***solid Premed Program Or Bs/do Route***please Help And Give Suggestions

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So, I'm from Chicago area and am debating whether I go to a solid premed college or BS/DO route...

Nova Southeastern University: BS/DO program
Requirements: 24 MCAT, 3.3 GPA to stay in program with reserved seat in med school of NSU-COM, grades: A-C+
I can apply out to Medical schools my junior year of college, but I hear med schools don't like that?

OR PREMED program:

Knox College-Rush premed program requires A and B in all premed courses and then interview freshman year, also 100% med school acceptance rate last year: 2007 High GPA needed to compete for program

Loyola or U of I-decent premed program I hear, plus research and all that jazz, typical in my opinion, I think 80% med school accept. rate

UIC -I'm pretty sure I didn't get into GPPA🙁 oh well, that's life, you win some, you lose some🙂 So it would just be Honors Program...

***THINGS TO CONSIDER: I live in IL and the premed colleges are in IL while Nova is in Ft. Lauderdale, FL -21 hours away, HOWEVER Nova is actually cheaper for my family due to scholarships and its amazingly affordable tuition vs Loyola/UIC/Knox (Knox and Loyola are offering me little scholarships)

Also, the Nova program offers me a guaranteed seat already, but the other programs will be more difficult with more work required for higher MCAT, GPA, and anything else...Nova might be easier for me, but that's not to say it's a joke at that school, since all colleges require effort, but some colleges like NW require more effort...

WHAT DO YOU THINK, I WILL IN THE END BASE MY DECISION AFTER TALKING TO STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS/VISIT SCHOOLS/WITH MY FAMILY, BUT YOUR INPUT IS ENCOURAGED AND APPRECIATED🙂


I ONLY WANT ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS...PLEASE BE POSITIVE🙂
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Dude, you are giving this way too much thought. If you go to college with a clear goal and a solid work ethic, getting into med school will not be that hard for you. Don't get me wrong, you'll have to work hard, but you'll have some margin for error, and even some free time for some fun.

Go to school wherever you want to, take care of business, and enjoy yourself. Start worrying about what med school you want to go to in a few years.

To be honest, I'm not sure I'd do one of these BS/DO programs. You don't want to feel like you're locked in somewhere. IMO, your first option should always be the big, rich, cheap state school. Start looking at private DO schools, and all that debt, as an alternative later on.
 
You're driving us crazy! :boom:
 
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The way I see it, if you do well enough wherever you go to undergrad you will get into medical school anyway. Take your time in college to pursue your interests and have fun. Medical school will still be there a couple of years down the road and there is no need to lock yourself into a school just because of a linkage. I would go with the undergraduate school that you are most comfortable with and let the rest work itself out. Who knows, in three years of college you may find that some other pursuit is really your calling. Have fun, do the best you can in your classes and live it up while you can.
 
I agree, you need to chill out a bit or you are going to either burn out or have a heart attack by junior year. College is more then just 'a stepping stone' into medical school. You should chose your college based on if it is a place that will give you A WELL ROUNDED education, a place you will enjoy being for four years and a place that offers multiple opportunities in many areas. Don't pigeon hole yourself too soon
 
prionsRbad said:
You're driving us crazy! :boom:
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I think my head just exploded too, after seeing who started this thread. :laugh:

FuturePharm21, I thought you had already decided on the NSU-COM BS/DO program?

By the way, when you quote "acceptance rates" for various pre-med programs, you should understand how the statistic is manipulated to give misleading results. Many colleges will at least strongly discourage people with bad grades from applying to medical school in order to inflate the "accepted" statistic and make the college more appealing to anxious pre-meds. Even one of the programs you quoted requires a minimum GPA to be a "pre-med"...so it sounds like they're cherry-picking the students that have the highest chance of getting into med school anyway.
 
wanna_be_do said:
I think my head just exploded too, after seeing who started this thread. :laugh:

FuturePharm21, I thought you had already decided on the NSU-COM BS/DO program?

By the way, when you quote "acceptance rates" for various pre-med programs, you should understand how the statistic is manipulated to give misleading results. Many colleges will at least strongly discourage people with bad grades from applying to medical school in order to inflate the "accepted" statistic and make the college more appealing to anxious pre-meds. Even one of the programs you quoted requires a minimum GPA to be a "pre-med"...so it sounds like they're cherry-picking the students that have the highest chance of getting into med school anyway.
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This is VERY true. I had a large post all typed out with details about how I have come to know this, but I thought better of it and deleted it.

