Succeeded in getting in with Horrifying MCATs!

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someone who I know from work got in with a 25 MCAT...a non-URM to boot. 😱 Can you believe that? I thought 25 is a horrible number..don't you think? what is the absolute lowest MCAT scores that you have heard of for non-URMs who got into med school??

 

[Ypo.]

I agree, absolutely horrifying. Imagine the stupiditity of such a person.
Seriously, though- use common sense here. If you have a really high GPA, maybe a masters degree, and good ECs you can get in. Basically if one area of your application is lacking but all others are superb-this is when you hear about people getting accepted.

 

[derf]

I know of an 18 MCAT and accepted to allopathic. I also heard of a few people getting in allo with a 24-26 range.

 

[ambrosia]

25 is low, but not horrible as you say. Keep in mind that the average MCAT score is 24 -25. Looking through the stats from my school, people have gotten accepted from here to various med schools with MCATs as low as 20. They are few and far between, but it does happen. To be competive you would probably want AT LEAST a 28 or above, for MD schools that is. Most DO schools have mcat averages in the 26-28 range, so it's pretty easy to get into those schools with a lower mcat score.

 

[NubianPrincess]

I agree, absolutely horrifying. Imagine the stupiditity of such a person.

Isn't it just disgusting? 🙄

 

[ndi_amaka]

I know someone who got into a Tx school for the class of 2008, non URm, with an 18.

 

[Ypo.]

Glad someone caught that. Just reading that score made me shudder.

Love your name.

 

[SEUPATTY]

someone who I know from work got in with a 25 MCAT...a non-URM to boot. 😱 Can you believe that? I thought 25 is a horrible number..don't you think? what is the absolute lowest MCAT scores that you have heard of for non-URMs who got into med school??

Sounds like you may be a little jealous Like someone said before me, maybe they have a strong application elsewhere. I have heard many doctros say that good Standardized test scores do not mean you will make a good physician 🙂

 

[EvoDevo]

For your n00

's who are acting all upset about this, realize that MCAT score doesn't necessarily predict success in med school, or even on STEP 1.

Don't believe me? Then I suggest visiting the following thread:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=132597

wherein SDNers of all stripes post how they did on the test, along with other data including the MCAT.

The take home message: So what? If they're in, then they're in. Stop yer bitchin. 😀

 

[dr.z]

For your n00

's who are acting all upset about this, realize that MCAT score doesn't necessarily predict success in med school, or even on STEP 1.

Don't believe me? Then I suggest visiting the following thread:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=132597

wherein SDNers of all stripes post how they did on the test, along with other data including the MCAT.

The take home message: So what? If they're in, then they're in. Stop yer bitchin. 😀

I agree. A doctor is a doctor regardless of your MCAT scores. Who knows they may even be better at the profession than those scoring amazingly high scores.

 

[Ypo.]

Ha! That is exactly what I have said in other posts. Quote "You do not have to be a genius to do well in medical school (gasp!)" Even if you scored relatively low on the MCAT you can do great if you work hard. Of course, being a genius would probably make it easier-but even a genius has to work hard in medical school - (I think).

 

[thewzdoc]

someone who I know from work got in with a 25 MCAT...a non-URM to boot. 😱 Can you believe that? I thought 25 is a horrible number..don't you think? what is the absolute lowest MCAT scores that you have heard of for non-URMs who got into med school??

Yes I can believe it.... have you read through the MSAR yet? 25 is not impossibly low depending on the GPA, School, LOR?s and such. You need to stop looking at one number as defining a person man. Why did you even mention the URM thing!? What does that have to do with a friggen 25 MCAT!? 👎

 

[thewzdoc]

For your n00

's who are acting all upset about this, realize that MCAT score doesn't necessarily predict success in med school, or even on STEP 1.

The take home message: So what? If they're in, then they're in. Stop yer bitchin. 😀

👍

Friggen N00bies.....

 

[Ypo.]

Yes I can believe it.... have you read through the MSAR yet? 25 is not impossibly low depending on the GPA, School, LOR?s and such. You need to stop looking at one number as defining a person man. Why did you even mention the URM thing!? What does that have to do with a friggen 25 MCAT!? 👎

What the heck is a non-URM? Excuse my ignorance-its like alphabet soup around here!

 

[thewzdoc]

What the heck is a non-URM? Excuse my ignorance-its like alphabet soup around here!

URM (Under Represented Minority)?..so a non-URM is a white dude?..

You will get used to the alphabet soup when you get into a hospital setting.....

 

[md2b2b]

I know of an 18 MCAT and accepted to allopathic. I also heard of a few people getting in allo with a 24-26 range.

What school did the person get into with an 18 on the mcat? Just curious.

 

[thewzdoc]

What school did the person get into with an 18 on the mcat? Just curious.

Good question....I know the MSAR states that there have been people accepted to school with a score of 18 they didn't say which school.....

