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the ones i am talking about are from other pain docs.Are these ones that you did, or that someone else did? I have seen patients from a lot of unscrupulous docs (including my own grandfather, sadly) who were implanted after failed trials, with the promise that it would get better once the perm was in.
ive only done about 5-6 trials this past year. most of the "good cases" are seen by others in the area. which is okay.
off the top of my head, about 1 in 5 of the trials that ive done that went to implant have turned them off, and fewer have had them removed. a couple for legitimate reasons.