I'm with the crowd that says just go where you will be comfortable as an undergrad and perform well enough there to have many options in the future.
 
Well. I dont think BS/DO is the wrong route.. like many people on here do. I would have LOVED to have gotten into a program like that.. but I only applied to one, UIC GPPA because I didn't even KNOW about the other ones! Of course, I didn't get into GPPA.. only Honors.. but I did attend there. One thing I will say about UIC is that it is hard to schedule all of your classes in when you need to take them, and many bio majors end up taking 5 years because of it.. now, I got done in 3.5 because I would sit in front of the computer the first week of classes or the middle of winter break and wait for someone to drop the class i needed.. then Id take it, and subsequently change my entire schedule around those classes. It worked, though. The teachers are OK. They care more about their research than you.. though. Grading is quite tough.. so if you are looking for "easy" grades, you won't find them here..

but hey, I still got in. 🙂 I think if you go to ANY undergrad and do well, you will have a chance of going where you want (at least to the same area/state).. I didn't do well.. and Im suffering the consequences... not getting into anywhere in Chicago or Illinois.

All in all, im a very homebody.. I hate travelling.. I hate being away from home.. I hate being away from family.. so if you are like me, then maybe a Chicago school will be better for you..
 
1) It's my spring break and I have to decide what college I'm going to because of contracts, orientation planning, and all that jazz...Plus I have little to do and have become addicted to SDN and listing a lot of questions, so bear with me, or ignore me🙂

2) THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR DECISION FOR ME SINCE IF I DO THE BS/DO ROUTE, IT'S A 7 YEAR PROGRAM, AND CAN SHAPE RESIDENCY/MY FUTURE IN MANY WAYS....Therefore, I do not want make a quick, irrational decision lol plus I am very undecisive.

*I know many of you people think I am a total bookworm nerd type of person who will go to college to read, which is not true. I have friends, I like to watch movies, I like to volunteer. I have many interests and do plan on having fun in college....

**I am right now 80% leaning towards Nova and the BS/DO route since I get a guaranteed seat and I can apply out to med schools near Chicago my junior year....but right of that bat, my stress load decreased since my dreams of becoming a doctor are already set in place at that school.....as long as I fulfill requirements...

so let the comments keep coming, but please refrain from saying: Have fun, enjoy college, because that's a given AND WHAT I WANT TO SEE, IS PEOPLE WRITE ABOUT THE COLLEGES IF THEY VISITED OR WENT TO IT..

ANYONE FROM LOYOLA, UIC, KNOX OR NOVA? I am trying to decide which school has the BEST PREMED program and where I can get a well-rounded education with opportunities that will truly be endless...
 
ThisIsYourLife thanks for the advice, that's the kind of stuff I want to read, and I am kind of like you...I want to stay in Chicago, but I didn't get into UIC GPPA, only Honors Program, and many people think it's simply ok...

I think Nova is offering me better stuff and I will have more fun in Ft. Lauderdale for all you people lol that said go have fun haha

anyways thanks for your advice
 
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By the way, did you apply to UMKC 6 year program? It takes a lot of out of state kids.
 
no, I wish I had applied to UMKC, but I decided not to since my stats were only slightly higher than their min. requirements, but who knows, if I had gotten an interview, I might have had a chance, since I did well on the interviews I got for BS/DO programs...

Indeed, Loyola is a good university, but its costs are rising. That sucks what happened to you? Did you end up sticking to business or switch fields?

Loyola is offering me $8,500 scholarship per year, but the tuition is also high, I forgot the exact amount...Ironically, it's cheaper if I go to Nova Southeastern University in Ft. Lauderdale since their tuition is like UIC's and I am getting 9 grand a year, which is nice, plus it's a direct BS/DO guaranteed seat...

but yeah, I have a lot of friends/cousins that suggested going to Loyola and I would have enjoyed staying in Chicago....but I'm leaning towards Florida...lol I mean come on now after this year's 50 inches of snow, who isn't sick of Chi-town...
 
