State Schools

[Faze2]

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this might be a dumb question. (and yes, their are dumb questions)

Does every state have only one state medical school? I've tried to look this up but I can;t seem to find it on google.

For instance, I live in Pa. Is Penn State the only state school? Or is Pitt, Temple, Jefferson, Drexel (probably not Drexel) a state med school as well? The reason I ask is because all of these insitutions are public for undergrad, except Drexel. Jefferson doesn't have an undergrad college.

Are any DO schools state schools, or are they all private? (Mostly for Pa. i.e PCOM, LECOM)

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Not all states have a publically supported medical school. Some states have more than one publically supported medical school. A few DO schools are publically supported, but most are private. Most of the time the school's website will tell you what you need to know. The MSAR is also good for this kind of info on MD schools.

US MD schools: http://services.aamc.org/memberlist...home.search&search_type=MS&state_criteria=ALL

US DO schools: http://www.aacom.org/colleges/

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Nope, TX, for example, has 6.

 

[DeLaughterDO]

Nope, TX, for example, has 6.

Woot!

And the cheapest tuition in the WORLD!! 👍 (ok, I might be exaggerating slightly here)

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Woot!

And the cheapest tuition in the WORLD!! 👍 (ok, I might be exaggerating slightly here)

Actually I made a mistake -- TX has 7 public medical schools (Sorry, I forgot TCOM, but not because of any MD vs DO conspiracy -- I just forgot 🙂 ) AND some of the cheapest tuition in the country!

 

[Trismegistus4]

this might be a dumb question. (and yes, their are dumb questions)

Does every state have only one state medical school? I've tried to look this up but I can;t seem to find it on google.

For instance, I live in Pa. Is Penn State the only state school? Or is Pitt, Temple, Jefferson, Drexel (probably not Drexel) a state med school as well? The reason I ask is because all of these insitutions are public for undergrad, except Drexel. Jefferson doesn't have an undergrad college.

Are any DO schools state schools, or are they all private? (Mostly for Pa. i.e PCOM, LECOM)

Pennsylvania is just about the worst state in terms of state medical schools. We don't have any true "state" schools in the sense of, say, Texas, Massachusetts, or Mississippi. We merely have schools that receive some state funds, and thus offer a discount of a few thousand bucks to state residents: Penn State, Temple, and Pitt. Drexel and Jefferson are entirely private, as are PCOM and LECOM.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Pennsylvania is just about the worst state in terms of state medical schools. We don't have any true "state" schools in the sense of, say, Texas, Massachusetts, or Mississippi. We merely have schools that receive some state funds, and thus offer a discount of a few thousand bucks to state residents: Penn State, Temple, and Pitt. Drexel and Jefferson are entirely private, as are PCOM and LECOM.

Yeah, I was going to note that. Also, they don't give much preference to PA residents, either, do they? I think they give some but not a lot and take many oos students.

In Oregon, OHSU is a public corporation so it's a quasi-state school. It gives some admissions preference to instate students (basically, you're more likely to get an interview but that's it) and instate students pay $30k/year for tuition instead of the $40k/year that oos students pay. I'm curious about what other states have schools like that.

Oklahoma has the very traditional state school model in that 85% of the class at the state schools have to be instate, and oos students pay twice as much in tuition as instate students. We have two state schools, one osteopathic and one allopathic. Since we're a small state (about 3 million people), Oklahoma applicants are pretty lucky.

 

[njbmd]

Also remember that some state schools will give "in-state" tuition to students of neighboring states that do not have a state medical school. Look for these. I believe Maryland will give "in-state" status to District of Columbia students since DC is not a state and has three private schools. Check this out as there are others too.

 

[menaniac]

Jersey has 3 state schools. 2 Allopathic, 1 osteo. The Allo schools are VERY liberal who they consider "in-state" (like, as long as you move here before school starts and get a driver's license you're a resident). Tuition is somewhat cheaper than private schools (about $24K). Its a nice option for someone who's from PA...

 

[Lshapley]

Jersey has 3 state schools. 2 Allopathic, 1 osteo. The Allo schools are VERY liberal who they consider "in-state" (like, as long as you move here before school starts and get a driver's license you're a resident). Tuition is somewhat cheaper than private schools (about $24K). Its a nice option for someone who's from PA...

Agreed. I am a PA resident applying this cycle and all of the Jersey schools are on my radar. They run about 11 grand cheaper than the PA schools!

 

[tiredmom]

My understanding is that Texas Tech and A&M are also state schools - they are not private anyways. The only private med school in TX is Baylor. So - TX has 9 state and 1 private. Everything is bigger in TX!

