So last night I argued with airport security about the definition of a fluid...

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go read my last post. i didn't actually argue. i did give it them right away. i just said i argued in my SDN post to try to entertain you guys on here, but everyone is so uptight this morning for some reason!

and actually, there is a time to argue with TSA security employees. if you get one of those "random searches" when you are in fact middle eastern and it happens to you all the time, you better speak up. it's clearly racism at that point.

A racism that's well founded imo. Sorry that middle eastern people have a problem with Americans and make it a problem for you here.. but that's life! If I saw a middle-eastern guy on my plane, I'd want him searched, too.
 
I actually did successfully argue with the TSA once (and only once). I was coming back from Amsterdam, and per recommendations from both security folks as well as fellow photographers, I packed my loose rolls of film in a clear plastic baggie and asked for a hand inspection. I was shooting film with an ASA of 3200, which would have been destroyed by the scanner (which are only safe for ASAs of less than 1000). The security guard got all huffy, I explained my case, and he kept insisting that it had to go through the machine.

NB: This happened in Philadelphia, *after* I had just flown across the Atlantic, since the folks in Amsterdam had no problems with this.

I held my ground and argued for a few minutes, and eventually he called for his supervisor. I *did* turn around and apologize to the folks waiting in line behind me. The supervisor took about six seconds to check out the film rolls and waved me through. I haven't pressed my luck since, as I figured I've used up all of my security karma.
 
A racism that's well founded imo. Sorry that middle eastern people have a problem with Americans and make it a problem for you here.. but that's life! If I saw a middle-eastern guy on my plane, I'd want him searched, too.

Can we not descend into race-baiting, please?
 
A racism that's well founded imo. Sorry that middle eastern people have a problem with Americans and make it a problem for you here.. but that's life! If I saw a middle-eastern guy on my plane, I'd want him searched, too.

It is a difficult conundrum: On the one hand, racial profiling is ethically questionable and morally repugnant. On the other hand, how common is a non-Middle Eastern suicide bomber? I guess we can only depend on technology becoming advanced enough that we can check EVERYONE just to be safe.
 
It is a difficult conundrum: On the one hand, racial profiling is ethically questionable. On the other hand, how common is a non-Middle Eastern suicide bomber?


The largest act of terrorism in the U.S. prior to 9/11 was a white guy. Racial profiling = teh suck, and that's my professional opinion.
 
A racism that's well founded imo. Sorry that middle eastern people have a problem with Americans and make it a problem for you here.. but that's life! If I saw a middle-eastern guy on my plane, I'd want him searched, too.
Logic Fail.

I don't know what race you are(I am assuming white) but "random screenings" of middle-eastern folks are no more acceptable than arresting every black man if you are looking for a gang member, Hispanic man if you are looking for a drug smuggler, Asian man if you are looking for a math genius, or white man if you are looking for a serial killer. It is wrong period no matter how you look at it.
 
That put a funny image in my head of a guy taking out his shaving gel in the security line and spreading it over his face and shaving, using just enough to leave 2.49 ounces in the bottle :laugh:


hahah i meant as in sucking up losing $2.49, but your world is funnier.
 
This thread will be closed if we can't stay away from insulting and/or racist comments.

But by all means, continue with the stories of embarrassing personal hygiene products found at the security check points.
 
Logic Fail.

I don't know what race you are(I am assuming white) but "random screenings" of middle-eastern folks are no more acceptable than arresting every black man if you are looking for a gang member, Hispanic man if you are looking for a drug smuggler, Asian man if you are looking for a math genius, or white man if you are looking for a serial killer. It is wrong period no matter how you look at it.

They arrest math geniuses?
 
You're lucky they didn't cavity search you, lol. Don't mess with TSA!