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how it might be better to do your degree's at separate universities. I have heard this from several people. It will make you more rounded in the eyes of some people. I don't know much about this, but along those lines, I know that the same philosophy applies to going to med school, doing your clinicals and residency all in the same spot.

Gosh, what is that called. You all know what I am talking about!
 
i knew a student who was in the early acceptance program at loyola chicago. i remember i got 100% on all three of the physics exams and he was struggling around the average of about 60-65%, heck i even tutored him when he told me he was in that program. I still think a better premed program would be better than the bs/do-md route.
 
here's a silly question, I went to school in a city that i ended up hating. was so happy to move out after 4 years. could you imagine going to a school in an area for 7 years that just plain sucked?
 
You should do the BS/DO program because medical school admittance will be more difficult in 4 years. This year is pretty much the peak of the population of high school seniors applying to college, so medical school applications should also have that peak in 4 years. Of course, there may also be an increased number of medical schools and increased class sizes. You are a very on the ball guy for pondering this BS/DO option. At most programs, acceptances are now at around 5%... If it were me with this option, I would pick BS/DO. I think that being in this program if it were me, would actually allow me to enjoy college more rather than less because I wouldn't be worrying, giving myself a heart attack over 5% odds. Instead, I'd just be worrying about achievable goals: a 3.3 and a 27 (or whatever it is.)
 
you say that until we get healthcare reform and no one wants to do medicine anymore
 
ps. if you care, the Honors program means actually jack ****. Its extra work for no reward. I was dropped from the program for getting a "D" in orgo.. but in the end, it didn't matter.. because.. nobody cared. (no schools, that is)
 
HrvatskiDoktor said:
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how it might be better to do your degree's at separate universities. I have heard this from several people. It will make you more rounded in the eyes of some people. I don't know much about this, but along those lines, I know that the same philosophy applies to going to med school, doing your clinicals and residency all in the same spot.

Gosh, what is that called. You all know what I am talking about!
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At Harvard when you do undergrad, med school and residency there, they call it Preparation-H. :meanie:

(If it doesn't come to you right away, just think about it for a second :laugh:)
 
Pursue the option of going into the BS/DO program. You will start making money early and you probably won't need to deal with the MCATs/pre med competition.
 
yeah I am doing BS/DO probably, but I don't know why people are saying that I will do residency/training in Ft. Lauderdale? Just because I go their for undergrad, doesn't mean I am even going to their osteopathic medical school: I have the option to apply out to other allopathic/osteopathic medical schools around the nation. But if I do bad on MCAT or mess up my GPA, I can count on NSU-COM since I have a guaranteed seat as long as I get a 24 MCAT/3.3 GPA? I wonder if that's hard to get?

Anyways, I hope to do residency in midwest, preferably Chicago, any thoughts on that?
 
Ohh, you do need to take the MCATs regardless of whether you take the 7 year BS/DO program. In that case, I think you're better off with the pre-med option in UIC ESPECIALLY since you don't want to attend medical school at NSU.

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FuturePharm21 said:
So, I'm from Chicago area and am debating whether I go to a solid premed college or BS/DO route...

Nova Southeastern University: BS/DO program
Requirements: 24 MCAT, 3.3 GPA to stay in program with reserved seat in med school of NSU-COM, grades: A-C+
I can apply out to Medical schools my junior year of college, but I hear med schools don't like that?

OR PREMED program:

Knox College-Rush premed program requires A and B in all premed courses and then interview freshman year, also 100% med school acceptance rate last year: 2007 High GPA needed to compete for program

Loyola or U of I-decent premed program I hear, plus research and all that jazz, typical in my opinion, I think 80% med school accept. rate

UIC -I'm pretty sure I didn't get into GPPA🙁 oh well, that's life, you win some, you lose some🙂 So it would just be Honors Program...

***THINGS TO CONSIDER: I live in IL and the premed colleges are in IL while Nova is in Ft. Lauderdale, FL -21 hours away, HOWEVER Nova is actually cheaper for my family due to scholarships and its amazingly affordable tuition vs Loyola/UIC/Knox (Knox and Loyola are offering me little scholarships)

Also, the Nova program offers me a guaranteed seat already, but the other programs will be more difficult with more work required for higher MCAT, GPA, and anything else...Nova might be easier for me, but that's not to say it's a joke at that school, since all colleges require effort, but some colleges like NW require more effort...

