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Thanks to you all for your knowledge. I appreciate it so much that you do take the time to answer questions. It has helped me a lot throughout my medical school journey. I wish I could write a book for people who want to become doctors. Any way.
I have two questions the first is a personal statement question. The second is in regards to applying for SOAP having not applied to any programs in the regular season match.
Background:
Nontraditional student. I have five children who are 4, 13, 15, 17, 20 years old. I want to match into surgery (not what I thought I would want to do when I went to medical school but absolutely have an incredible passion for it).
Step 1: 191
Step 2: 226
CS second time pass ; My honest assessment at the risk of sounding ill prepared and ignorant: It was my patient note - simply put I did all of my patient charting on EMR I practiced but clearly not enough. I was very uncharacteristically nervous. I have never been nervous like that in a patient encounter. I am extremely comfortable. I wasn't expecting to be so nervous and thus was ill prepared for overcoming those feelings. It likely impacted every facet of my patient encounter but I imagine the most detrimental was absolutely in my note. I practiced with a fellow medical student (not my children as patients as I had done before) and practiced the note writing ad nauseum before retaking it a year or so later. I had to work a full year in order to pay for the exam again.
Who am I, why am I a surgeon (just waiting for a residency) and how do I convey that in one page?
I am fully committed to the profession- I went to a foreign caribbean medical school (I was naive)-first generation college graduate in my family. I continued even when I learned that my marriage would end if I continued, and my children remained in the states. I continued during my pregnancy with my fifth child. I have pushed very hard and worked and had to take masters classes concurrently with medical school to afford living expenses while in medical school. I have used my last dollar at the risk of my family being evicted from our apartment. Yes. Literally spent every single penny to take my CK. I have been working a job where I work for a company that is in China and I have to keep Chinese work hours (I love the job and the hours are wonderful for my lifestyle. It was such an incredible blessing to work a few hours a day while studying for CK and getting a paycheck the next month). My point is I am not a quitter and I am a hard worker. How do I convey this to programs in my personal statement? I had considered having it written by a company that does those things, but was advised not to. So what do I say? How do I say what I want to say eloquently?
Points that I think make my case very unusual but I am not sure I should share them.
* I was a high school drop out after it had gone out of style. I obtained my GED when I was 17.
* I was the first generation in my family to go to college and therefore obviously, graduate school.
* I was concurrently enrolled in Masters of Business Administration programs during medical school
* I went through a divorce in my second sememster of medical school
* I have five children. I like them.
* I honestly have always-at the risk of sounding cliche- wanted to be doctor. I didn't know it was my calling until medical school. I learned in my first introduction to clinical medicine that it was my calling. My first exposure to taking a history and creating a ddx was like putting on your favorite oversized sweatshirt and sitting next to the fireplace on a snowy day with a good book and a quiet movie. It was comfortable. It felt like all was right. Honestly, I do not know how else to explain it except that "calling" is the only word that fully defines that feeling. I felt the same way when I was exposed to the OR. I spent 26 hours in the hospital in my first rotation and it was one of my favorite days in the history of my medical education.
* I have fought through extreme poverty (I have eaten moldy bread because I had no money and no food during medical school, as well as noodles and butter) to make this my career. Not only poverty in medical school but my family has likely never been above the poverty bracket. I have always qualified for medicaid and food stamps.
* I really want to stay in the area where my children go to school and I have a life-Atlanta Georgia.
* I have worked jobs a lot of jobs to pay for my exams and questions banks. I worked 50 hours a week in a restaurant, four hours a month cleaning houses, and 20 hours a week in a medical clinic just to be able to pay for my Step 2 CK and CS.
* all of my preceptors have said that I will make an excellent physician. They highly recommend me for the profession.
* I was a student member of the ACOS.
How do I illustrate all of this or should I mention any of it?
2. I am applying only to SOAP this year because I did not have my Step 2 CK grade yet and I knew it would help my application if scored well. I didn't score as well as I wanted to but I was happy to know that I passed. I know many people who do not pass the first time. I felt very blessed because I knew it would be very difficulty to pay for the exam again.
How do I find the places that historically have filled spots using SOAP?
In reading the material it looks as if there is a "quiet period" where we are not allowed to call programs.
What is the advantage to paying for the SOAP rather than just applying after SOAP when I can contact programs?
Do I have a chance with categorical surgery position in the SOAP?