I wonder if he would have argued with TSA about how to properly conduct a body cavity search too...😱
 
One could easily argue that solids are just fluids with extremely high viscosity.
 
holy crap, everyone. calm down lol. this isn't that big of a deal. i must say the last post right above this one made me laugh pretty hard, though.

after reading all these replies, it amazes me how many ppl only read the first post in threads and ignore all the replies leading up to their own. :laugh:

okay, so my shot of humor failed. however, if you go back and read this thread while distancing yourself as a 3rd party, I'm pretty sure you'll laugh. if not, well, then I'm not funny at all. that's why I'm going to be a doctor. 😴 <---------that's a joke. i don't want anyone to take that the wrong way and get offended by thinking "he's implying doctors aren't funny. i'm going to be a doctor, so he's saying i don't have a sense of humor either. screw this jerk" :meanie: I could see some SDNers be that uptight, especially based on many of the replies in this thread. lol, lighten up.
 
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holy crap, everyone. calm down lol. this isn't that big of a deal. i must say the last post right above this one made me laugh pretty hard, though.

after reading all these replies, it amazes me how many ppl only read the first post in threads and ignore all the replies leading up to their own. :laugh:

okay, so my shot of humor failed. however, if you go back and read this thread while distancing yourself as a 3rd party, I'm pretty sure you'll laugh. if not, well, then I'm not funny at all. that's why I'm going to be a doctor. 😴 <---------that's a joke. i don't want anyone to take that the wrong way and get offended by thinking "he's implying doctors aren't funny. i'm going to be a doctor, so he's saying i don't have a sense of humor either. screw this jerk" :meanie: I could see some SDNers be that uptight, especially based on many of the replies in this thread. lol, lighten up.

When I read your original post, I thought "wow, that is beyond stupid." Then you told us that you were lying for comic effect, which was both lame and an epic failure in terms of actually being funny, but whatever. Now you are exhorting us to read this thread yet again, because apparently your wit is so sophisticated that we missed it the first time -- and by the way, in not appreciating your humor, we're uptight and need to lighten up (but you qualified it with a "lol" so no one will think you're sulking).

Dude, take the not-so-subtle hints. Your story just wasn't that funny.
 
What a horrible joke. Lmao.
 
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What a horrible joke. Lmao.
So I read this whole thing through...almost laughed out loud at some points during my anatomy class :laugh: (my professor loves the nervous system, but there's nothing really funny about it..)

I think your signature sums it up pretty well. 😎
 
One could easily argue that solids are just fluids with extremely high viscosity.

You made my day.

On a related but actually true note, I was once commended by the TSA officers for "best use of the ziplock bag."

Unlike the OP, I scrutinized the rules on the TSA site prior to my flight from The Deep South to Los Angeles. My roomate and I decided to fill our plastic baggies with Bacardi rum minis:

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We fit around 8 of them each in our bags, ensuring a wonderful flight. When we went through the security line the TSA officers laughed/high-fived us and said they hadn't seen anyone do this before...then I realized we were in Alabama.

Now, here's for the best part. When the nice flight attendant began dispensing the refreshments, we both ordered a coke and began mixing our delicious beverages. The flight attendant notices and tells us that she cannot allow us to mix our own beverages (can't believe we didn't see that coming). Unlike the OP, we apologize to her for any inconvenience, refrain from argueing, and stow our bottles. At least that's what she thought we did. Of course, we mixed our drinks under the tray tables when she was not looking. Towards the end of the flight she approaches our seats and hands us each 2 mini bottles of bacardi. She said she was thanking us for being so nice about the situation. Best trip ever.:meanie:

Lesson of the story: Abide by TSA rules/don't be a👎 (obvious) jackass and you might get free alcohol.
 
Logic Fail.

I don't know what race you are(I am assuming white) but "random screenings" of middle-eastern folks are no more acceptable than arresting every black man if you are looking for a gang member, Hispanic man if you are looking for a drug smuggler, Asian man if you are looking for a math genius, or white man if you are looking for a serial killer. It is wrong period no matter how you look at it.
ah, but you see....this is where your logic fails. every black man is indeed a gang member, all hispanics really are drug smugglers, every asian I know is a math genius, and all the white guys i see look like they wanna kill me and eat me for dinner. what gives😕


i kid, i kid
 
You made my day.

Lesson of the story: Abide by TSA rules/don't be a👎 (obvious) jackass and you might get free alcohol.

