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I am trying to put together a bit of info for future students of St. Georges who are interested in pursuing a surgical residency. If you went to SGU can you please list where you did your third year rotations and electives during fourth year and also where you matched. Any other additional info would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

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HEME-ONC said:
I am trying to put together a bit of info for future students of St. Georges who are interested in pursuing a surgical residency. If you went to SGU can you please list where you did your third year rotations and electives during fourth year and also where you matched. Any other additional info would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

My GF went there. Graduated in 2004. Did her rotations at Jamaica Hosp (NY), then Maryland General Hosp in her final year. She matched into Surgery at Albany Medical Center and is about to complete her first year there.
 
HEME-ONC said:
I am trying to put together a bit of info for future students of St. Georges who are interested in pursuing a surgical residency. If you went to SGU can you please list where you did your third year rotations and electives during fourth year and also where you matched. Any other additional info would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

I'm graduating this year. Did my 3rd year at Jamaica hospital, did 4th year all over the place; Brooklyn Hospital, Lutheran Medical Center, Flushing Hospital.
 
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shahkg said:
I'm graduating this year. Did my 3rd year at Jamaica hospital, did 4th year all over the place; Brooklyn Hospital, Lutheran Medical Center, Flushing Hospital.


Have you matched anywhere?
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HEME-ONC said:
Have you matched anywhere?
Thanks

Didn't match for a Cat. spot, doing a Prelim year. Had to scramble post match; one of the worst experiences of my life. SGU did **** to help me, f*ck them. I hate that school. All they are in the business of doing is "manufacturing" doctors.
 
Wow,
I'm sorry to hear that! I usually hear great things about student matching in general surgery from SGU. What could they have done to help you out?

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HEME-ONC said:
Wow,
I'm sorry to hear that! I usually hear great things about student matching in general surgery from SGU. What could they have done to help you out?

Thanks

The last 2 years have been rough for IMGs. GS is becoming very competetive since the "80h rule".

-3 of my friends (from Ross U) did not match this year. One scrambled into FP, the other 2 will be doing Prelims.

-A friend from St. George did not match in 2004. So he did a prelim. year at a community hospital. He did a great job as an intern (the PD liked him) and was accepted into a PGY-1 categorical spot at the same community hospital this year!!! However, he has to repeat the PGY-1 year again. 😡
 
HEME-ONC said:
Wow,
I'm sorry to hear that! I usually hear great things about student matching in general surgery from SGU. What could they have done to help you out?

Thanks

The dean didn't help make any calls, the office wouldn't fax over papers, there was no info on the whole scramble process and where to call. It was basically you all alone in finding a spot. They offered no guidance as to what would be the next best thing to do.
 
Do you really think it's fair that you blast a school that helps hundreds of students every year find residencies just because you didn't get what you want? I am a recent St. George grad and I am proud to be an SGU grad. They gave me an opportunity no one else was willing to give. You should praise the school you graduated from.
 
HEME-ONC said:
Wow,
I'm sorry to hear that! I usually hear great things about student matching in general surgery from SGU. What could they have done to help you out?

Thanks
not a heck of a lot is the point. getting a residency is afunction of your boards, the timliness that you get ERAS in, your clinical grades, your letters of rec and things like research activitiies. The school doesnt have any active role in getting you a residency. The only role it plays is that a PD would rather have the guy from yale than the guy from offshore U perhaps.
 
stephew said:
not a heck of a lot is the point. getting a residency is afunction of your boards, the timliness that you get ERAS in, your clinical grades, your letters of rec and things like research activitiies. The school doesnt have any active role in getting you a residency. The only role it plays is that a PD would rather have the guy from yale than the guy from offshore U perhaps.

this is patently false as far as the scramble is concerned. at my medical school, students who did not match and had to scramble were given enormous support. there was a "scramble center" that was set up in a big room in the library with dedicated phones, computers, faxes, the works. a couple of the deans clear their schedules for the couple of days of scramble and do nothing but help students get residency slots. one of my friends didn't match for med-peds and with this help was able to secure a couple of offers for med-peds during the scramble. she would probably would have gone unmatched for med-peds otherwise since it is a somewhat competitive field...

i do agree with your assessment though vis a vis the regular match. although one could argue that a school does help its students get residencies by virtue of being a respected, well-known med school, giving students an excellent education, and having a strong reputation for producing good trainees. american medical schools "help" their students this way considerably more than a foreign medical school does theirs.
 
Celiac Plexus said:
this is patently false as far as the scramble is concerned. at my medical school, students who did not match and had to scramble were given enormous support. there was a "scramble center" that was set up in a big room in the library with dedicated phones, computers, faxes, the works. a couple of the deans clear their schedules for the couple of days of scramble and do nothing but help students get residency slots. one of my friends didn't match for med-peds and with this help was able to secure a couple of offers for med-peds during the scramble. she would probably would have gone unmatched for med-peds otherwise since it is a somewhat competitive field...

i do agree with your assessment though vis a vis the regular match. although one could argue that a school does help its students get residencies by virtue of being a respected, well-known med school, giving students an excellent education, and having a strong reputation for producing good trainees. american medical schools "help" their students this way considerably more than a foreign medical school does theirs.

True. In addition, the chairs and PDs at US school can call programs on behalf of thier students to help them match and put in a good word for them. US students also recieve career guidance and advice through out their 4 years which help them get better prepared for the match.
 
--anon-- said:
Do you really think it's fair that you blast a school that helps hundreds of students every year find residencies just because you didn't get what you want? I am a recent St. George grad and I am proud to be an SGU grad. They gave me an opportunity no one else was willing to give. You should praise the school you graduated from.

Congrats...good for you.

I'm not praising any school that conducts business the way SGU does. As stated in the above posts, US schools help their students and give them tons of support and guidance. My dean wouldn't even fax a letter for me.

SGU does NOTHING to help find residencies. They don't offer advice, statistics, and the dean will hardly say two words to you during the application process. They basically say "Ok now you're back in the US, go find other students who went through what you are going through and bug them".
 
Leukocyte said:
The last 2 years have been rough for IMGs. GS is becoming very competetive since the "80h rule".

GS and "80h rule" - care to divulge? I also never quite understood the difference btwn IMG and FMG, are they one in the same or represent a distinction btwn US and non-US citizens attending medical school outside of the US?

Thanks
 
kstone13 said:
GS and "80h rule" - care to divulge? I also never quite understood the difference btwn IMG and FMG, are they one in the same or represent a distinction btwn US and non-US citizens attending medical school outside of the US?

Thanks

The "80 hour rule" is a rule passed recently by the ACGME that mandates limiting residents' working hours to 80 hours/week. For some reason, after that rule took effect in 2003/2004, interest in GS went up.

As for IMG vs FMG, well, many refer to Immigrant medical graduates as "FMGs", and refer to US citizens attending off-shore schools as "IMGs". Are they in the same group? I really do not know, but I would assume that IMGs have an advantage over FMGs since they do their clinicals in the US and do not have any Visa issues.

Good Luck.
 
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