So the Yale EM thread suddenly got deleted...

[nycqqe]

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This is one of the most idealistic/naive posts I've seen in this forum. There are very few professions where you can badmouth your company in public and not expect to be summarily terminated. Freedom of speech applies to public life, not your workplace. If you had freedom of speech in corporate life, then there would be no need for whistle-blower laws. Letting your bosses know you hate them and wanting to stay employed by those bosses are diametrically opposed. It works if your bosses' boss likes you more than he does your boss, but that's almost never the case in residency.

The OP took a risk (hopefully having weighed the possible consequences) to write that post, knowing it would hurt their program. Either the OP figured they could stay anonymous (ie they're actually an intern or something) or felt so strongly about warning potential applicants that it was worth getting fired. To pretend that risk shouldn't exist shows a blindness to reality that is disturbing in someone who's going to have to deal with sub-optimal conditions their entire career (especially if it's in EM).

True, if physicans really could be compared to ordinary corporate businessmen. I just think the organizational culture of physians, especially residency programs, should be better than that. I may be biased because I trained at a place where it really felt more like a family than a company. As physicians, residents, attendings, we really should be wanting to compare residency programs to be more like schools or families, than galdly accepting comparison of ourselves to thugs and businessmen. Even if the status quo is that we are more like the mafia where you talk and you get shot, at least we shouldn't think that status quo is right.

Many of us(probably not me) will one day be in the position of power, maybe at a residency program. Just remember this thread and maybe, you will do things a little bit differently from the status quo.

 

[Birdstrike]

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[Arcan57]

True, if physicans really could be compared to ordinary corporate businessmen. I just think the organizational culture of physians, especially residency programs, should be better than that. I may be biased because I trained at a place where it really felt more like a family than a company. As physicians, residents, attendings, we really should be wanting to compare residency programs to be more like schools or families, than galdly accepting comparison of ourselves to thugs and businessmen. Even if the status quo is that we are more like the mafia where you talk and you get shot, at least we shouldn't think that status quo is right.

Many of us(probably not me) will one day be in the position of power, maybe at a residency program. Just remember this thread and maybe, you will do things a little bit differently from the status quo.

Physicians are human. Humans don't like it when something they are working very hard at is insulted, especially publicly. Most humans who are in a position to do something about the person that insulted them will do so. Especially humans that have gotten into positions of power. In fact, you probably wouldn't want to be in an institution where direct, public insults of the institute were tolerated.

I'm glad your residency felt like a family, I had a similar experience. But we were also taught that if you had a complaint, you also presented a solution at the same time. That tends to get results, not undirected griping.

 

[Apollyon]

True, if physicans really could be compared to ordinary corporate businessmen.

But corporate persons are jerks!