starting a business on the side?

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seems like a lot of rph's are pretty knowledgeable and motivated...anyone got a business on the side?

I'm looking to start a business on the side for a few reasons:

1.) make money in the long term
2.) get tax write-offs (my attorney friend makes over $140k/year and has an 8% federal effective tax rate from write-offs!)
3.) get into businesses early, so if I find a good business opportunity later in life, I can use this business as collateral/down payment
4.) get into a living situation where someone else is paying my mortgage

so far, the only thing I can find that fits most of this criteria is a mixed-used property...it has a 3br/2ba in the front house, 1br/1ba rear house, and a breakfast shop attached to it.

The breakfast shop is 1-year into a 5-year lease at $1,350/month, the rear 1br/1ba unit rents at $950/month, and the front unit is ~$1,500/month

the owner is looking for ~$450k for it

I asked bank of america for a loan, and they pretty much told me they wouldn't touch it...it's nothing they even go near since it's a multi-use property. I just asked around and was told that I'd need to get a commercial loan, and even then I'd need to already have an established business in that field (ie. already have my own breakfast shop), 20-35% down payment, and a lot of collateral (house, cars, etc.)

apparently this is a bad enough economy, that lenders just aren't giving loans...it's too much risk for them. If I already had the business it would demonstrate experience (= lower risk), I could take a lien against the business...but I don't have one.

so it doesn't make sense to me...on an RPh income ('excellent' credit rating), I could buy the whole property, just continue with the business lease leave both houses vacant and still be able to cover the business loan payments....to me that's less risk than trying to pay the loan with a breakfast shop earnings 😕 And if I do rent out the rear unit and use the income from the business, I only have to pay ~$600/month to cover the balance on the loan...dead simple when you're taking home over $5,500/month. It also has a 5-car garage in the rear I could rent for a $100/month or something.


so I told my Dad who has a small business, and he told me I'm just stupid..."where there's a will, there's a way". He has 3 paid off houses and a business...and he started out as an engineer and $10k in cash...so I need to figure out how to get financed on my own.

anyone out there got a business on the side?

how did you get financed for it besides paying cash?

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seems like a lot of rph's are pretty knowledgeable and motivated...anyone got a business on the side?

I'm looking to start a business on the side for a few reasons:

1.) make money in the long term
2.) get tax write-offs (my attorney friend makes over $140k/year and has an 8% federal effective tax rate from write-offs!)
3.) get into businesses early, so if I find a good business opportunity later in life, I can use this business as collateral/down payment
4.) get into a living situation where someone else is paying my mortgage

so far, the only thing I can find that fits most of this criteria is a mixed-used property...it has a 3br/2ba in the front house, 1br/1ba rear house, and a breakfast shop attached to it.

The breakfast shop is 1-year into a 5-year lease at $1,350/month, the rear 1br/1ba unit rents at $950/month, and the front unit is ~$1,500/month

the owner is looking for ~$450k for it

I asked bank of america for a loan, and they pretty much told me they wouldn't touch it...it's nothing they even go near since it's a multi-use property. I just asked around and was told that I'd need to get a commercial loan, and even then I'd need to already have an established business in that field (ie. already have my own breakfast shop), 20-35% down payment, and a lot of collateral (house, cars, etc.)

apparently this is a bad enough economy, that lenders just aren't giving loans...it's too much risk for them. If I already had the business it would demonstrate experience (= lower risk), I could take a lien against the business...but I don't have one.

so it doesn't make sense to me...on an RPh income ('excellent' credit rating), I could buy the whole property, just continue with the business lease leave both houses vacant and still be able to cover the business loan payments....to me that's less risk than trying to pay the loan with a breakfast shop earnings 😕 And if I do rent out the rear unit and use the income from the business, I only have to pay ~$600/month to cover the balance on the loan...dead simple when you're taking home over $5,500/month. It also has a 5-car garage in the rear I could rent for a $100/month or something.


so I told my Dad who has a small business, and he told me I'm just stupid..."where there's a will, there's a way". He has 3 paid off houses and a business...and he started out as an engineer and $10k in cash...so I need to figure out how to get financed on my own.

anyone out there got a business on the side?

how did you get financed for it besides paying cash?

Find a business that you sell a service! if you can find that, your overhead is zero other than yourself and build from there. Good luck
 
Find a business that you sell a service! if you can find that, your overhead is zero other than yourself and build from there. Good luck

That's what I did. I started an MTM business and got a contract halfway through residency. I am currently earning the equivalent of a full time retail RPH with MUCH less stress, and I still have time to do my part time staff pharmacist job, work for a website as a manager and teach a graduate level class. Pretty nice...
 
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That's what I did. I started an MTM business and got a contract halfway through residency. I am currently earning the equivalent of a full time retail RPH with MUCH less stress, and I still have time to do my part time staff pharmacist job, work for a website as a manager and teach a graduate level class. Pretty nice...

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I just hope it continues... I am a subcontractor so dependent on the stability of the big contractor. But even if it doesn't last forever (does anything?), it's still been great for me and will prepare me for future endeavors.
 
I just hope it continues... I am a subcontractor so dependent on the stability of the big contractor. But even if it doesn't last forever (does anything?), it's still been great for me and will prepare me for future endeavors.

If it doesnt last, move on to the next idea. Nothing lasts forever, especially in business. 👍👍👍
 
I've known a few pharmacists who had rental properties (NO desire to do that myself) and I used to work with two pharmacists who opened a self-service car wash shortly before I started working there. A little Googling revealed that one of them still owns this enterprise 15-plus years later; he's also not actively practicing pharmacy, although he's still licensed. He had grown up in that business, so he knew what he was getting into.
 
What about opening a pharmacy tech school ? It is ridiculous the amount of tuition for profit school charge for just a certification. Where i live there is a for profit school that charges 14 grants.
 
What about opening a pharmacy tech school ? It is ridiculous the amount of tuition for profit school charge for just a certification. Where i live there is a for profit school that charges 14 grants.

Better yet: Open another pharmacy school. bam! you will be rich!!!
 
That's what I did. I started an MTM business and got a contract halfway through residency. I am currently earning the equivalent of a full time retail RPH with MUCH less stress, and I still have time to do my part time staff pharmacist job, work for a website as a manager and teach a graduate level class. Pretty nice...

I wanna learn more about this MTM business?! like how could i potentially use my pharmacy degree to set up a side business that doesn't involve an independent pharmacy in the age of CVS, Walgreens, Riteaid.
 
That's what I did. I started an MTM business and got a contract halfway through residency. I am currently earning the equivalent of a full time retail RPH with MUCH less stress, and I still have time to do my part time staff pharmacist job, work for a website as a manager and teach a graduate level class. Pretty nice...

Do you sleep? 😀
 
Better yet: Open another pharmacy school. bam! you will be rich!!!

I'd totally put up some money for the SDN College of Pharmacy. Unlike other overpriced for-profit schools, we're actually run by pharmacists! Hell, we could probably charge extra for that.
 
I was a Realtor for a bunch of years and really enjoyed it and learned a lot about building a customer base, building a business and helping people. I moved away from my client base so I left the practice, but now is actually a great time to be a Realtor as so many are leaving the practice and people need really smart people to solve their issues with foreclosures, etc. Very low entry point, no upfront costs, the broker just takes a cut of your profits.

I'd start doing something you like to do and would do for free, then start worrying about building a business around it. You'll find an unmet need as you volunteer.

I think the biggest mistake is going in big with money. Better to start with no money and make money. Takes money to make money is not exactly true, watch "The Social Network" , can be someone else's money.
 
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