Stanford's Scholarly Concentrations

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This seems pretty cool but I'll I've heard of it is what's on their website. What exactly are the "concentrations" that you can "concentrate" on? Maybe someone who knows something about the program can enlighten me. Also, the standford curriculum is pretty non-traditional. What are it's pros and cons and are there any other schools that are as non-traditional as stanford? What's the best way to research curricula of different schools other than their websites?

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no one who has read your post within the last 8 or 9 hours anyways... 🙄
 
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i don't know anything about standford's scholarly concentrations besides what is on their website but i can tell you that Duke also has a very non-traditional curriculum. all the basic sciences are crammed into the first year. Yale is non-traditional in that they have optional anonymous exams or something like that.
 
As far as I know, Stanford's curriculum is pretty traditional and lecture based (although I think that most lectures are available to be viewed on the web). They teach by an organ system. I sat in on a lecture once last year just to see what it was like when I was visiting a friend at Stanford.

As for the scholarly concentration, from speaking to the dean of admissions at a grad school fair at my school, it seemed like they were trying to cut the hours that students had to spend in the lecture hall and have at least one day off (or a couple partial days I forgot which one, or if it was both) on Wednesdays for you to pursue your scholarly concentration. Additionally, I think a lot of students take an extra year to do research/get a masters/do other clinical work of interest. I think that the scholarly concentration basically boils down to making a thesis required for graduation, but that's just my opinion.

I am not sure if you've already seen this, but if you wanted to see exactly what you can concentrate on, they list them on the website (http://med.stanford.edu/md/curriculum/scholarly_concentrations/). If you click the links in the right box marked "concentrations" they give you specific requirements for the various areas of study.

I hope this helps answer your question.
 
The Scholarly Concentrations is basically a "project" that all med students who matriculated since last year are required to do. I guess you can sort of equate it to a "minor" from undergrad. There are about 6-7 areas of "concentrations." I remember Women's Health, Immunology, Molecular Biology of Disease, Bioengineering, Independet Design (basically, design your own Concentration), and a few others that I don't remember because I wasn't interested in them. When I went to my Stanford interview, they were basically saying that it might take students about 5 years to finish, but it isn't directly correlated to their introduction of the "Schol. COncentrations." It's more because Stanford Med encourages their students to take their time, and to do as much exploring of their interests as they can during the medical school years.

If you are doing a dual degree at Stanford, MD/MBA, MD/MPH, MD/PHD, your dual degree is more than enough to fulfill the scholarly concentrations. Again, depending on which concentration you eventually chose, you can be taking extra classes (Women's Health), attending a series of seminars, doing bench or clinical research, etc.

The other thing is that if you decide that you don't like the concentration you are doing, you can change it. I think most med students decide on a concentration by the end of their first year and start working on it that summer and through second year. Alternatively, others wait until they are done with all four years of med school, stay as a fifth year as a teaching assistant or research assistant at Stanford (and get PAID very very well, as compared to other TAs at other institutions), and work on their concentrations at the same time.

This is really really basic, but I know that before my interview, I was able to find very specific details about the concentrations on their website. They have a section about curriculum, and you click on each concentration and they give you guidelines for each one.

Good luck.
(I loved Stanford, btw.)
 
PuKcAo said:
This seems pretty cool but I'll I've heard of it is what's on their website. What exactly are the "concentrations" that you can "concentrate" on? Maybe someone who knows something about the program can enlighten me. Also, the standford curriculum is pretty non-traditional. What are it's pros and cons and are there any other schools that are as non-traditional as stanford? What's the best way to research curricula of different schools other than their websites?

Have you looked at http://med.stanford.edu/md/curriculum/scholarly_concentrations/ ?

The concentrations include bioengineering, biomedical informatics, clinical research, women's health, immunology, molecular basis of medicine, and several others. There is one for pretty much everything medically you could think of.

The first two quarters at Stanford are somewhat traditional with anatomy and neuroanatomy plus the assorted molecular biology, genetics, biochem (online, many students exempt out of even this) type courses. You do, however, get Wednesdays free to do your scholarly concentration or other activities.

Starting in spring of the first-year, it moves to an organ-based curriculum. You continue to get Wednesdays off, but you also get two afternoons a week off on top of that. Basically, you have lecture or lab in human health and disease from 9-12 on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, plus two afternoon sessions per week of practice of medicine, which is mostly small-group format stuff with problem-based-learning cases on different patient presentations, ethics, history and physical exam skills, cultural competency, behavioral science, and the like.

It's pretty flexible, and makes the first two years quite a bit more flexible than places that have a lot of lecture.
 
CarleneM said:
i don't know anything about standford's scholarly concentrations besides what is on their website but i can tell you that Duke also has a very non-traditional curriculum. all the basic sciences are crammed into the first year. Yale is non-traditional in that they have optional anonymous exams or something like that.


How on earth is it possible to cram two years of science into one year; its not possible something must be different or it wouldn't work. People drown as is.
 
PuKcAo said:
How on earth is it possible to cram two years of science into one year; its not possible something must be different or it wouldn't work. People drown as is.

they do have a longer first year and from what i gathered on my interview, it was a ton of work. they are in class all day and don't have much time their first year for other interests. that's what third year is for- to pursue another degree, research project, etc. i don't know if they learn as much basic science stuff as at other schools but they certainly learn enough for the boards. they have been doing this for a number of years and it works.
 
PuKcAo said:
How on earth is it possible to cram two years of science into one year; its not possible something must be different or it wouldn't work. People drown as is.

A prerequisite for admission to Duke is the Adcom's belief that an applicant can handle the workload, which may be why the MCAT avg. at Duke is higher than at most other medical schools. Certainly many qualified applicants will not be accepted, but all accepted applicants should be able to handle the coursework, stressful as it may be.
 
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