I really want to match this year. If I do not match where do I go to find a PGY-1 position off cycle?
Thank you so much for any insight.
I have two questions the first is a personal statement question. The second is in regards to applying for SOAP having not applied to any programs in the regular season match.
Background:
Nontraditional student. I have five children who are 4, 13, 15, 17, 20 years old. I want to match into surgery (not what I thought I would want to do when I went to medical school but absolutely have an incredible passion for it).
Step 1: 191
Step 2: 226
CS second time pass ; My honest assessment at the risk of sounding ill prepared and ignorant: It was my patient note - simply put I did all of my patient charting on EMR I practiced but clearly not enough. I was very uncharacteristically nervous. I have never been nervous like that in a patient encounter. I am extremely comfortable. I wasn't expecting to be so nervous and thus was ill prepared for overcoming those feelings. It likely impacted every facet of my patient encounter but I imagine the most detrimental was absolutely in my note. I practiced with a fellow medical student (not my children as patients as I had done before) and practiced the note writing ad nauseum before retaking it a year or so later. I had to work a full year in order to pay for the exam again.
Who am I, why am I a surgeon (just waiting for a residency) and how do I convey that in one page?
I am fully committed to the profession- I went to a foreign caribbean medical school (I was naive)-first generation college graduate in my family. I continued even when I learned that my marriage would end if I continued, and my children remained in the states. I continued during my pregnancy with my fifth child. I have pushed very hard and worked and had to take masters classes concurrently with medical school to afford living expenses while in medical school. I have used my last dollar at the risk of my family being evicted from our apartment. Yes. Literally spent every single penny to take my CK. I have been working a job where I work for a company that is in China and I have to keep Chinese work hours (I love the job and the hours are wonderful for my lifestyle. It was such an incredible blessing to work a few hours a day while studying for CK and getting a paycheck the next month). My point is I am not a quitter and I am a hard worker. How do I convey this to programs in my personal statement? I had considered having it written by a company that does those things, but was advised not to. So what do I say? How do I say what I want to say eloquently?
Points that I think make my case very unusual but I am not sure I should share them.
* I was a high school drop out after it had gone out of style. I obtained my GED when I was 17.
* I was the first generation in my family to go to college and therefore obviously, graduate school.
* I was concurrently enrolled in Masters of Business Administration programs during medical school
* I went through a divorce in my second sememster of medical school
* I have five children. I like them.
* I honestly have always-at the risk of sounding cliche- wanted to be doctor. I didn't know it was my calling until medical school. I learned in my first introduction to clinical medicine that it was my calling. My first exposure to taking a history and creating a ddx was like putting on your favorite oversized sweatshirt and sitting next to the fireplace on a snowy day with a good book and a quiet movie. It was comfortable. It felt like all was right. Honestly, I do not know how else to explain it except that "calling" is the only word that fully defines that feeling. I felt the same way when I was exposed to the OR. I spent 26 hours in the hospital in my first rotation and it was one of my favorite days in the history of my medical education.
* I have fought through extreme poverty (I have eaten moldy bread because I had no money and no food during medical school, as well as noodles and butter) to make this my career. Not only poverty in medical school but my family has likely never been above the poverty bracket. I have always qualified for medicaid and food stamps.
* I really want to stay in the area where my children go to school and I have a life-Atlanta Georgia.
* I have worked jobs a lot of jobs to pay for my exams and questions banks. I worked 50 hours a week in a restaurant, four hours a month cleaning houses, and 20 hours a week in a medical clinic just to be able to pay for my Step 2 CK and CS.
* all of my preceptors have said that I will make an excellent physician. They highly recommend me for the profession.
* I was a student member of the ACOS.
How do I illustrate all of this or should I mention any of it?
2. I am applying only to SOAP this year because I did not have my Step 2 CK grade yet and I knew it would help my application if scored well. I didn't score as well as I wanted to but I was happy to know that I passed. I know many people who do not pass the first time. I felt very blessed because I knew it would be very difficulty to pay for the exam again.
How do I find the places that historically have filled spots using SOAP?
In reading the material it looks as if there is a "quiet period" where we are not allowed to call programs.
What is the advantage to paying for the SOAP rather than just applying after SOAP when I can contact programs?
Do I have a chance with categorical surgery position in the SOAP?
I really want to match this year. If I do not match where do I go to find a PGY-1 position off cycle?
Thank you so much for any insight.