So frustrated with Anatomy! I need help...

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I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...
 
I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...

Keep at it. Many people don't remember it the first time through. You want to be going through it many times. I suggest, at least until you get a system, (1) preread/skim for each class, (2) go to class, watch the lecture remotely or a combo of the above, then (3) review the material later that day and (4) each weekend, review the prior weeks material. Then don't touch it until (5) the week before the exam when you are going to review everything again. By that time you will have seen it 5 times, and a lot of it will stick.
 
I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...


Sounds like memorizing isn't your thing. You're going to need to try new methods to drill things into your head.

As far as going into the lab: It is huge. Buy an extra anatomy book and keep it with your corpse + a dissector. Read through the dissector as you go. It will stick so much better that way. Use the anatomy book in case you get lost. -What works even better is if you can bring lecture notes or your laptop in there with you and go through it as you dissect (This takes skill as it's important not to slime your laptop). I didn't really start doing well in anatomy until I got in there with the corpse.
 
You need to really stare at Netter for a long, long time. You should try to really appreciate the relationships between structures... what artery lies on top of what structure and has what neighbors. Make photocopies of your lecture notes and just keep them at your lab station so that you can refer to them for clarification and reinforcement. Also, you really should use Netter in the lab too... I think most schools have lab copies.
 
oh, and by the way, I think the way you feel is how most people feel in the first couple of weeks - overwhelmed, frustrated, and not sure why hours and hours of studying isn't paying off. But once you find your learning style, it will be a lot more manageable... it just takes time. You totally have it in you to do well (and believe us when we say this)...
 
I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...

Whoa, I'm having flashbacks. Now I know how all those Vietnam vets feel.
 
I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...

Yeah, we've all experienced that. It seems to be common at all med schools.

If you find that you're forgetting structures a couple of hours later when in anatomy lab - don't draw them out. Or at least, don't spend a lot of time drawing them out. Just memorizing what they look like, and (more importantly) being able to recognize what they look like is much more important.

As Ambs said, just stare at Netter or Rohen and learn to recognize the patterns of the structures. Drawing them out isn't necessarily very helpful.
 
I've got a suggestion: Don't read anything (except the blue boxes)!

Buy Big Moore and memorize every diagram. Cover the diagram key and try and name all the structures in the diagram and then check the key to see if you got them right. Then go onto the next picture. The text just describes the pictures anyway.
 
I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...

First of all, stop paying attention to what you perceive as what others are doing or "knowing". Keep your focus on yourself and your learning because it will be "your" exams that you will take.

Don't try to read and diagram everything in one sitting. Make a list of structures (for each lab) that you need to find and check them off as you go. Don't even try to diagram things until after lab and after you have studied your lecture notes. Your diagrams should be summaries and checks of your knowledge.

The lab is where you learn to recognize locations and landmarks. When you are identifying structures, you locate and confirm by landmark. You need to understand the 3-dimensional aspects of anatomy and that is best done in the anatomy lab. You can read about functions and make lists but these are meaningless memorization until you can put everything together in the lab.

If you are having a very difficult time getting your bearings in lab, make an appointment with one of the instructors and just ask him/her to go though localization and landmarks for one specific group of muscles or one specific organ. Pay close attention to the process and bring a small tape recorder (in your pocket) for this session. It should take about 15 or 20 minutes.

Our first anatomical unit was musculoskeletal. When learning say the muscles of the forearm, I memorized them by using a skeleton. First I evaluated and memorized the bones of the forearm. Then I evaluated and studied each muscle by origin, insertion, nerve supply and blood supply. If I knew the origin and insertion, I could picture the action (flexor, extensor, pronator, supinator, abductor, adductor) in my mind. Blood and nerve supply runs by group/compartment i.e. superficial, deep.

By doing a bit of skeleton work first saved loads of time in the lab and helped me keep things together.

Don't "beat yourself up" because you have been at this only one week. You likely need one or two small adjustments and you will be just fine. Really work on being able to "tune out" your classmates in terms of their "showing off", "acting like they are anatomy professors" etc. Your results in the end (and especially on the test) is what matters. It may take you longer to get things mastered but master them you will. As you get used to things, you will become more efficient.

I always felt like I was "light-years" behind my fellow students until the end of first year and I saw my class rank. Again, utilize your instructors and do what you need to get yourself grounded. Above all, relax a bit because everyone has an adjustment to make.
 
