Student Evaluators

[davethewave2255]

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Hey,

Is it fair to assume that our tour guides are not reporting back our opinions/statements back to the medical school? Is it fair to assume they do not evaluate us?

(This is obviously ignoring scenarios where the student tour guide hears an offensive/derogatory comment of some sort).

 

[Cytarabine]

It's entirely school dependent. They don't at mine

 

[WedgeDawg]

They don't at mine, but I can't speak for any other school.

 

[terra330]

It's probably fair to say that at most schools, but I wouldn't assume that unless they tell you they have no role in admissions decisions. And even then, if you say something crass or otherwise raise a red flag in some way, I'm sure that will find its way back to the committee in some way or another.

 

[0dee]

I would be careful about what is being said during the tour, social dinner and anytime you're meeting with people from the school. You don't want to say something that will get you red flagged and mess up your chances.

 

[Cytarabine]

It's probably fair to say that at most schools, but I wouldn't assume that unless they tell you they have no role in admissions decisions. And even then, if you say something crass or otherwise raise a red flag in some way, I'm sure that will find its way back to the committee in some way or another.

Yea, I'll say that it varies from tour guide to tour guide as well. If someone said to me while I was touring that they really had no intention of attending my school and they just interviewed because it was convenient, I couldn't care less. I could see someone else forwarding that info. I think a reasonable general guideline is - (1) don't assume tour guides don't report back; (2) if tour guides tell you they don't report back, they're likely telling the truth (frankly wouldn't want to attend a school that sent out tour guides that lied about this regardless). If they don't report back, I'd feel comfortable asking more pointed questions than I would to an interviewer / staff. "I heard from a friend that the medicine department here was kind of malignant - what's your experience been?" Pointed question, reasonable for an applicant to be concerned about, one they might not want to pose to an interviewer. That doesn't mean cut loose and start saying stupid crap.

 

[whatever5]

I think that as a general guideline, while they may say they aren't involved in the admissions process, treat them as if they do. If anything, I'm sure certain students would report back to admissions if they feel you said/did something super unprofessional.

 

[pyrrion89]

It's safe to say the majority, if not the vast majority, of tour guides, students who dine with you, etc., are not given specific instruction to evaluate you. Nor will they. However, if you behave particularly poorly, I'm sure some might contact the admissions office and tell them about it. And that'd be terrible for your chances. It's safe just to act nice to everyone, constantly. And it's better for your life if you simply are nice to everyone.

I know for a fact one interviewee this year had something like this happen at our school. They were allowed to sit in on a small group discussion, and they decided it would be good to constantly interrupt the discussion leader to show off their knowledge. The students--none of whom were probably affiliated with admissions--were so taken aback they wrote the admissions office.

 

[mvenus929]

When I was a tour guide, I did not sit on the admissions committee. We were not permitted to do both. That said, I was friends with every single fourth year student that did sit on the admissions committee, so if I was particularly impressed or unimpressed by someone, I could tell one of my friends who did sit on the committee and they would form their opinion accordingly. A couple of time, I was even asked by my friends what I thought about the candidates.

Same went for student hosts. I wasn't specifically asked about the candidates, but if I felt particularly strong about a candidate, I could let the dean of admissions (who happened to also be my dean for student affairs) know. I'm pretty sure I got someone into our school that way.

 

[Petrichor1]

it's a small world out there. Doesn't matter that they do or don't, you should probably take the whole event as one big interview (sad for the party animal haha).

 

[hmockingbird]

Same went for student hosts. I wasn't specifically asked about the candidates, but if I felt particularly strong about a candidate, I could let the dean of admissions (who happened to also be my dean for student affairs) know. I'm pretty sure I got someone into our school that way.

Same with us. There was a girl in our class who was a host and the interviewee majorly took advantage of her hospitality (don't remember details but the person was really obnoxious) and she ended up telling someone on the adcom after discussing it with a bunch of us and everyone thinking it was bad enough to report. At our school, student hosts are volunteers and don't have any obligation to report back, but in an extreme situation, it could come to that point like with this interviewee.

 

[JessebenBenjamin]

It's safe to say the majority, if not the vast majority, of tour guides, students who dine with you, etc., are not given specific instruction to evaluate you. Nor will they. However, if you behave particularly poorly, I'm sure some might contact the admissions office and tell them about it. And that'd be terrible for your chances. It's safe just to act nice to everyone, constantly. And it's better for your life if you simply are nice to everyone.

I know for a fact one interviewee this year had something like this happen at our school. They were allowed to sit in on a small group discussion, and they decided it would be good to constantly interrupt the discussion leader to show off their knowledge. The students--none of whom were probably affiliated with admissions--were so taken aback they wrote the admissions office.

That's so freaking crazy... why would anyone do that...

 

[Goro]

They do at ours, but you have to be a real dickhead to get reported on.

Hey,

Is it fair to assume that our tour guides are not reporting back our opinions/statements back to the medical school? Is it fair to assume they do not evaluate us?

(This is obviously ignoring scenarios where the student tour guide hears an offensive/derogatory comment of some sort).

 

[mistafab]

Hey,

Is it fair to assume that our tour guides are not reporting back our opinions/statements back to the medical school? Is it fair to assume they do not evaluate us?

(This is obviously ignoring scenarios where the student tour guide hears an offensive/derogatory comment of some sort).

Students at schools I went to said they were asked "who did you like" and "who didn't you like" after the interview day. The first did not do anything for the admissions process, but anyone that outright wasn't liked was kicked.