Study in the United Kingdom??
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Look around the forums, and you will find that it is the overwhelming opinion of premedical students, medical students, doctors, Adcoms, and generally people that going abroad to study is about the worst thing you could do if you want to practice medicine in the United States due to many factors, including the rising number of US-MD and DO students who are filling more and more residency slots. It's hard enough to come back and try to get a residency with an MBBS. Try getting into medical school with a foreign degree...
However, if your heart is set on study abroad, here are the ways you can do it (I will be basing all qualifications on the international student standards and the medical program requirements at the University of Oxford):
1. Take IB in your junior and senior years of high school and do well. If you're shooting to be an Oxford man (or woman), you're looking at a 7, 6, 6 at HL in Chemistry, Biology OR Physics, and Mathematics. OR
2. Take AP in your junior and senior years of high school and do well. If you're looking to be an Oxford man (or woman), you're looking at 5, 5, 5, for the AP tests in the same subject OR SAT IIs of >700. On top of that, either a 1400 combined Math/CR on the SAT OR a >32 ACT.
3. You will need to take the UKCAT.
4. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/ Read up on this website to find out how to gain a student visa.
5. .....aaaand here's how you get a passport: http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html
Good luck. I wanted to go abroad too until I started seriously researching... Happily applying to CCNY this coming fall.
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May I ask why you would choose to go to the United Kingdom?
Hello!
I know two UK students studying for med (apparently, there is no pre-med. It is 5 years in the UK and 2 years of mandatory residency regardless of specialty). They said that they want to do residency in the UK but then move and work in the US. How will this turn out? I do not know. However, if you want to study abroad I highly recommend getting licensed as a physician in UK and then move to US.
These two UK students, who are behind me right now, reckon to get licensed and when they come to the States all they would need to do is pass US board exams and get licensed to work there.
They said that if you are an American citizen and retain it throughout your studies and residency, you should return to the States and get yourself qualified to work there no problem.
"He can easily get into residency programs here, as there are many international students who get in easily. But he'll have to pay 20,000 pounds a year which I think is cheaper. He will have to do 5 years of school and two years of residency. Many people will recommend getting licensed first and then go back to the States for testing since you can practice anywhere instead of doing 4 years of residency with a foreign degree. That is if you get in, my sister and I want to finish residency here and then try our luck in the States." - UK student, second year med school.
EDIT: I have been informed in another thread that if you finish residency in the UK and come to the US as a licensed doctor, you have to re-do residency entirely. I recommend unless you want to work in the UK to go to school in the States because for the fewer years of med school the whole re-do residency thing just doesn't seem worth it. But I suppose you have your reasons.
Hoped it helped!
I know two UK students studying for med (apparently, there is no pre-med. It is 5 years in the UK and 2 years of mandatory residency regardless of specialty). They said that they want to do residency in the UK but then move and work in the US. How will this turn out? I do not know. However, if you want to study abroad I highly recommend getting licensed as a physician in UK and then move to US.
These two UK students, who are behind me right now, reckon to get licensed and when they come to the States all they would need to do is pass US board exams and get licensed to work there.
They said that if you are an American citizen and retain it throughout your studies and residency, you should return to the States and get yourself qualified to work there no problem.
"He can easily get into residency programs here, as there are many international students who get in easily. But he'll have to pay 20,000 pounds a year which I think is cheaper. He will have to do 5 years of school and two years of residency. Many people will recommend getting licensed first and then go back to the States for testing since you can practice anywhere instead of doing 4 years of residency with a foreign degree. That is if you get in, my sister and I want to finish residency here and then try our luck in the States." - UK student, second year med school.
EDIT: I have been informed in another thread that if you finish residency in the UK and come to the US as a licensed doctor, you have to re-do residency entirely. I recommend unless you want to work in the UK to go to school in the States because for the fewer years of med school the whole re-do residency thing just doesn't seem worth it. But I suppose you have your reasons.
Hoped it helped!
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Just curious 1Dlover, which guy is your favorite? 😉
Have you considered spending a summer earning credits (while you're still in high school) in the UK? A program like this might be a good way to experience living and studying there for a while. There's also studying abroad with programs like CIEE. Since you're a sophomore you definitely have time to research and find the option that works for you. It's pretty sick that your dad was offered a job over there, too.
Have you considered spending a summer earning credits (while you're still in high school) in the UK? A program like this might be a good way to experience living and studying there for a while. There's also studying abroad with programs like CIEE. Since you're a sophomore you definitely have time to research and find the option that works for you. It's pretty sick that your dad was offered a job over there, too.
As someone said there is no pre-med in the UK (or most of the rest of the world), you usually go straight from secondary school (high school) to med school and it is 5-6 years depending on where you go and if you do additional things. There are also 4 year courses for grads. Our education is very different to yours, when I was in the US I was talking to some of the attendings and what they did in their final years of college (at an Ivy) I did at 16 which is one of the reasons pre-med isn't needed here. As a foreigner the requirements to get in are actually no where near equivalent to what a UK student would need so in that sense it is not too hard - go to the UCAS website for a list of schools then thier websites for requirements. You can only apply to 4 schools though, the thinking being if you aren't good enough to get into one of those you just aren't good enough to get in. You can reapply the next year though.
There were people in my year and the year below me at med school from the US and Canada, all went straight home after med school and none had any trouble matching. However it really isn't the best idea, the atmosphere in medicine is very different in the UK and if you plan to work in the US you would serve yourself better to train there. There are a lot of behaviours that are considered completely unacceptable in the UK that are essentially expected in the US.
Also, as for specialty training in the UK, there are multiple levels of reapplication, you may train for several years in a specialty and then just never make it to the next level and have to start all over. Our training is also far longer than yours and we earn a lot less. UK surgeons tend to consider US training as inferior however (for many reasons), US surgeons have little interest in anything that goes on outside of the US (at least in my experience). Don't get me wrong, I totally adore some of the US guys but the culture is totally different.
There were people in my year and the year below me at med school from the US and Canada, all went straight home after med school and none had any trouble matching. However it really isn't the best idea, the atmosphere in medicine is very different in the UK and if you plan to work in the US you would serve yourself better to train there. There are a lot of behaviours that are considered completely unacceptable in the UK that are essentially expected in the US.
Also, as for specialty training in the UK, there are multiple levels of reapplication, you may train for several years in a specialty and then just never make it to the next level and have to start all over. Our training is also far longer than yours and we earn a lot less. UK surgeons tend to consider US training as inferior however (for many reasons), US surgeons have little interest in anything that goes on outside of the US (at least in my experience). Don't get me wrong, I totally adore some of the US guys but the culture is totally different.
There I was Study for London.There are Good Study but i have Need to money so i need to part time job but there i did not get a job.so i had come to return my home.
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