SNF, documenting evaluations for another therapist

[dawglala]

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I just had an interview with a SNF. During the interview the rehab director mentioned that she wants me to document weeks of evaluations for their previous therapist who may not come back for technical issues and was behind in his documentations. She said that in the documentation, it would state that another therapist performed the eval, but I just completed the documentation since the therapist was no longer available. It sounds fishy to me. Is this legal/ethical?

 

[jblil]

That's an interesting question. I'd contact your local PT Board and ask. Please share their answer, if you get one. My gut feel is that you can't sign another PT's eval, because you did not lay eyes on the patient and so you do not know if the eval is accurate or not. Remember that your license is on the line.

 

[Azimuthal]

Nope. Sorry. I'd tell them that I'd be more than happy to do a re-eval and sign those. They need to change the PToR and that director needs to finish those notes.

Honestly, I would have ended the interview at that point.

 

[Fiveoboy11]

It's not optional for the PT who did the eval to document, they have to do it. He/she likely either quit or got fired abruptly with these evaluations not completed. One or both of them screwed up so don't make it your problem too. If the DOR is a PT then they can definitely do it themselves, if not then either re-eval and someone else can deal with the PTA's treating without an evaluation and billing problems (if you take the job, which doesn't sound like the best) or don't take the job.

 

[dawglala]

Thank you guys for the responses. It confirms my feeling of uneasiness and unethical practice. This setting definitely is not best to start my career in. I'll look for another job.

 

[Cheezy89]

That my friend is fraud, malpractice and dishonesty all across the board. Glad you made the right decision to consider another job.

 

[dawglala]

Hi guys. I have been interviewing for a hospital position, and would like to ask for your advice regarding salary/compensation.

From what I hear from my classmates, per-diem rate for inpatient physical therapist is around $47-50/hour in the Los Angeles area where I live. For anyone familiar with the rate, does that sound about right?

Last week during an interview, I was asked for my salary expectation for a full-time inpatient position. I thought subtracting $10/hour from the per diem rate would suffice ($37-40). Honestly I felt a bad afterwards since compared to the numbers on the internet, it seems a bit too much for a new grad. But then, if the numbers for per-diem are right, it doesn't seem too much either. Would you please guide me on what numbers I should be expecting as a new grad?

I'd appreciate your input. It will help a clueless new grad in evaluating/negotiating job offers.

 

[Azimuthal]

Hi guys. I have been interviewing for a hospital position, and would like to ask for your advice regarding salary/compensation.

From what I hear from my classmates, per-diem rate for inpatient physical therapist is around $47-50/hour in the Los Angeles area where I live. For anyone familiar with the rate, does that sound about right?

Last week during an interview, I was asked for my salary expectation for a full-time inpatient position. I thought subtracting $10/hour from the per diem rate would suffice ($37-40). Honestly I felt a bad afterwards since compared to the numbers on the internet, it seems a bit too much for a new grad. But then, if the numbers for per-diem are right, it doesn't seem too much either. Would you please guide me on what numbers I should be expecting as a new grad?

I'd appreciate your input. It will help a clueless new grad in evaluating/negotiating job offers.

$45-55/HR is reasonable for per diem inpatient.
$37-40/HR starting for benefited inpatient is reasonable. It's about 18% below per diem.

 

[dawglala]

$45-55/HR is reasonable for per diem inpatient.
$37-40/HR starting for benefited inpatient is reasonable. It's about 18% below per diem.

Understood. Good to know that. Thank you so much for the guidance.