Specialty

[deleted31120]

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Anybody know the percentage of students that get into a Specialty, at nova ????

 

[Yah-E]

We've been told that roughly 40% of our graduates go into a Post-doctoral training. This number included graduates going into AEGD and GPR.

 

[blankguy]

What are the benefits of General Practice Residency?
I heard that it is an extra year of training before working.
The downside is that you don't get paid.

 

[UBTom]

Originally posted by blankguy
What are the benefits of General Practice Residency?
I heard that it is an extra year of training before working.
The downside is that you don't get paid.

You DO get paid as a GPR resident. How much depends on the program. Here in NYC the average pay for GPR residents is ~$40K for that one year.

 

[endotom]

Folks,

I was the head of the Endodontics Department in a GPR in a hospital near where I live. These programs used to be thought of as a remedial class for dental school. Only the people who didn't feel confident in going right into practice went there. The people who didn't do well in the clinic.
Nowdays it is a great way to see a variety of difficult cases with specialists in every field giving you close attention. You can learn an unbelievable amount and see things most dentists will never see in thier lifetime. It is a great way to get a variety of cases in more of a group practice environment. It can also be a benifit if you plan to apply to specialty programs. They are pretty competive now and pay better than you think considering what you are getting out of it.

endotom

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by blankguy
What are the benefits of General Practice Residency?
I heard that it is an extra year of training before working.
The downside is that you don't get paid.

I'm under the impression that MANDATING a PGY of training (such as a GPR/AEGD or specialty program) would add some weight to our degree, especially in the eyes of our medical colleagues.

I believe some of them find it unfathomable that we can practice dentistry right after graduating, and because of this they still view our profession as a vocation rather than an integrated study of biological systems.

Personally, I'd have no problems with a mandatory 5th year of dental school.

 

[bsso2005]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
I'm under the impression that MANDATING a PGY of training (such as a GPR/AEGD or specialty program) would add some weight to our degree, especially in the eyes of our medical colleagues.

I believe some of them find it unfathomable that we can practice dentistry right after graduating, and because of this they still view our profession as a vocation rather than an integrated study of biological systems.

Personally, I'd have no problems with a mandatory 5th year of dental school.

Some people love school way too much. But really, if you have issues with self esteem because some view our profession as you say "vocational" then by all means do a GPR or deccelerate and go a 5th year but don't speak for the rest of us. Not to be confused with trying to impress the MD's a GPR is for the purpose of enhancing your clinical skills before going out on your own or appling for specialties. If you really do feel inferior to the MD's now then I feel sorry for you because you haven't even begun your career. When you've hit rock bottom wondering why you chose dentistry instead of medicine remember that you chose the profession because you love dentistry and all it has to offer. You enjoy the flexibility of being able to design your own practice to how you see fit by treating the cases that intrigue you and referring out those that don't or are beyond your scope. I am sure that these are the reasons you chose dentistry but maybe you just needed a little a reminder. 😀

 

[groundhog]

I think there is a bit of hubris that gets tossed into the rationalizations behind the existance of various MD/DDS specialities. On the one hand I can invision that dentistry itself could be a medical specilaity in which the graduates of said post doc programs would be trained to do all of the various dental surgery procedures and who would get their referrals from MD family practitioners who would do the routine oral exams, sealants, cleanings etc. On the other hand, I see no reason why some MD speciality programs such as opthamology, and orthopedic surgery could not be modeled after dental and podiatry programs in which the students get down to the actual hands on procedures with real people after just two years of learning the applicable health sciences and surgical techniques.

 

[Supernumerary]

I tend to agree with bsso; I don't think there is a need for our degree to "carry more weight." I mean, whether they respect us or not, where else are people going to go? 🙂

I am friends with several medical residents and as far as I can tell -apart from the insanely long hours and crappy pay- a medical residency is not much different from what most of us will be doing in good associateships. We will be mentored under an experienced clinician, take lots of CE, and basically just start honing our skills. It's the same thing physicians are doing in the hospital.

Dentistry just isn't a good fit for everybody to do a hospital style residency. 99.9% of new dentists manage not to kill or maim any patients within the first five years of practice; it seems that 4 years of dental school provides enough of a foundation to begin practice.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by bsso2005
Some people love school way too much. But really, if you have issues with self esteem because some view our profession as you say "vocational" then by all means do a GPR or deccelerate and go a 5th year but don't speak for the rest of us. Not to be confused with trying to impress the MD's a GPR is for the purpose of enhancing your clinical skills before going out on your own or appling for specialties. If you really do feel inferior to the MD's now then I feel sorry for you because you haven't even begun your career. When you've hit rock bottom wondering why you chose dentistry instead of medicine remember that you chose the profession because you love dentistry and all it has to offer. You enjoy the flexibility of being able to design your own practice to how you see fit by treating the cases that intrigue you and referring out those that don't or are beyond your scope. I am sure that these are the reasons you chose dentistry but maybe you just needed a little a reminder. 😀

Thanks for taking the time to respond, but the bulk of your post is in response to claims that I never made, nor did I allude to.

The point which I wanted to make, and apparently failed miserably at, was that I'm not at all against a 5th year of training that would act to replace regional board licensure--similar to what has been done in NY.

By the way, I've noticed that of your 6 posts on SDN, 4 of those are devoted to you telling other people how to fix their inferiority complexes.

 

[init4damoney]

Originally posted by ItsGavinC
Thanks for taking the time to respond, but the bulk of your post is in response to claims that I never made, nor did I allude to.

The point which I wanted to make, and apparently failed miserably at, was that I'm not at all against a 5th year of training that would act to replace regional board licensure--similar to what has been done in NY.

By the way, I've noticed that of your 6 posts on SDN, 4 of those are devoted to you telling other people how to fix their inferiority complexes.

Como he amado, amad a otros......


J/K, you know I love ya!

 

[ItsGavinC]

Originally posted by init4damoney
Como he amado, amad a otros......


J/K, you know I love ya!

Esta bien. Estoy estudiando y tengo hambre y me falta dormir mas, etc., etc. Tu sabes.

 

[deleted31120]

Q I have heard dental students can enter a speciality in their third and forth years just wondering if this depends on the school or standard for most schools.

Does anyone know if NOVA accepts third year students in a speciality

 

[UBTom]

I can be wrong, but I have never seen a specialty/postgrad program in the U.S. that admits someone who did not earn a DDS/DMD (or foreign equivalent) yet.