WHAT DO YOU THINK, I WILL IN THE END BASE MY DECISION AFTER TALKING TO STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS/VISIT SCHOOLS/WITH MY FAMILY, BUT YOUR INPUT IS ENCOURAGED AND APPRECIATED🙂


I ONLY WANT ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS...PLEASE BE POSITIVE🙂
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are you desi? if so, hahahahaha sooooooo stereotypical.
 
LauraDO said:
I agree, you need to chill out a bit or you are going to either burn out or have a heart attack by junior year. College is more then just 'a stepping stone' into medical school. You should chose your college based on if it is a place that will give you A WELL ROUNDED education, a place you will enjoy being for four years and a place that offers multiple opportunities in many areas. Don't pigeon hole yourself too soon
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I agree.. you really should go someplace where you will be able to explore different fields because you may discover you don't want to be a doctor after all. I know several people who went into college and were positive they wanted to be a doc, only to find something else that they enjoyed more. I really don't know much about all of those schools, but at Nova would you have any other options?
 
LauraDO said:
I agree, you need to chill out a bit or you are going to either burn out or have a heart attack by junior year. College is more then just 'a stepping stone' into medical school. You should chose your college based on if it is a place that will give you A WELL ROUNDED education, a place you will enjoy being for four years and a place that offers multiple opportunities in many areas. Don't pigeon hole yourself too soon
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I have to disagree with this a bit.. Ive known I wanted to be a doctor since I was four. I only used college as a stepping stone. I never looked at any other majors, nothing. Because nothing else interests me.. I chose my college because it is a good pre-med school (lots of hospitals around for volunteering, pre-med school by nature), and thats it. Sure, I had some fun too.. but I didn't use college for much else than to get into medical school. I didn't even attend my graduation, because, honestly, i could care less about college.. med school is what Ive always wanted. So nobody should assume (and Laura I dont mean this at you even though I am quoting your thing) that everybody needs college for other things.. not everybody does. I think you should go wherever you want to undergrad.. if you are comfortable moving away (no ties here really) then go for the BS/DO and MAKE SURE you apply out unless you REALLY love Nova.. that way you have options and if nothing else, then you still have Nova!.. I had a friend in UIC GPPA who didn't apply out, and now regrets it.. because his grades could have gotten him into much better schools. Thats just what i think..
 
I'm having crazy deja-vu. I could have sworn I told the OP two days ago to stop making these god damn threads and to listen to people when they tell him to calm down and not worry about this stuff. Oh well, I must have been thinking about something else. No one would be annoying enough to make 5 threads about the same topic within a week or so, especially after receiving proper answers and being asked to stop.
 
JaggerPlate said:
I'm having crazy deja-vu. I could have sworn I told the OP two days ago to stop making these god damn threads and to listen to people when they tell him to calm down and not worry about this stuff. Oh well, I must have been thinking about something else. No one would be annoying enough to make 5 threads about the same topic within a week or so, especially after receiving proper answers and being asked to stop.
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I know I could have sworn I've seen/said the same things over and over. 😕

FuturePharm-- I think after all these responses you should know this by now:
- Some people think you should do BS/DO, most don't.
- Everyone thinks you should go to the school where you feel most comfortable (regular pre-med or BS/DO) and not worry so much about residency, like you even said you could apply to another med school if you don't like NOVA or where ever you go.
-Most people think you need more experience "exploring" other things before you can know you want to go to med school, but as long as you do that in pre-med or BS/DO we'll all be more confident that you know what you're doing.
-We can't make the decision for you. And trust me I would have liked someone who could tell me what was best for me, but only you can do that.


I'm going to try to stop reading the OPs posts now, but they are mildly more entertaining than my homework.
 
okay well just to clear things up, Yes similar questions have been posted in similar threads by me, BUT they questions are different, some involve choosing a BS/DO program, and thanks to everyone's input/family discussions/calling schools, I have made that decision: Nova's BS/DO program

next thing, I decided that BS/DO program was best of the other 3-4 I got into because of stuff including the links I provided above, anyways then many people told me to consider doing traditional premed at a college near me, so I was confused...but as of now, I still think the BS/DO route is safer, and Nova will give me more opportunities for fun, growth, academic achievement, and in the end the guarantee if something happens, that I have a reserved seat

so sorry if I bothered someone this week, but I am being annoying and I understand that,but I guess I got addicted to this site and posting questions, I happen to be a very curious person and I am the type of person that plans ahead/sets a lot goals...anyways in a few days, spring break will be over, and I will be back to hectic school/activities....

