Study drugs

[Apparition]

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Do you guys use anything that helps you concentrate better and stay awake longer when studying? Red Bull doesn't do much for me anymore and coffee makes me feel like crap. With finals approaching, I'm contemplating taking something like dexedrine or aderall. I hate the thought of taking drugs I don't need but lately I haven't been able to concentrate at all.

 

[bella_dottoressa]

You talk like you can just get something like adderall on a whim. It's a pxn drug, and tightly monitored if I'm not mistaken?

Anyhow, prepare to get a lot of backlash in response to this. It IS warranted, but I can understand where you are. I used to take ripped fuel back when it had ephedra in it.

 

[ehd327]

The motto I always follow:

"Up with hope, DOWN with dope!" -- Dave Chapelle (Half-baked)

Don't take drugs. If you read some other threads, there have been cases of addiction and illness associated with "mental enhancement"-type drugs. You might develop a dependency that could carry on for the rest of your academic career (kinda exagerrated but nevertheless possible). If generic coffee (like a daily coffe from starbucks etc.) makes you sick, try this: Get some freeze dried stuff, fill a tall glass with a little bit of warm water, dissolve a spoon of coffee and sugar in the water, fill the rest of the glass with milk. Tastes damn good and is not as strong as brewed coffee house stuff (in my opinion). The milk might have a soothing effect on the stomach (i'm no doctor, but i will be someday!)

Good Luck.

 

[Rendar5]

are you sure you're not overtaking caffeine (you wouldn't easily notice if you built a tolerance) or withdrawing from caffeine (you'll be getting headaches if that's happening)? I haven't been able to concentrate well during either of those periods

 

[NotShorty]

You DO get accustomed to caffeine, whatever the source.

I'd imagine that rotating between coffee and ephedra would work, although I usually just tend to binge-drink coffee. Although, life is certainly a bleak, gray hell without the delicious magic bean-drink.

As for stomach irritation, drink you coffee without cream (try soy milk if you really need the whiteness) and never on an empty stomach. I'm not sure why this works, but it does.

Yes, I'd really like some adderall, or just a brain that is capable on focusing on what I want it to, but am afraid of addiction.

"I used to suck d*ck for coke. You ever suck some d*ck for marijuana?!"
-Bob Saget in Half-Baked

 

[Gleevec]

I guess SDN has come to stand for "Study Drug Network"

 

[NE_Cornhusker1]

try xenadrine efx.

 

[Giving My .02]

I don't want to sound like a mother, but just get some good sleep and cut back on something. There must be something like television or going out with friends that you can hault for a week or two. I honestly wouldn't get in the habit of taking any drugs to stay awake. I don't think it is good for your body, and by the time the tests actually come around, you won't be on top of your game. What I do is take power naps. Instead of going for the all nighter, I might go to sleep at one and get up at three, take a shower, and that really works. Hope that helps.

 

[mattorama]

exercise....it does the body AND mind good...

 

[Rendar5]

you'll do better if you get some sleep (3 hours is enough for me) and avoid the drugs since caffeine actually interferes with concentration while giving the appearance that it enhances concentration. It will keep you awake and pissing, though.

 

[Rendar5]

you'll do better if you get some sleep (3 hours is enough for me) and avoid the drugs for studying since caffeine actually interferes with concentration while giving the appearance that it enhances concentration. It will keep you awake and pissing, though.

 

[jules0328]

I took Xenadrine, ephedra based, for three years (before it got banned by the FDA ). It is addicting and it was hard to come off from it. My cousin actually still gets Xeandrine but gets it shipped from Spain, cant find ephedra based supplements here in the US. Unless you do a lot of scurrying around for it.

As far as Aderall, it's been a thought of mine to try it. My little brother actually has tons of it at my house, he has ADD. He is 18 mg of Concerta, and as he has gotten older, his dosage has increased, but my mom kept the lower dosages for emergencies for him, in case he ran out of the 18 mg.

While I dont believe that one should self medicate and take drugs on a whim, I cant say that I have not thought about taking Aderall, and still think about it once in a while. We will see how next semester is, I will report back.

 

[PhotoMD]

This is sick, you guys are probably going to be able to prescribe drugs someday! Set an example!

 

[Ypo.]

How sad.