You need to really stare at Netter for a long, long time. You should try to really appreciate the relationships between structures... what artery lies on top of what structure and has what neighbors.
I highly agree. Drawing things (other than the schematic of the brachial plexus) is probably going to be largely a waste of your time, unless you are very quick. I know a lot of people who re-write their notes in great detail, but unless you're learning as you do that, it probably won't be worth your time.
 
i wasn't big on buddying up with somebody to study during first year, but i definitely did this for anatomy. after lab, my partner and i would go over the structures again and again, taking turns and pimping each other. sometimes it would go quickly; other times we were one of the last people to leave in the evening. we met on sunday afternoons to go over the structures covered during the week (two labs) and further quizzed each other on these, and on clinical correlations. it helped tremendously, and knowing somebody was waiting for me to show up was a huge motivator to go during the weekend. it should help you, as did drawing pics for me. also, if you're finding you're getting lost in identifying structures, pick up the Rohen atlas.

http://www.amazon.com/Color-Atlas-Anatomy-Photographic-Study/dp/0781790131/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-2451766-6229643?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187402199&sr=8-1

it has pics of cadavers in there...

good luck!
'mel
 
I spent some time teaching anatomy in undergrad, and I did some review sessions with my classmates last year and one thing I found that helps a lot of people is to just start identifying the easiest stuff first. Looking at a cadaver can be overwhelming like you said, so take a second to calm yourself down and then start with some very basic things. What position is the body in? What part are you looking at? What are some of the major landmarks, big structures, common things? The idea is to get yourself oriented to what you are looking at rather than delving into the details first.

For example, if your taking a look at the shoulder region, its easy to look at a dissection and get lost immediately in the branches of brachial plexus. But if you take a second and get oriented it starts to make more sense, and look more like what you studied about it. Start with the big things and name the deltoid, the pecs, biceps brachii, and find the axillary vessels. Then start thinking about the relationships around the axillary vessels to figure out the nerves. The chords of plexus are named by their relationship to the axillary artery, So pull the axillary artery aside and find the nerves behind it, they have to be the posterior chord, which has 5 branches, upper subscapular, thoracodorsal, lower subscapular, radial, and axillary. Then follow the nerves out to where they are going to help you name them, see where they come from as well. Follow things to their end point and name those structures they are going to, and follow them back to their origin and name those structures that they originate from. Find the things you are certain about, and try to work out what should be around them.

Ask lots of questions too. If its not clear what something is, ask someone to show you it again, or point it out on another body. I think people love showing off their dissections so go over to another table and say you are having a little trouble seeing something and ask if they have a good view of it. When people are showing you things, ask them how they know that is what it is. When they name something, like the superior thoracic artery, ask them how they know, what information are they using to make that decision?

Its difficult in anatomy to just walk up to a body and name things, you have to work through the information you have on the body to come to a decision about what structure you are looking at.

Good luck
 
It's important to keep in mind where your are in the grand scheme of things. I realize that when you're first starting med school acing anatomy seems incredibly important. In reality it's only one course and has very little utility relative to the rest of the things you'll learn in med school. The amount of gross anatomy that shows up on Step 1 is usually pretty minimal, so it really doesn't matter if you don't end up memorizing every little muscle attachment.
 
in the beginning i was also having difficulty in studying anatomy so much so i was not familiar with basic terms in anatomy coz i had no anatomy background.but with passage of time you get used to it and the rule of thumb is to rewise as much as you can until you close your eyes and things are on your finger tips.its, no diubt difficult, but ofcourse possible a majority does it....you have to understand things but understanding is not a promleb the problem is memorizing.........i think most have problem in memorizing....is it so???
good luck!
 
I feel exactly the same way!!!! Damn. I find myself questioning why I am in medical school and if I can handle it all. It's very frightening that I can't remember anything.
 
I feel exactly the same way!!!! Damn. I find myself questioning why I am in medical school and if I can handle it all. It's very frightening that I can't remember anything.

well Netter flashcards are a lifesaver... even though they obviously can't cover everything.

and you can't go wrong with Mnemonics.

Suzie Thompson Loves Sex, Alcohol, and Pot

(Superior thoracic, thoracoacromial, lateral thoracic, subscapular, anterior humeral circumflex, posterior humeral circumflex.)
 
well Netter flashcards are a lifesaver... even though they obviously can't cover everything.

and you can't go wrong with Mnemonics.

Suzie Thompson Loves Sex, Alcohol, and Pot

(Superior thoracic, thoracoacromial, lateral thoracic, subscapular, anterior humeral circumflex, posterior humeral circumflex.)

Or for the bones of the wrist....

Shy lovers try positions that they can't handle

(scaphoid, lunate, triquetrum, pisiform, trapezium, trapezoid, capitate, and hamate)
 
hey mnemonics help a lot especially when you have to learn names of a lot of branches and lists etc.....i am good at making mnemonics and most of my friends are not and i always tell the that:"its an innate quality"(i actually tease them:meanie:)...do you people think thats an innate quality to make mnemonics???....(so chidish :laugh::laugh::laugh:)
 
I have had a week of anatomy and am just already so frustrated with it. The thing that is scarying the *ell out of me, is that I just don't get it. I am studying so much, i spend so much time reading and drawing and then I forget it like 2 hours later, when I am in anatomy lab. Especially veins, arteries, and nerves!!! For the first time in my life, I feel really incompetent and there are all these people in my group that just seem like they know it all (and they aren't really nice about it either). UGH. Have other people experienced this? Especially in the beginning? And everyone says we should spend time outside of class in the lab but if i don't understand it first, why does it make sense to go into lab? Please advise...