*just to clear the name thing up: this is my brother's account who wants to be a pharmacist, not mine, I want to be a doctor....as you know🙂

why the hell is it snowing in Chicago!!! I can't wait to go Ft. Lauderdale lol
 
FuturePharm21 said:
anyways in a few days, spring break will be over, and I will be back to hectic school/activities....
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Oh. My. God. PLEASE spend your HIGH SCHOOL spring break doing something other than stay inside all day reading SDN!!! Seriously. Go outside. Do something active. Call up some friends. Give your eyes a break from the glow of the screen. The only excuse for being on SDN over spring break as much as you have this week is if you're in college and studying for the April MCAT. That's it. There is no other time that it could be considered appropriate. Glad you could get some of your questions answered, but now go be a normal teenager and calm down!
 
FuturePharm21 said:
okay well just to clear things up, Yes similar questions have been posted in similar threads by me, BUT they questions are different, some involve choosing a BS/DO program, and thanks to everyone's input/family discussions/calling schools, I have made that decision: Nova's BS/DO program

next thing, I decided that BS/DO program was best of the other 3-4 I got into because of stuff including the links I provided above, anyways then many people told me to consider doing traditional premed at a college near me, so I was confused...but as of now, I still think the BS/DO route is safer, and Nova will give me more opportunities for fun, growth, academic achievement, and in the end the guarantee if something happens, that I have a reserved seat

so sorry if I bothered someone this week, but I am being annoying and I understand that,but I guess I got addicted to this site and posting questions, I happen to be a very curious person and I am the type of person that plans ahead/sets a lot goals...anyways in a few days, spring break will be over, and I will be back to hectic school/activities....

*just to clear the name thing up: this is my brother's account who wants to be a pharmacist, not mine, I want to be a doctor....as you know🙂

why the hell is it snowing in Chicago!!! I can't wait to go Ft. Lauderdale lol
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Thank goodness you have made a decision!!! Congratulations on landing this program again. Have faith that you made the correct choice for yourself and quit doubting it with all these crazy threads!!! Also, there is nothing wrong with being curious on this site, like you said - that is the point of it, but the site has a great search engine that I suggest using for future concerns. Good luck, and enjoy the rest of your spring break.
 
Thank goodness you have made a decision!!!

lol wait now I want to be a MD no wait what about dentistry? lol wait I like pharmacy more haha

just kidding, yeah I'm 95% now going to Nova but I guess the 5% doubts, apprehensions, and anxiety will stay with me until next fall? I think it's natural to be nervous about starting college in a whole new state?

Well, anyways any advice, suggestions, and input on getting off to good start in college meaning first semester classes and stuff like that? On second thought, don't answer that, I think that question is worthy of a new thread🙂
I have 3 more days then school🙁
 
Thank goodness you have made a decision!!!

lol wait now I want to be a MD no wait what about dentistry? lol wait I like pharmacy more haha

just kidding, yeah I'm 95% now going to Nova but I guess the 5% doubts, apprehensions, and anxiety will stay with me until next fall? I think it's natural to be nervous about starting college in a whole new state?

Well, anyways any advice, suggestions, and input on getting off to good start in college meaning first semester classes and stuff like that? On second thought, don't answer that, I think that question is worthy of a new thread🙂

I have 3 more days then school, and I will check forums fewer times but then 2 more months till graduation!!!!
 
skier, lol I went to see a movie yesterday and hung out with friends a few days ago, so I haven't been on SDN all of break, but it's the first time I really went to SDN, so I was like going crazy lol???

anyways, there's nothing to do outside since I'm in Chicago, and it's snowing/rainy/cloudy all of break, the only fun stuff is to go out at night...

anyways any fun stuff in Ft. Lauderdale ??????
 