 

[QofQuimica]

this might be a dumb question. (and yes, their are dumb questions)

Does every state have only one state medical school? I've tried to look this up but I can;t seem to find it on google.

For instance, I live in Pa. Is Penn State the only state school? Or is Pitt, Temple, Jefferson, Drexel (probably not Drexel) a state med school as well? The reason I ask is because all of these insitutions are public for undergrad, except Drexel. Jefferson doesn't have an undergrad college.

Are any DO schools state schools, or are they all private? (Mostly for Pa. i.e PCOM, LECOM)

No, the larger states have multiple state schools. Florida currently has three state allopathic schools (UF, USF and FSU), one private allopathic school with two programs (U Miami in Miami and U Miami at FAU), and two private DO schools (Nova-Southeastern and LECOM-Bradenton). Other people have already mentioned the plethora of TX schools, and CA also has a bunch of state schools. There are other states with multiple state schools as well.

 

[Anastasis]

My understanding is that Texas Tech and A&M are also state schools - they are not private anyways. The only private med school in TX is Baylor. So - TX has 9 state and 1 private. Everything is bigger in TX!

Nine? 😕

UTMB
San Antonio,
Houston
Southwestern
A&M
Tech
TCOM

Am I missing some or are you counting the S. Texas campus of SA and the El Paso campus of Tech? I don't think you should count those because they aren't independent schools.

 

[CremasterFlash]

Yes, there are dumb questions. That's not one of them though.

What does strike me is the frequency with which people here use "their" to mean "there" and "your" to mean "you're".

Assuming English is your first language, you should have covered that in elementary school.

And...

It's = it is
Its = possessive
Their = possessive
They're = they are
There = well... there

might want to get that down before you write your PS.

 

[soonereng]

this might be a dumb question. (and yes, their are dumb questions)

Yes, there are dumb questions...Assuming English is your first language, you should have covered that in elementary school.

Eye wuz alwayz told that their wer know dum qwestyuns just dum peepel.

Don't bee sew hard on peepel hoo kant spell or don't no grammer. 😴 😴

 

[ShyRem]

There are states like Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana with not a single medical school, nonetheless any state medical schools. Other states such as Colorado allow residents from those states to apply to Colorado's medical school as if they were in-state residents. So if you're applying to Colorado med school as an in-state student, you have to also compete against other "in-state" students from five (yes 5) other states.

 

[Orthodoc40]

Massachusetts has 1 state school, take 100 people a year, and they must be Mass residents (filed taxes in MA for the last 5 years, or graduated from a Massachusetts high school). Not exactly like living in FL, MI, CA or TX!! 🙁

To add to the NJ poster above, their DO school is very liberal in who is a state resident, too. That is, every accepted student can claim in state status.

 

[Critical Mass]

My understanding is that Texas Tech and A&M are also state schools - they are not private anyways. The only private med school in TX is Baylor. So - TX has 9 state and 1 private. Everything is bigger in TX!

Baylor really isn't as private as they advertise. They take most of their matriculants from in-state, get state subsidies (I assume), and have different rates for oos students. I would have gladly accepted a spot at Baylor, but as an oos applicant, my numbers were just not good enough. It's not really a knock against the school which I have stated before is probably the best place in the country, but it is a tad misleading to refer to them as private. You can't beat the pricetag there.

Regarding the surrounding states thing, it's much worse for the veterinary folks. For allo, Washington and Colorado stick out as spots where surrounding states drive the competative nature of the application process.

Ask mushy for a list of DO schools that are state-funded. DB pointed out Oklahoma State, but mush once told me about a few others.

CremasterFlash--hilarious name!

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Ask mushy for a list of DO schools that are state-funded. DB pointed out Oklahoma State, but mush once told me about a few others.

I'd never say I know more than mushy, but I can answer that question --

UMDNJ-SOM (Jersey)
OSU (Oklahoma)
TCOM (Texas)
OUCOM (Ohio)
MSUCOM (Michigan)

As mentioned above UMDNJ-SOM gives instate tuition to pretty much all their students -- all you need to do is register your car there, get a NJ drivers' license, and sign a lease for 12 months or buy property in NJ. They give no preferential treatment to instate applicants, though, which sorta sucks for the Jersey people.

OUCOM makes oos students sign a contract stating that they'll practice in Ohio for 5 years. I believe some of your residency can count toward those 5 years. As a plus, I think their oos tuition is pretty low.

