

But if you're town these are the things wolves will use against you I think, just as a heads up.

Of course not 😇

I believe you.

Apop is town and I shan't be rescinding....

Probably.

During this back and forth, zenge also town reads apop. Which was true but is this just a way to look good?

Give us your SAR read

This does feel village and will be relevant later.

What are your thoughts on the Kitz role claim

Can you elaborate on this?

These pokes also feel villagey.

And then, out of nowhere:

Yeet Apop

@kaydubs

My wagon had kind of picked up steam at this point and instead of voting for a popular scum read, Zenge went back on his village apop read.

What?

Why were you voting apop then?

Unyeet Apop

@kaydubs

And now zenge is sheeping clem.... I don't like their interactions I've decided.

Yeet SCB

@kaydubs

If you’d have just waited like two seconds

YOU’RE IMPOSSIBLE

However this feels genuine to me. I still am wondering when and why Zenge abandoned his SAR wolf read.

Giving a read on SAR now, are we?

And then this is Zenge's one and only contribution today, which feels like a valid point out after yelling at dubz for a read prior (I didn't quote those posts)

tldr there are specific scenarios in my head where I can make zenge a wolf. Therefore, I'm leaving zenge as potentially wolfy.

Current scum reads in no particular order: zenge, scream
Neutrals: kitz, beans
Village: chic, SAR

Dubz, clem, and vampy have the biggest ISOs and I genuinely don't think I'm going to get them done -_-

 

[vampyrica]

Dubz, clem, and vampy have the biggest ISOs and I genuinely don't think I'm going to get them done -_-

i’ll give you the vampy tldr: random votes on people, majorly sussed out beans, recurring sus on kitz, belief spurs was not a w!kill, voted SAR which contributed to starting a flash wagon, good memes

 

[_rae_]

i’ll give you the vampy tldr: random votes on people, majorly sussed out beans, recurring sus on kitz, belief spurs was not a w!kill, voted SAR which contributed to starting a flash wagon, good memes

Hmmmmmmmmm we'll see about that


Also is no one reading my wall posts

 

[kitzsuna]

Hmmmmmmmmm we'll see about that


Also is no one reading my wall posts

I’m reading them!

 

[screamqueenbee]

Also is no one reading my wall posts

Girl Im reading them!

 

[Clem J]

clem

biggest ISO

What a world we live in

 

[_rae_]

Well someone killed Samac and Spurs early and dubz is in her chill era so it's been quiet

 

[WildZoo]

Tinfoil: I killed Spurs and samac early to facilitate my chill era

 

[WildZoo]

Wait

 

[Zenge142]

Tinfoil: I killed Spurs and samac early to facilitate my chill era

Wait

...

 

[screamqueenbee]

Wait

 

[WildZoo]

inb4 the real night vig shoots Dubz

 

[_rae_]

Clem: 5 pages

Spoiler

Hi hi hi

Ur a wolf

I was gonna do a bit for this game but I've already forgotten it

No I cut them off

Yeet samac

@kaydubs

This entrance is not AI.

Yeah you're mafia

What is a queso cake

I need to know

Scummy post my guy

GOTTEM

UNYEET SAMAC YEET SPURS

@kaydubs

Also not AI. Whoever was accused of being fluffy I think clem is fluffy.

It's very predictable lol

It goes

I get townread for "being free flowing" or some **** like that

Then I disappear from the thread for awhile

People go "Hey why do I tr clem again? And where is he anyways?"

They iso me and say things like "yeah he's posting but he's not saying anything, you know?"

Then I either have the time and inclination and medicatedness to come back and I get tr again, or I get miskilled, depending

This is too meta not to be genuine.

Wow ok first of all how dare you

Apop rae and vampy are all town

Village reading me for voting him is village coded imo.

So. Much. Fluff.

Bad news for future clem

This might answer my question from zenge's iso lol.

Unyeet spurs yeet beans

@kaydubs

Sheeping spurs? Interesting.

Who is zenge voting?

Sar

SAR still

Unyeet (whomstsoever I'm currently voting) yeet sar

@kaydubs

Now we're back to this interaction. Feels better from this angle?

Idk what does zenge day

Okay fine, clem sheeps zenge.

Yeet fruit

@kaydubs

Clem stop it if I'm sus reading zenge and you're sheeping him I have to sus read you too.

Can I talk you out of this without elaborating on why?

Oofda

I'm pretty sure they slipped town and I don't want to say more in case I get yelled at but I'm like

95% sure they're town

A kitz wagon is never far from forming

Hmmmmmm

I said kitz slipped town, afaik they haven't claimed?

Oh JK I know what this was about.

I am realizing that I don't know what bit queen is doing this game so maybe I should be having more pause than I do

I think there's probably a difference check between queen and zenge

Maintaining rae/dubz/vampy/kitz as town

Game is probably hard but we're still in it probably

This town block just feels not genuine? But is it like that because it's clem or is it like that because he's playing some weird game?

ETA: tldr (how else will Dubz know where to read!) I've always misread clem as wolf. I think I'm reading clem as town, which makes me pause. Clem is more sus than others, but not quite down with zenge and scream.

 

[_rae_]

Process of elimination says Dubz and vampy should be in my eels. Lazy rae who needs to understand nerve blocks wants to just throw them in there. Solving village rae wants to commit to the iso.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Just suppose.

Just as a thought experiment.

Like let's say I did have another bullet in my gun.

Does anyone think I shouldn't shoot screams? I mean. If we're all gonna yeet her tomorrow anyway.

I'm still kind of leaning towards it's better to get the info from the night and see if that helps us make better choices tomorrow. But in this theoretical universe I would be willing take on the weight of the risk of instant game loss, if it was a group project.

Hypothetically speaking.

Hold on. No one said anything about yeeting SQB tomorrow.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Though, I think you should keep brandishing the threat. The hypothetical threat I mean.

But I’d still like to see how night shakes out.

 

[screamqueenbee]

Hmmmmmmmm this is an odd thing to say

Is it an odd thing to say? Or is it the dream of every highly competitive werewolf player?

 

[vampyrica]

Process of elimination says Dubz and vampy should be in my eels. Lazy rae who needs to understand nerve blocks wants to just throw them in there. Solving village rae wants to commit to the iso.

and i thought we were getting along

 

[_rae_]

and i thought we were getting along

tbh that's part of why I'm hmmmmmm-ing you why are you agreeing with me

 

[vampyrica]

so it’s just clem rn town reading me? so either he’s wolfing and TR for cred so when i flip village he goes “see guys !!! i was right !!!”

or clem actually found me like we normally do and everything is hunky dory

 

[vampyrica]

tbh that's part of why I'm hmmmmmm-ing you why are you agreeing with me

i’m a changed lady, i hear everybody out

 

[vampyrica]

but i will admit, i’m not on my A-village-game so i get the concern for me. but idk how much more to say other than i’m not exciting in the slightest, but you lose me and you lose another villager.

 

[WildZoo]

Hold on. No one said anything about yeeting SQB tomorrow.

Everyone was saying stuff about yeeting screams tomorrow!

 

[WildZoo]

Though, I think you should keep brandishing the threat. The hypothetical threat I mean.

But I’d still like to see how night shakes out.

I'm just waving around a nerf gun, probably