There's nothing wrong with it. I just had the feeling that you were looking towards another medical school based on your first post. But now you seem content with NSU, you indecisive pre-med kid! :meanie:
I would have picked the same option as you (7 year program) so that I can start making money earlier and save time. I think it is a wiser option as many DO students also specialize annually. In addition, you don't need to face the whole application competition as a seat is reserved for you with stats that are very very "do-able".
 
I must admit that I am loving your percent break downs regarding life decisions. You are at 95% now which is good ... but I'm 99% sure that you are 100% fine, and 80% sure that at least 75% of people starting college in a different state feel around a 60% level of natural stress and worry. If I were you I would only dedicate around 10% of your time to SDN and 90% enjoying your life and getting ready for college. I would also spend 0% time worrying about residencies or anything else. Also, I am 100% sure I never want to see you make another thread concerning this topic :laugh: 👍
 
Science H. Logic, this is getting ridiculous.

Kid, here is what you need to do: go to college somewhere you will enjoy. Preferably somewhere that you'll know some people to party with. But don't party too much, or get an STD. Take care of your business, but go to some parties, football/basketball games, and touch the occasional boobie.

Getting into med school is not the impossible task you make it out to be. Just go to college somewhere, take care of business, and you'll be fine.
 
I would do the BS/DO program at NOVA. Just my 2 cents.

I thought getting into med school was pretty damn difficult and stressful, if you could get into college and med school at the same time why not?

Also I think your forethought and maturity is something to admire, not sneer at like many of the posters in this thread.
 
sexyman, lol that's a first, and I appreciate it🙂

anyways, what's the best advice to starting freshman year off on a good foot, meaning starting with a HIGH GPA and taking relatively easier classes. I did this in high school and it helped, because my GPA/class rank fell slightly junior year, but I had established a strong foundation...*I know that they want to see improvement, but I am meaning to ask which classes should a first semester/second sem premed take??
 
FuturePharm21 said:
sexyman, lol that's a first, and I appreciate it🙂

anyways, what's the best advice to starting freshman year off on a good foot, meaning starting with a HIGH GPA and taking relatively easier classes. I did this in high school and it helped, because my GPA/class rank fell slightly junior year, but I had established a strong foundation...*I know that they want to see improvement, but I am meaning to ask which classes should a first semester/second sem premed take??
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Your first two years are already pretty much mapped out for you. I understand being all excited and gung-ho, but please remember to have fun. I know others have said that, and I know you have given examples, but take the advice. There is nothing for you to do over the summer except enjoy it. Leave all the research and classwork for the school year. I say this from med school experience b/c once you are here, you are going to wish you had more time, so enjoy it while you have it. Yes, your enthusaism is welcomed, but you should be excited to have free time too.
 
someone close this thread. The OP is merely trying to seek attention from others..he's spammed some similar and exact same threads here at a different forum, college confidential. Threads range from caps locked titles like "Which BS/DO program do I choose?", "Nova Southeastern Dual Admission program student-Admitted Students", "Which BS/DO program do I choose? PLEASE HELP", "
Nova Southeastern Dual Admission program BS/DO program in Ft. Lauderdale", "Doctor or Dentist", "A SOLID PRE-MED PROGRAM or BS/DO ROUTE???", "***Fall 2008-Where are people going? Students choosing BS/DO programs???"

He's been rejected from all the BA/MD programs he applied to and I guess that's why he's overly excited about his DO acceptance...
OP is a bit immature for his age.
 
illinois187 said:
someone close this thread. The OP is merely trying to seek attention from others..he's spammed some similar and exact same threads here at a different forum, college confidential. Threads range from caps locked titles like "Which BS/DO program do I choose?", "Nova Southeastern Dual Admission program student-Admitted Students", "Which BS/DO program do I choose? PLEASE HELP", "
Nova Southeastern Dual Admission program BS/DO program in Ft. Lauderdale", "Doctor or Dentist", "A SOLID PRE-MED PROGRAM or BS/DO ROUTE???", "***Fall 2008-Where are people going? Students choosing BS/DO programs???"

