speciality training ... in the UK

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i would love to know what is like to undergo speciliality training in the UK?
what about surgery ?do the attendings teach u ? do they enjoy passing their knowledge to the next generation?

thanks a lot !
 

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We don't have attendings, we have consultants! Whatever your level you get teaching from those above you, how else did you think you would learn?
 

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thanks bambi :) well , getting tought is not always the case .
there are countries in eruope where u hardly operate.
do u operate a lot as primary surgeon?
 

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i would love to know what is like to undergo speciliality training in the UK?
what about surgery ?do the attendings teach u ? do they enjoy passing their knowledge to the next generation?

thanks a lot !
This is actually a really smart question. In the U.S. (even though attending physicians/surgeons run the team), it really is the residents that do the day-to-day teaching on rounds. If they are good, you get a great education. I'm interviewing for residency positions right now and, believe me, the quality of the residents really does influence you.

My experience of the British health care model is limited to an intense one-month elective in the U.K. but, still, consultants pretty much only teach when they run consultant's rounds. It's the doctors below the consultant who you present patients to and run your plan by. Maybe this is unique to the British hospital I was placed at, but that's pretty much what happened. Not that different from the U.S.
 
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hey thanks ! good info!
in some european countries they only teach very seldom ... thats y i am asking ....and u dont operate as primary surgeon.... but u do all the administrative work! u r more of a secretary... is this same in the UK or USA?
 

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thanks bambi :) well , getting tought is not always the case .
there are countries in eruope where u hardly operate.
do u operate a lot as primary surgeon?

At what level do you mean? You obviously wont be the primary surgeon early on!
 

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no .... not early on ... but what about " see one , do one " !
that would be cool and def. increase ur learning process!
 

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It's def not see one, do one, teach one. I doubt it is like that anywhere when it comes to actual surgery. It will be a good few years post grad before you are the primary surgeon, exactly how long will depend on specialty and individual procedure. A friend of mine is an ST1 (3rd year post grad) in general surgery and only did his first circumcision the other day as the main surgeon and even then he wasn't just left to do it, seniors were there too.
 

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greetings !

I would like to know for a non-EU citizen who graduated from an european university from the EU nation, what is the realistic chance of getting a specialist training position either in Ireland or in UK ? And how does it work ?
Thanks
 

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greetings !

I would like to know for a non-EU citizen who graduated from an european university from the EU nation, what is the realistic chance of getting a specialist training position either in Ireland or in UK ? And how does it work ?
Thanks

I think its unlikely. They don't accept non-EU citizens who graduate from EU medical schools. You need to prove that you are the only person capable for the job and you won't be able to prove that.
 

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Even if I made my medical studies in english and in an European country ?
 

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Hi after getting my plab and registering thru the GMC council for uk residency, how can I proceed? Which hospitals I the UK r considered a good training place for internal medicine residents? Where an I find the ranking of teaching hospitals on the UK ?

Thank you
 

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Hi after getting my plab and registering thru the GMC council for uk residency, how can I proceed? Which hospitals I the UK r considered a good training place for internal medicine residents? Where an I find the ranking of teaching hospitals on the UK ?

Thank you

There is no ranking. You just apply to the hospitals you want to go to. Generally, Oxbridge, London, Edinburgh have good hospitals, but Birmingham, Dundee, Manchester all have great hospitals too. Usually the most competitive hospitals are in London mostly because of the variety of cases and the fact that many of the top consultants work in London on top of the desirability of living in a large city. However, more rural hospitals also have the advantage of more access to procedures and possibly better access to teaching and opportunities.
 

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Is there any chance for an IMG graduate, holder of MRCP and gmc registration to secure a training post in any hospital in the UK ... I am looking for acute internal medicine or cardiology .
I can prove I have the required skills and commitment for the speciality.
Is there any hope? Or should I try somewhere else?
 
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