When I was studying for the MCAT, my boyfriend's dad was trying to talk me into taking some type of speed pill during the test-he kept referring to some tests that had shown improved test scores for those who took speed during them. Well, I told him what I thought of that.

I won't take speed and ephedrine and ritalin just to make it through pre-med, or the MCAT, or medical school. Thats too dangerous a road to take. Not to mention I look at it as being dishonest (kind of like a triathlete taking steroids).

If you suspect you have ADD, then go to the doctor and get a prescription.

For the rest of us, the drug isn't going to make that big of a difference in your grade,-it won't make up for being "slow" or failing to study. Obviously you are smart enough to do the work, you are just using the drugs as a crutch. And its a dangerous crutch-you are playing with fire... You really don't want to start relying heavily on addictive, rx drugs.

 

[avinash]

I guess SDN has come to stand for "Study Drug Network"

study drug network

 

[stoic]

I'm not going to sit here and proselytize for wanting to use rx drugs to help you study. The truth is that they will in fact help you study. You probably won't get addicted, and you mostly likely wouldn't have any adverse health affects. In the end, it's your choice, and frankly even if you were one of my classmates I wouldn't give a rats ass if you were using them.

But you should know that it's a REALLY bad idea for a number of reasons. Here's a few of the reasons I'd never use a stimulant (other than caffeine or psuedofed)

1) when exactly do you plan on stopping? although being a premed is hard, the demands on your time during med school and residency are even greater.

2) posessing a controlled substance without a rx is a felony. plain and simple. try explaining that on your AMCAS

3) there is the ethical issue that other have mentioned: these are controlled substances, and right or wrong, you should probably be respecting the laws that are going to be a big part of your career

4) posting about using these drugs on SDN is a bad idea. why? because adcoms really do read this site... there's not much of a chance of them figuring out who you are (or them even caring).... but it is a chance you take.


Now, the ethics of WHY these drugs are available only by rx is another debate entirely. You are probably smart enough to look up the perscribing info on adderall in the pdr and to use it in a safe manner (as most adults probably are). But that doesn't change the legality of the situation.

So I'd say go brew a cup of coffee, or take a couple psuedofed, and tough it out.

Peace,
S

 

[iamgoaloriented]

Do you guys use anything that helps you concentrate better and stay awake longer when studying? Red Bull doesn't do much for me anymore and coffee makes me feel like crap. With finals approaching, I'm contemplating taking something like dexedrine or aderall. I hate the thought of taking drugs I don't need but lately I haven't been able to concentrate at all.

I hope you are a troll. If you take drugs to do better in class, especially if you are doing ok but take drugs to be a top student, you need to go see a psychiatist and I suppose you can ask him/her for the drugs while you are there. I dont know about dexedrine or aderall, but you might get some Zoloft.

I recommend sleep myself. I've had experiences when I needed to cram for a test but was too tired to concentrate, so I went to bed, woke up to study, and I retained the info fine. A well rested mind can get more done in an hour or two than you can do in an all nighter when you start off the night exhausted.

If you are serious get some sleep and make sure you have some fun. Talk to someone if you need to.

If you are a troll that is not funny. I am one of the last people on this forum who should be critizing people for trolling, but I am sure that there are a few people on this forum who are obsessive enough to do that, and they honestly need help.

 

[Ypo.]

A well rested mind can get more done in an hour or two than you can do in an all nighter when you start off the night exhausted.

This is true.

Also, respectfully, I disagree with Stoic that you 'probably' won't get addicted. There is no way to tell who will/won't get addicted to these drugs. The best thing to do is to just not find out.

It seems that some people are considering these drugs in order to 'squeeze more hours out of the day'. At some point, your brain stops functioning well from lack of sleep, even if your body is still awake. Any drug that keeps you 'up' when you're tired will give you an extra zip for a few hours, followed by a 'crash' and sleep, which will be hard to recover from.

"Watch what you're doing, taking downs to get off to sleep, and ups to start you on your way...after a while, they'll change your style....mmmmm, mmmm, I see it happenin' every day..." -Paul Simon





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[Will Ferrell]

If you need adderal, ephedrine, or large doses of caffeine to get through college, you're going to need crack, cocaine, and crystal meth to get through med school. Here's a technique which works for me: SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, AND STUDY!!! 🙂

 

[tinkerbelle]

HI Apparition 🙂

Long time no see! I thought you were working and done with school. Anyways. I hope finals go well & i hope you find an alternative to study drugs (drugs 👎 👎 👎 )

Perhaps you need a mini-distraction... can you grab some friends and take a little break or something? Maybe after a little destressing & a good nights sleep you'll be ready to study again.