He's been rejected from all the BA/MD programs he applied to and I guess that's why he's overly excited about his DO acceptance...
OP is a bit immature for his age.
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He is immature for a 17/18 year old? He just seems like a neurotic high school kid, who as you pointed out, probably does have a little too much enthusiasm.
I do agree he has extreme lengths to go as far as maturing, but that is what happens in most people's lives between high school and college.
More than likely he will probably end up changing his mind to not wanting to do anything with medicine at all, but I don't exactly see the harm he is doing in inquiring. If you don't like his threads simply don't open them, you can see who the author is before clicking on the link...
 
Illinois187, did you know that getting accepted to some bs/md programs is HARDER than the traditional method of getting into medical schools because in some of the programs have a 5-10% acceptance rate with 200-400 people applying...I did get a few interviews though, and I kind of knew that the competition is so fierce that I would get accepted to a BS/DO program, but I don't mind...a DO = MD in my book

Illinois187, Where are you going for college or what college are you in currently?

yeah, I agree with MLT... if people don't want to respond to my immature questions/ideas, feel free to ignore them or answer other questions on other threads, I don't mind at all because I know I am getting annoying-I don't care, this forum is for any questions-I have seen laptop questions, game stuff, dog inquiries, and other bizarre things, so IT'S SIMPLE: IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE QUESTION/THE PERSON WHO ASKED IT- DON'T ANSWER🙂

 
illinois187 said:
someone close this thread. The OP is merely trying to seek attention from others..he's spammed some similar and exact same threads here at a different forum, college confidential. Threads range from caps locked titles like "Which BS/DO program do I choose?", "Nova Southeastern Dual Admission program student-Admitted Students", "Which BS/DO program do I choose? PLEASE HELP", "
Nova Southeastern Dual Admission program BS/DO program in Ft. Lauderdale", "Doctor or Dentist", "A SOLID PRE-MED PROGRAM or BS/DO ROUTE???", "***Fall 2008-Where are people going? Students choosing BS/DO programs???"

He's been rejected from all the BA/MD programs he applied to and I guess that's why he's overly excited about his DO acceptance...
OP is a bit immature for his age.
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Everyone is entitled to post questions here, annoying or not, and, even though he's still in high school, the OP is a Pre-DO.

That said, annoying the people you're trying to get information from by starting a bunch of similar threads about your unique situation is likely to be counterproductive, as well as just plain rude. It's a common thing to do when you're brand-new on a forum, but I think the OP is getting the message at this point that one meaningful and well thought-out question gets much better responses than starting a bunch of random and off-the-cuff threads. 👍
 
yeah sorry about all the questions, I am new to a forum just this week, and got crazy, I should have been concise to be more productive.

On that note, all the perspectives, viewpoints, and stuff I learned from others has helped me a lot. the positive feedback and info has been greatly appreciated.

thanks to all that gave good advice and continue to give constructive criticism,

-FutureDr08
 
your join date is november
 
FuturePharm21 said:
Illinois187, did you know that getting accepted to some bs/md programs is HARDER than the traditional method of getting into medical schools because in some of the programs have a 5-10% acceptance rate with 200-400 people applying...I did get a few interviews though, and I kind of knew that the competition is so fierce that I would get accepted to a BS/DO program, but I don't mind...a DO = MD in my book
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Sorry to keep this going, but 200-400 people applying for 10-40 (5-10%) spots I'm assuming you're referring to is NOT easier by your reasoning, than getting into medical school, the best odds that I saw for a DO spot for class of 2010 were at KCUMB with ~10.6% of applicants matriculating but an average of 6.4% of all DO applicants matriculating. Or since that data is a bit incomplete we could look at the class of 2009 which has an average matriculation of ~7.6% for DO schools.

Now for both BS/MDorDO and regular MD/DO applicants schools will accept more people than will actually matriculate but we don't have those numbers.

For MD schools: In the 2007 application year (class of 2011) there was an average of 5.6% of applicants matriculating with a range of 1.3%-20%

And also keep in mind for all schools people tend to apply to schools which they feel they have better "odds" of getting into on top of where they'd like to live and curriculum and all that. So you cannot say that BS/MD programs are more difficult to get into than MD or DO alone based on those numbers.

http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/cib2008.pdf

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2007/2007school.htm
 
Your correct 100% that getting into an MD and DO school is much harder, but I was just saying that BS/MD program are very selective/competitive. That's why I said only "some programs", but of course these programs pose many advantages, the main being, reserving a seat in medical school, that make many applicants apply.
 
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