 

[derf]

What school did the person get into with an 18 on the mcat? Just curious.

texas school, i think texas tech

 

[thewzdoc]

texas school, i think texas tech

.....interesting...I wonder how we find out for sure.....maybe I'll call in the morning.....here is the number in case someone wants to beat me to the punch: (806) 743-2297

 

[uclabruin2003]

ok 25 is not that bad. since 24-25 is the real average of those who take the mcats....but 18 is a little...well bad. anyway you divide it up...it cant look so good. but i agree...as long as you are in medical school...it is what counts.

i could care less if my doctor got a 30 versus a 25....just as long as s/he is competent...im good to go!

 

[ZOT! ZOT!]

I know a 24/3.8 on the east coast...

 

[Code Brown]

According to my friend from Umich, their range for the incoming class (2008) was 25-42.

 

[hotlikebutter]

For your n00

's who are acting all upset about this, realize that MCAT score doesn't necessarily predict success in med school, or even on STEP 1.

Don't believe me? Then I suggest visiting the following thread:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=132597

wherein SDNers of all stripes post how they did on the test, along with other data including the MCAT.

The take home message: So what? If they're in, then they're in. Stop yer bitchin. 😀

i hate to say it, but the research does support how well you do on the USMLE step one and MCAT performance as described on the AMCAS website, unless I have misunderstood the data. True mcat alone was not significant independent of undergraduate GPA, but alone, it was a better predictor of USMLE scores than GPA alone. Now taken together they are the strongest predictor. Now you can bring up many statistical issues when gathering these results, but for right now, I think many schools would take a high MCAT over a high GPA if they had to choose one. I personally think it's sad, but this is just one loop you have to jump through if you want the MD. When I take over the world, I will make sure this one thing I address 😀

 

[illiniTJ]

Now you can bring up many statistical issues when gathering these results, but for right now, I think many schools would take a high MCAT over a high GPA if they had to choose one.

okay, i don't want to pick on you specifically hotlikebutter, but I notice this all the time on SDN. How do you all form these crazy opinions that high MCAT over a high GPA is favored by many schools? Unless you know multiple admissions officers or have done studies or read studies (which haven't really been done, cause I've checked), you can't really predict what's best. That's what I love about med apps. Even though people may call it a crap shoot, someone with any combination of outstanding E.C.'s, MCATs, GPA, LOR, essays, interview, background, and other factors i'm sure we're unaware of can get in. I feel like I have an overall outstanding application except for one part of my MCAT in which I got a 6 in. Sure, I could retake the test(I am) and get some more questions correct to raise my score above 30, but studying my butt off for a summer to get a few more questions correct on a test will not make me a better doctor in the future. I am positive schools look at the full package as long as you meet their minimum required numbers. I wish more focus was spent on other activities than the number game on this forum, people get so caught up in the number game that they don't realize how important other stuff is. I think that's a reason why people like me with a 25 on the MCAT have received NYU secondaries, while those with 30+'s have not. So it that case, in reference to hotlikebutters statement, I think a high GPA, along with dozens of other factors is more important that a high MCAT. with that said, i'm going to waste my day reading some MCAT passages- 👍

 

[SanDiegoSOD]

Getting into medical school is more about the quality of hospital that you volunteered at then your GPA or MCAT score. 🙄

Let's face it, people: We dont know how much each bit of application criteria is weighted. GPA and MCAT are tops, but do they correspond to half the application's strength? One quarter, or maybe even 90%? (like Wash U 🙂) Let's try not to debate things that we dont too much about.

 

[katnapper]

Let's try not to debate things that we dont too much about.

Wow. Maybe that comment should be posted on each and every thread. Heh. 😉

 

[WalterSobchakk]

Wow. Maybe that comment should be posted on each and every thread. Heh. 😉

👍

 

[ShyRem]

1. There's more to being a good doctor than high numbers. If you don't think so, think of all those nerdy geeks with absolutely no social functionality - high numbers, but would you want them for your doctor? (NOTE: not all nerdy geeks fall into this category - there are plenty that have fabulous personalities). Also, what about all the gunners who only think of numbers (and lord knows they have high ones) who don't actually CARE about anyone else? You want them treating you? Medicine is about people, and the art of medicine is a painting of varying shades of grey - not black and white solve-with-this equation.

2. If 24-25 is the 50% mark, and about 50% of all applicants make it into med school, and MSAR says that about 30-50% of high MCAT folks don't make it in, then of COURSE a stinkin' good percentage of those folks with 24-25 MCAT are going to get in.

3. On a personal note, I know a guy in my O-chem class who got a 19 on his MCAT who went to AUC (allo in the caribbean). He also got a C in O-chem and it was the only class he was taking at the time.

 

[Scandal]

There's more to being a good doctor than high numbers. If you don't think so, think of all those nerdy geeks with absolutely no social functionality - high numbers, but would you want them for your doctor? (NOTE: not all nerdy geeks fall into this category - there are plenty that have fabulous personalities). Also, what about all the gunners who only think of numbers (and lord knows they have high ones) who don't actually CARE about anyone else? You want them treating you? Medicine is about people, and the art of medicine is a painting of varying shades of grey - not black and white solve-with-this equation.

Well said, ShyRem.

 

[Alexander99]

I know of an 18 MCAT and accepted to allopathic. I also heard of a few people getting in allo with a 24-26 range.

Was the person with an 18 mentally incompetent or just filling in random bubbles?