Speed / Efficiency with H & P'S

[ntxawmx]

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Hi fellow med students...

Doing medicine right now and I got 2 admissions tonight and it literally took me nearly 6 hours to complete them! That is just not ok! I know people keep telling me it will get faster but it just doesn't feel that way.

Anyone else out there slower than a turtle? Anyone with suggestions on how to be more efficient and finish these H & P's in a timely manner -- I'm talking about the medicine ones where the patient has a problem list that exceeds 10 things and a med list that approaches 30 items.

thanks for any input. I'm afraid that when intern year comes, I'll just not be good enough.

Thanks.

😱

 

[doc05]

yeah, 6 hours is a lot of time. not to worry -- you'll learn to do things faster.

 

[Koko]

Don't get down on yourself. It's far better to start off being slow, but comprehensive versus fast and deficient - easier to pare down than to add. What worked for me was seeing how good interns and senior residents did their H&Ps and picking up pointers from them. You will decide for yourself how to speed up the process, when and what you can skimp on, etc. Like a lot in medicine, practice and repetition work wonders.

Good luck and be positive.

 

[Apollyon]

You will get better - it almost a fact. You will get to a point that your hand will hurt from writing so much, so fast. You will look at it when you're done and be surprised, but satisfied.

 

[Gulliver]

Hi fellow med students...

Doing medicine right now and I got 2 admissions tonight and it literally took me nearly 6 hours to complete them! That is just not ok! I know people keep telling me it will get faster but it just doesn't feel that way.

Anyone else out there slower than a turtle? Anyone with suggestions on how to be more efficient and finish these H & P's in a timely manner -- I'm talking about the medicine ones where the patient has a problem list that exceeds 10 things and a med list that approaches 30 items.

thanks for any input. I'm afraid that when intern year comes, I'll just not be good enough.

Thanks.
😱

Eh, you'll get faster when you realize how little of that crap you actually have to include.

Oh, and for the assessment part where you show your "thinking" - the gold standard is to cut'n'paste from uptodate. I was very slow to cotten on to that one. Generally no one will tell you this. Watching you struggle with it, like a tool, is part of the passive-agggressive ritual of medical training. 😉

 

[12R34Y]

Eh, you'll get faster when you realize how little of that crap you actually have to include.

Oh, and for the assessment part where you show your "thinking" - the gold standard is to cut'n'paste from uptodate. I was very slow to cotten on to that one. Generally no one will tell you this. Watching you struggle with it, like a tool, is part of the passive-agggressive ritual of medical training. 😉

Never ever heard of that before. Been through almost every service now at end of third year and have never seen a resident/intern/senior/student do anywhere near that sort of assessment that includes uptodate.

wierd.

later

 

[Pox in a box]

Eh, you'll get faster when you realize how little of that crap you actually have to include.

Oh, and for the assessment part where you show your "thinking" - the gold standard is to cut'n'paste from uptodate. I was very slow to cotten on to that one. Generally no one will tell you this. Watching you struggle with it, like a tool, is part of the passive-agggressive ritual of medical training. 😉

Can you clarify the "cut'n'past from uptodate" comment?

 

[phoenixsupra]

Eh, you'll get faster when you realize how little of that crap you actually have to include.

Oh, and for the assessment part where you show your "thinking" - the gold standard is to cut'n'paste from uptodate. I was very slow to cotten on to that one. Generally no one will tell you this. Watching you struggle with it, like a tool, is part of the passive-agggressive ritual of medical training. 😉

So true. 👍

 

[scootad.]

it comes with practice, but in reality you'll be forced to get efficient if you wanna pass Step 2 CS - perhaps this is the only redeeming quality of this
G-d awful test (although it doesnt accurately reflect the way real pts present).

 

[phoenixsupra]

it comes with practice, but in reality you'll be forced to get efficient if you wanna pass Step 2 CS - perhaps this is the only redeeming quality of this
G-d awful test (although it doesnt accurately reflect the way real pts present).

Scootad, would you mind sharing your cs experience. Theres a new thread about it in the usmle/comlex forum. Thanks. 🙂