Stop making gas salaries so visible online?

[AngryBird69]

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Anyone else think it's a bad practice for recruiters to post gas salaries online in job postings which are easily accessible for the public to see? It's clear that the public is not happy with how much money doctors make; you only need to look at the comments on any healthcare reform related article or video online and someone is attacking physician salaries no more than 10 entries in. Additionally, considering that anesthesiology is a field perceived as being overpaid by even our own colleagues in other specialties, how many would agree that gas salaries should stop being posted online? AFAIK, gas is the only one that does this. You'll be hard pressed to see cardiology salaries posted publically, for example.

I think it's a bad practice and just an easy way to become a target in this healthcare reform mess. Look at how Rad-onc's 15% scheduled cut was determined by CMS:

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=roc&pag=dis&ItemID=100271&wf=5032

 

[jwk]

Anyone else think it's a bad practice for recruiters to post gas salaries online and easily accessible for the public to see? It's clear that the public is not happy with how much money doctors make; you only need to look at the comments on any healthcare reform related article or video online and someone is attacking physician salaries no more than 10 entries in. Additionally, considering that anesthesiology is a field perceived as being overpaid by even our own colleagues in other specialties, how many would agree that gas salaries should stop being posted online? AFAIK, gas is the only one that does this. You NEVER see cardiology salaries posted publically, for example.

I think it's a bad practice and just an easy way to become a target in this healthcare reform mess. Look at how Rad-onc's 15% scheduled cut was determined by CMS:

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=roc&pag=dis&ItemID=100271&wf=5032

Do you really give a damn what a vascular surgeon or a dermatologist or a cardiologist think about compensation in anesthesiology?

I doubt seriously that this is the only specialty where salaries are easily available online. Let me guess - you're looking at GasWork, right?

 

[AngryBird69]

Do you really give a damn what a vascular surgeon or a dermatologist or a cardiologist think about compensation in anesthesiology?

I doubt seriously that this is the only specialty where salaries are easily available online. Let me guess - you're looking at GasWork, right?

JWK, no that wasn't my point. I couldn't care any less what a MOHS surgeon thinks of my salary. I'm just saying, I think we're putting the knife closer to our throats by making salaries so visible when the govt aka the people think physicians are being paid too much. The article points out that these DC thinktanks clearly use "unscientific"methods (aka industry pamphlets, forums, word of mouth, gaswork) for cutting wages.

And no gaswork is not the only place I have seen gas salaries posted. And to reiterate I have never seen a cardiologist or nephrology salary. I'm sure there are some posted here and there but not to the extent I've seen with anesthesiology.

 

[gasblaster]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquel...e-best-and-worst-paying-jobs-for-doctors-2/2/

Here you go.

 

[vector2]

Gaswork is the least of your concerns considering how much information any schmuck can get by googling, say, how much do cardiologists make. Not to mention, purposefully obfuscating salaries of providers who are currently deriving a fair amount of income from government reimbursement doesn't exactly sound like the best idea on paper w/r/t what the bean counters might and might not want to do.

 

[AngryBird69]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquel...e-best-and-worst-paying-jobs-for-doctors-2/2/

Here you go.

Gaswork is the least of your concerns considering how much information any schmuck can get by googling, say, how much do cardiologists make. Not to mention, purposefully obfuscating salaries of providers who are currently deriving a fair amount of income from government reimbursement doesn't exactly sound like the best idea on paper w/r/t what the bean counters might and might not want to do.

Yeah I understand you can google an average salary derived from surveys but I was referring to actual job listings with "$XXX,XXX salary" within the listing. I think it's more powerful with respect to this issue to see an actual job listing. For example, in college I remember having a passing interest in chemE because the starting salary was reported to be on CNN like 60K back then. But seeing an actual job listing my bud pulled for me from Exxon's intranet starting at $78K for a new grad was like "wow here is this real job in X location where some dude is gonna paid 80 grand"

 

[xf3rn4nd3sx]

Anyone else think it's a bad practice for recruiters to post gas salaries online in job postings which are easily accessible for the public to see? It's clear that the public is not happy with how much money doctors make; you only need to look at the comments on any healthcare reform related article or video online and someone is attacking physician salaries no more than 10 entries in. Additionally, considering that anesthesiology is a field perceived as being overpaid by even our own colleagues in other specialties, how many would agree that gas salaries should stop being posted online? AFAIK, gas is the only one that does this. You'll be hard pressed to see cardiology salaries posted publically, for example.