Hang in there. You'll be ok. Anatomy is one of those subjects where each thing you learn makes it easier to learn the next thing. if you are anything like me at first you feel like you don't get any of it, like you are trying to memorize a bunch of random letters. sooner or later you will hit a critical mass and all of a sudden you realize those letters are not random, but instead they spell words in a language that you didn't know before. think of trying to memorize the star spangled banner, or in a Shakespearian soliloquy if you didn't speak English.

We all did it, and you can too. 🙂 🙂 🙂
 
Muscles of the medial compartment of the thigh, posterior to anterior:

Grab my big long penis. (Or ponytail, if you so choose).
(Gracillis, magnus, brevis, longus, pectineus)

Structures passing under the flexor retinaculum of the foot:
Tom, Dick and Very Naughty Harry.
 
Just keep at it...and keep at it...and keep at it...

I mean this is the 2nd time I'm doing anatomy since it took it in UG and I'm still forgetting everything left and right. Then again I wasn't the greatest at Anatomy the first time around anyways.

But seriously just keep at it.

I think it helps if you try to memorize stuff that's in future lecture a little, then the lectures kinda just become a reinforcement and clarification (for some reason I had flipped something in my head, etc).

And then of course, just keep memorizing and memorizing. Flash cards might help.
 
anyone heard of how we can memorize the proper C's with the branches of the brachial plexus? I heard of

"3 musketeers, killed 2 assasins, etc etc"

can't remember the rest.

clue me in?
 
anyone heard of how we can memorize the proper C's with the branches of the brachial plexus? I heard of

"3 musketeers, killed 2 assasins, etc etc"

can't remember the rest.

clue me in?
I learned-
3 MUSCular men Asssassinated 4 MEDical students, 4 RADiologists and 2 Urologists.
 
If the smell of formaline does not prevent your passing out, then I do not suppose anything will.
 
How to get an A in Anatomy

My fiancee and I used this method and both received a solid A in anatomy:

The best way to learn and do well in anatomy is to start with the basic structures and then fill in the blanks i.e. the action, innvervation, blood supply and of course the clinical relevance, origin and insertion is not as key as the other points I just mentioned, so learn them in passing (don't spend too much time on them).

the easiest way to learn the structures is to get your hands on Netter's flash cards 2nd edition.

They're very helpful to learn the structures because every image is labelled with no more than 10 structures which are numbered not labelled.

The corresponding label can be found on the reverse of the card.

As well as all the relevant information with the exception of the clinical correlates. For these use BRS. The takeaway points at the end of the chapter are really all you need to know.

You can get more specific if you have time, but when you find you don't this will ensure you learn the most important info.

We also looked at class notes of course to get the minutiae.

Good luck all
 
...origin and insertion is not as key as the other points I just mentioned, so learn them in passing (don't spend too much time on them).

I don't know that this would fly for our anatomy class. They seem to like questions involving some bone getting crushed or broken and then asking which muscles would be affected (i.e got to know both origins and insertions in addition to the innervations).

In the past BRS was THE book for our school as the author was our course director, but this year there is a new course director who actually discouraged its use, although most of the students are still using it.

I personally love the Netter's flashcards. Everything you need packed in one location.
 
I have been through it, been an anatomy professor at a community college, and TA'd Gross. In my personal opinion, drawing things is a HUGE waste of time especially when trying to juggle the other classes. Papa Moore and even Baby Moore may be too dense...especially for someone who doesn't read things once and remember them. As one member suggested. Start with the bones (which many people neglect). They provide the basis of many insertions origins (for extremeties) and they also provide many boundaries and points of entrance and exits (these work well for the arteries, veins, and nerves). For me personally, I like the clinical correlations 1. because this is what I will be treating, and 2. It helps me appreciate what I am studying and how it will pertain to me (as opposed to embryo...haha). I recommend the BRS, although it is dense, it keeps everything down to 20 or 30 pages. Suppliment that with the Netter and the Rohan Atlas (for real images). For people that may be more visual learners...GET IN THE LAB AND TRY TO FIND THINGS YOURSELF. I hate when people go there and listen to the blind leading the blind. Look for the vagus posterior to the bronchus and the phrenic anterior...etc. Also see if you can't get the Acland Videos. They are pretty thorough and do a good way of visually explaining things. Many people in my class enjoy them and feel they really help. If you need them, PM me and we can talk. I hop that helps. Take care and don't get discouraged.
 
Things get better after anatomy.
 
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