 

[Trismegistus4]

To add to the NJ poster above, their DO school is very liberal in who is a state resident, too. That is, every accepted student can claim in state status.

Don't forget, though, the "liberality" of the NJ schools is in allowing accepted students to establish state residency, not in considering who will be accepted. It will get you the lower tuition, but not the other big benefit of a state school: increased chance of interview and/or admission.

 

[aspirationMD]

I'm just upset that my state, OR, has only one med school and it is a state school. I had hoped that i wouldn't have to leave the state, but I'm not going to apply 4-5 times to get into the one here (some people do).

 

[QofQuimica]

There are states like Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana with not a single medical school, nonetheless any state medical schools. Other states such as Colorado allow residents from those states to apply to Colorado's medical school as if they were in-state residents. So if you're applying to Colorado med school as an in-state student, you have to also compete against other "in-state" students from five (yes 5) other states.

Yeah, but all six of those states put together have about what, the population of a single Florida county??? 😛

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I'm just upset that my state, OR, has only one med school and it is a state school. I had hoped that i wouldn't have to leave the state, but I'm not going to apply 4-5 times to get into the one here (some people do).

Oregon's depressing that way. I had friends who were constantly applying and getting rejected from nursing school in Portland, when it's supposedly pretty easy to get into nursing school in most other parts of the country. Supposedly there's a teacher shortage, and it's not too hard to find a job as a teacher in most cities. In Portland, it's freaking impossible.

 

[tiredmom]

Nine? 😕

UTMB
San Antonio,
Houston
Southwestern
A&M
Tech
TCOM

Am I missing some or are you counting the S. Texas campus of SA and the El Paso campus of Tech? I don't think you should count those because they aren't independent schools.

You're right - I got confused - when I see them written out, it makes more sense. Rumor mill here has it that they will be establishing a med school in Austin and filling out the early two years in El Paso to make them full schools. Supposedly the land's already bought in Austin.

 

[mshheaddoc]

I'd never say I know more than mushy, but I can answer that question --

UMDNJ-SOM (Jersey)
OSU (Oklahoma)
TCOM (Texas)
OUCOM (Ohio)
MSUCOM (Michigan)

As mentioned above UMDNJ-SOM gives instate tuition to pretty much all their students -- all you need to do is register your car there, get a NJ drivers' license, and sign a lease for 12 months or buy property in NJ. They give no preferential treatment to instate applicants, though, which sorta sucks for the Jersey people.

OUCOM makes oos students sign a contract stating that they'll practice in Ohio for 5 years. I believe some of your residency can count toward those 5 years. As a plus, I think their oos tuition is pretty low.

Also you can add WVSOM to that list although most label as private it does have public influence with tuition and other features as it is part of West Virginia Higher Education Policy Commission.

Also if you are moving to Ohio due to your spouses new job transfer you are automatically considered a resident from day one per the admission office.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Also you can add WVSOM to that list although most label as private it does have public influence with tuition and other features as it is part of West Virginia Higher Education Policy Commission.

Also if you are moving to Ohio due to your spouses new job transfer you are automatically considered a resident from day one per the admission office.

Duh, I totally forgot WVSOM. Crazily enough, West Virginia has 3 public medical school -- WVU, Marshall and WVSOM. I don't even think they have a million people.

 

[Faze2]

Jersey has 3 state schools. 2 Allopathic, 1 osteo. The Allo schools are VERY liberal who they consider "in-state" (like, as long as you move here before school starts and get a driver's license you're a resident). Tuition is somewhat cheaper than private schools (about $24K). Its a nice option for someone who's from PA...

That's pretty sweet. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Berg]

Duh, I totally forgot WVSOM. Crazily enough, West Virginia has 3 public medical school -- WVU, Marshall and WVSOM. I don't even think they have a million people.

WV has a population of 1.8 million. Still not much for having 3 public medical schools (public-ish in the case of WVSOM).

 

[Critical Mass]

Oregon's depressing that way. I had friends who were constantly applying and getting rejected from nursing school in Portland, when it's supposedly pretty easy to get into nursing school in most other parts of the country. Supposedly there's a teacher shortage, and it's not too hard to find a job as a teacher in most cities. In Portland, it's freaking impossible.

Must be because there are no self-service gas stations there. 👍

I guess I know where mushy is headed. 😉 {mush}

 

[Doctor Bagel]

WV has a population of 1.8 million. Still not much for having 3 public medical schools (public-ish in the case of WVSOM).

Sorry. I probably should have looked that one up. 😳