Good luck Apparition I'm sure you'll find a way to get through exams.

 

[medic170]

If you need adderal, ephedrine, or large doses of caffeine to get through college, you're going to need crack, cocaine, and crystal meth to get through med school. Here's a technique which works for me: SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, AND STUDY!!! 🙂

👍 👍

If you have ADD, get a Rx. If you don't, quit whining and work hard like the rest of us. Do you want to be a hard working med student or a drug abusing med student? (yes, if you use it without an Rx, that is indeed DRUG ABUSE, even if you are not addicted yet).

It's kind of like these athletes that use steroids, only 1,000 times worse because we should have more integrity, morality, and self respect.

 

[45408]

This is sick, you guys are probably going to be able to prescribe drugs someday! Set an example!

You do realize that the percentage of med students that abuse controlled substances is about the same as those who abuse drugs in the general population, right?

I've never tried drugs, but you shouldn't be surprised that others have.

 

[PhotoMD]

How about sex? That is usually a good route.

 

[PuKcAo]

Adderall use on college campuses seems to have recently sky rocketed. I read somewhere that georgetown and some other school did a study and estimate that 1 in 5 students use "study drugs" ....that is illegal study drugs not caffeine and the like.

I bet there are a lot of SDNers that take em...

 

[PhotoMD]

You do realize that the percentage of med students that abuse controlled substances is about the same as those who abuse drugs in the general population, right?

I've never tried drugs, but you shouldn't be surprised that others have.

True, but I suppose I expected at least some guilt and shame about it. I didn't expect people to be asking about tips about it.

 

[PuKcAo]

4) posting about using these drugs on SDN is a bad idea. why? because adcoms really do read this site... there's not much of a chance of them figuring out who you are (or them even caring).... but it is a chance you take.


S

Do we know this to be true or do we just perputuate someone's speculation? if we know it's true then what's the evidence? I don't know why they would waste there time trying to investigate what person said what and try to analyze his character...

 

[stoic]

Do we know this to be true or do we just perputuate someone's speculation? if we know it's true then what's the evidence? I don't know why they would waste there time trying to investigate what person said what and try to analyze his character...

Absolutely this is true. Do a search for threads about it. At my interview, and many others' interview, SDN was mentioned. Some of the schools even have official liasons that post on SDN when questions about their schools come up (either students or employee's).

Generally they are more concerned with the perception of the school/their interview process amoungst applicants, but they are here.

 

[PuKcAo]

Absolutely this is true. Do a search for threads about it. At my interview, and many others' interview, SDN was mentioned. Some of the schools even have official liasons that post on SDN when questions about their schools come up (either students or employee's).

Generally they are more concerned with the perception of the school/their interview process amoungst applicants, but they are here.

What do the interviewers say about it? they ask what your handle is?

 

[Shades McCool]

I don't even get any caffeine during the day. Y'all are hardcore.

 

[stoic]

What do the interviewers say about it? they ask what your handle is?

no, it's more like "see... today wasn't so bad... be sure to mention that on sdn" or "today should be about what you expected if you've been reading sdn"

 

[Zephyrus]

HI Apparition 🙂

Long time no see! I thought you were working and done with school. Anyways. I hope finals go well & i hope you find an alternative to study drugs (drugs 👎 👎 👎 )

Perhaps you need a mini-distraction... can you grab some friends and take a little break or something? Maybe after a little destressing & a good nights sleep you'll be ready to study again.

Good luck Apparition I'm sure you'll find a way to get through exams.

I knew a kid who used to snort study drugs. He ran into some serious medical problems. Don't do it. If you are ever in the situation where study drugs seem like a necessity, you need to rethink your schedule or work on time-management or SOMETHING, but it's simply never worth it.

Z

 

[stoic]

I knew a kid who used to snort study drugs. He ran into some serious medical problems. Don't do it. If you are ever in the situation where study drugs seem like a necessity, you need to rethink your schedule or work on time-management or SOMETHING, but it's simply never worth it.

Z

i would imagine that snorting study drugs would probably get you just a wee bit too wired to get anything useful done