Step 3 for Path people

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I will be starting my Path residency this July and am slightly terrified by the notion of taking step 3 after a year of lab medicine. When have other people taken step 3, and what did you use to study?
 
How much preparation is needed if you have scored highly in your previous steps? How true is the "two months, two weeks, two pencils" Step prep adage?

Also, is there any benefit to getting a high score on Step 3, or conversely, any drawback to getting a low score for fellowship competitiveness (or any other thing)?
 
two months, two weeks, two days....is for Step 1, Step 2CK, Step 2CS


2 DAYS is not for Step 3
 
I'm sure you'll find someone who says step III scores matter for dermpath. I don't know. I doubt they are highly important.

I wouldn't stress about it. Get a book or two of practice questions and do them. And practice the case scenarios on the CD they send you when you register.
 
I took Step 3 this past August, early in my 1st year. My 4th year was full of easy electives, so I had probably not done a rigorous clinical rotation in almost a year. I was on a light CP rotation and basically did 1 block of USMLE World questions a night for about 3 weeks leading up to the test. I practiced the cases on the CD and skimmed some of the example cases in 1st Aid. The weekend before the test I did some back-to-back blocks for timing. I took it and did average. That was well enough for me. I would not sweat this one too much.
 
I will be starting my Path residency this July and am slightly terrified by the notion of taking step 3 after a year of lab medicine. When have other people taken step 3, and what did you use to study?
Took Step 3 at the end of my PGY2 year. Studied one week and mainly used the Swanson Family Medicine question book (http://www.amazon.com/Swansons-Family-Practice-Review-Problem-Oriented/dp/032300914X).

Also used Blueprints for CCS which is good bathroom reading. It stresses stupid things (but probably important for the test) such as every patient should be counseled to stop drinking, smoking, and to use seat belts even if they don't smoke or drink, and they use seat belts. Supposedly easy points.

Finally, play around with the CCS software on the CD. You don't have to memorize input orders for every single test. For instance, let's say you do a lumbar puncture...protocol says that you should send some for gram stain, cell count, blah blah. But if you type in "CSF" or something non-committal in the order, all the relevant orders come up and you can click on multiple orders simultaneously to order all those stupid tests.

The test is not bad for two reasons:
(1) Test is likely graded on some kind of curve and the far majority of the folks who take the exam don't care (it's not like people study 1-2 months for this like they did for Step 1).
(2) Step 3 tests on common diseases more than the esoteric stuff. Most of my questions were on garden-variety diseases such as diabetes, chest pain, and hypertension. The only esoteric question I remember was on some weird case of mixed connective tissue disease. I glanced for literally 2 seconds on this question, guessed D, farted, and moved onto the next question. Especially the CCS tests on bread and butter stuff--I can still even remember some of my cases: panic attack, AAA, diverticulitis, intussusception, DKA, PID (gram stain shows gonococcus--but you treat for chlamydia too), and child abuse (parenting FAIL).
 
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I'm sure you'll find someone who says step III scores matter for dermpath. I don't know. I doubt they are highly important.
Really, a pathology fellowship would actually look at Step 3? That's a FAIL.
 
There a couple of dermpath fellowship programs that ask for your USMLE scores..but I highly doubt that it matters in the grand scheme of things compared to your references, your residency program, CV, etc.
Just pass Step 3. I passed by like 2 points, and I still got a dermpath fellowship 🙂
another good site: www.usmleworld.com
Very high yield!
 
Now that we have graduated from med school with a month free before residency... do you think that studying questions an hour or two a day (with maybe a few days more rigorous closer the the test) and taking before our July 1st date would be a good idea??

Will there be time to study for Step 3 during the first year of path residency? Thought it might be a good idea to just go ahead and get this stuff out of the way now and not have to worry about it later during hard rotations... plus may serve as a nice overview on the basics of disease before residency.

(I know some of you may say enjoy your month off, and believe me, I will!! But I think I could do one or two blocks of questions per day and still enjoy my time.)
 
First year is the best time to take it - generally as you go through residency you get more to do. You might get more electives, but you still have more to do. Step III is a 2 day test, I would schedule it during a light rotation (CP?). Studying before residency starts is a good idea, although if you aren't taking it for a long time, obviously the utility of that goes down.
 
I would wait until you start residency to register for Step 3...the cost of the test can usually be covered by your book fund.

Also, take it during your first year during the "easier" rotations, such as cytology (which doesn't have late previewing/grossing responsibilities) or chem/micro for example. You'll be getting your schedules soon after you arrive, and then you can ask your senior residents which during which rotations this would be feasible.
 
I took step 3 before I started res. You just need to register for the test in a state that doesn't require an internship. You can actually sit for the test anywhere so it doesn't matter where you register.
 
I took step 3 before I started res. You just need to register for the test in a state that doesn't require an internship. You can actually sit for the test anywhere so it doesn't matter where you register.

that's the advice i give all med students that i interview. just take the stupid thing. you're only going to get dumber the further you get away from your clinical rotations. that being said, it took it Feb of my first year and it was still fine. just take and pass the darn thing.

not all book funds can be used to cover step 3, so i'd ask before i assumed that!
 
I really wish I had listened to everyone who said take it as soon as possible. I'm about to start my second year and I already feel like I've forgotten everything from medical school. Plus, I have absolutely no motivation to study for it.
 
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