I think it's a bad practice and just an easy way to become a target in this healthcare reform mess. Look at how Rad-onc's 15% scheduled cut was determined by CMS:

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=roc&pag=dis&ItemID=100271&wf=5032

Lol I think we all try to understate our salaries as much as possible, but that's not why the general public targets us. Investment banking, hedge fund analysts, private equity, law firm associate salaries are all available to see online. They blow physician salaries out of the water. The majority of the public isn't going to search for jobs in a given specialty. They base their assumptions of salary on what they see every day. Just look at your hospital parking lot... First line of cars at mine this morning was porsche 911, acura rl, audi q7, bmw Alpina B7. You don't have to have data available to know that those are physician cars and that they are making big bucks... We are targeted now because we're doing noticeably better than the vast majority of people around us. These are bad times. In good times, no one really cares what anyone else is making.

 

[jwk]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquel...e-best-and-worst-paying-jobs-for-doctors-2/2/

Here you go.

Funny - anesthesiology isn't even listed.

 

[Yangkower]

Maybe they should also include in theses postings how much of that awesome income will be paid in income taxes.

 

[aneftp]

All the public sees is the "average" doctor or in this case anesthesiologist makes XXX amount in their "salaries".

But salary doesn't mean much especially these days with high health care costs. Add paying premiums for disability/malpractice etc. It can eat at those supposedly high salaries. And it fails to factor into the actual work hours most anesthesiologist perform.

Just ask yourself, who's better off financially? Linda Tripp executive secretary during the Clinton Administration making 100K (I don't think he even has college degree) with full government benefits (health/dental/short term disability, guaranteed pay raises working 40 hours a week) or a Pediatrician making $120-150K with almost no benefits and overhead to cover with staffing.

Anesthesiologist salaries (while they appear high) are also associated with a great deal of responsibility. You make a mistake, you could have a dead patient. I like to compare anesthesiologists to pilots. Many experienced pilots make 150-200K. Of course the junior and less experienced pilots working the regional airlines make much less (say $30K). But these salaries are before benefits kick in.

Many physician salaries are not associated with any benefits unless they work for a hospital as a W2 (even then you don't get much in terms of matching benefits because you are considered a high income wage earner).

 

[yappy]

It is interesting how the public focuses in on physician salaries. For example - many people I know who have beef with physician salaries don't question executive or engineering salaries at businesses they frequent such as apple or google.

They have never said "why do those Apple engineers or executives make so much. If they made less maybe my monthly cell phone bill or I-phone might be cheaper".

Although I have heard "Why do we pay doctors so much? I mean we all pay taxes or ins premiums that covers their salaries. They work for us".

Disturbing...

EDIT: To me physicians truly earn their wealth. They generate all the revenue that they collect. Many execs are overhead and are able to benefit from the ponzey scheme that is the corporation. Why people scrutinize honest pay for honest work is beyond me.

 

[Consigliere]

It is interesting how the public focuses in on physician salaries. For example - many people I know who have beef with physician salaries don't question executive or engineering salaries at businesses they frequent such as apple or google.

They have never said "why do those Apple engineers or executives make so much. If they made less maybe my monthly cell phone bill or I-phone might be cheaper".

Although I have heard "Why do we pay doctors so much? I mean we all pay taxes or ins premiums that covers their salaries. They work for us".

Disturbing...

EDIT: To me physicians truly earn their wealth. They generate all the revenue that they collect. Many execs are overhead and are able to benefit from the ponzey scheme that is the corporation. Why people scrutinize honest pay for honest work is beyond me.

It's not beyond me; the explanation is quite simple : people are stupid.