Hats off to you sir.

OP: stay real classy.
 
You made my day.

On a related but actually true note, I was once commended by the TSA officers for "best use of the ziplock bag."

Unlike the OP, I scrutinized the rules on the TSA site prior to my flight from The Deep South to Los Angeles. My roomate and I decided to fill our plastic baggies with Bacardi rum minis:

463371690_58c5308ec8.jpg



We fit around 8 of them each in our bags, ensuring a wonderful flight. When we went through the security line the TSA officers laughed/high-fived us and said they hadn't seen anyone do this before...then I realized we were in Alabama.

Now, here's for the best part. When the nice flight attendant began dispensing the refreshments, we both ordered a coke and began mixing our delicious beverages. The flight attendant notices and tells us that she cannot allow us to mix our own beverages (can't believe we didn't see that coming). Unlike the OP, we apologize to her for any inconvenience, refrain from argueing, and stow our bottles. At least that's what she thought we did. Of course, we mixed our drinks under the tray tables when she was not looking. Towards the end of the flight she approaches our seats and hands us each 2 mini bottles of bacardi. She said she was thanking us for being so nice about the situation. Best trip ever.:meanie:

Lesson of the story: Abide by TSA rules/don't be a👎 (obvious) jackass and you might get free alcohol.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
THAT is great story.
 
When I read your original post, I thought "wow, that is beyond stupid." Then you told us that you were lying for comic effect, which was both lame and an epic failure in terms of actually being funny, but whatever. Now you are exhorting us to read this thread yet again, because apparently your wit is so sophisticated that we missed it the first time -- and by the way, in not appreciating your humor, we're uptight and need to lighten up (but you qualified it with a "lol" so no one will think you're sulking).

Dude, take the not-so-subtle hints. Your story just wasn't that funny.

My thoughts exactly. After reading the whole thread, the OP is just is just digging himself into a deeper hole, but at least I'm getting some laughs out of it.😀

OP: Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from dr zaius's story.👍
 
We fit around 8 of them each in our bags, ensuring a wonderful flight. When we went through the security line the TSA officers laughed/high-fived us and said they hadn't seen anyone do this before...then I realized we were in Alabama.

Now, here's for the best part. When the nice flight attendant began dispensing the refreshments, we both ordered a coke and began mixing our delicious beverages. The flight attendant notices and tells us that she cannot allow us to mix our own beverages (can't believe we didn't see that coming). Unlike the OP, we apologize to her for any inconvenience, refrain from argueing, and stow our bottles. At least that's what she thought we did. Of course, we mixed our drinks under the tray tables when she was not looking. Towards the end of the flight she approaches our seats and hands us each 2 mini bottles of bacardi. She said she was thanking us for being so nice about the situation. Best trip ever.:meanie:

Lesson of the story: Abide by TSA rules/don't be a👎 (obvious) jackass and you might get free alcohol.

Oh, snap, good idea for when I'm taking the red eye back to Boston after interviewing in California.
 
Just so you know, you held a bunch of people up and were a major inconvenience to regular travelers who know the policies and realize that air security involves moving as quickly as possible and not causing disruptions.

He admitted that he lied about arguing and missing his flight.
 
Last time I checked airport guidelines, they said "no liquids or gels".
 
TSA was established to give the semblance of security and to restore confidence in using airlines for travel. In undercover investigations they haven't really been shown to be that effective in preventing weapons from getting through security. The psychology of the game is changing in any case. I think most people nowadays would do whatever it takes to stop a high jacker, because you really don't have anything to lose if their gonna take your plane and smash it into a building.
 
pretty decent fail, OP.

i laughed at this: "The reason everyone is pissed is because you are a jackass."
and the bacardi story.. nicely done.

but whats up w/ the arresting of asians ...for being math geniuses? weak.
 
A racism that's well founded imo. Sorry that middle eastern people have a problem with Americans and make it a problem for you here.. but that's life! If I saw a middle-eastern guy on my plane, I'd want him searched, too.

You're an embarrassment to our country.
 
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