Summer before M1 temporary job

[Magyarzorag]

I will be moving back home over the summer for 9 weeks, and was wondering how feasible a temp job is. I don't want a minimum wage job, but a job that uses my degree and pays at least $3k monthly. I was considering working as a clinical coordinator for a hospital department, national park biologist or park ranger, or even working for the state department. My questions is are any of these jobs feasible for working only 9 weeks at (I definitely wont' be telling my employer I'll only be working 9 weeks)

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[Cornfed101]

No. Try to find any temp job. The jobs you are describing could take weeks to train you. You definitely don’t have to settle for minimum wage, but try to find something seasonal

 

[Angus Avagadro]

Find the job that pays best. Construction and paving crews look for summer help if that's your thing. If not, be a barista and enjoy your next to the last summer off. Summer between M1 and M2 will be your last. Congrats on your admission.

 

[deleted804295]

I'm doing outreach work with the public health department of the school I just graduated from.

They're paying me $27 an hour (although the hours are low) so it's not impossible to find seasonal jobs before med school.

Universities happen to have a ton of jobs affiliated with them so I'd start there first.

 

[Magyarzorag]

Is it bad if I apply for a normal fulltime job and quit 2 months in?

 

[CheeseCurd]

Is it bad if I apply for a normal fulltime job and quit 2 months in?

Most places take at least a few weeks to train you, so yes, quitting 2 months in would be a huge waste of their time and resources. This is especially true if they are unaware you were leaving so soon, "I definitely wont' be telling my employer I'll only be working 9 weeks. "

 

[KnightDoc]

Is it bad if I apply for a normal fulltime job and quit 2 months in?

Not sure if this is a troll or a test, but by the way you ask the question you seem to know the answer!

What you are asking is highly unethical, and you apparently know it "(I definitely wont' be telling my employer I'll only be working 9 weeks)." Assuming you are serious, doing something like this to make a few extra bucks for a few weeks could create problems for you down the road, depending on who you piss off, how vindictive they are, and how and when (and, of course, whether!) your paths cross in the future.

It's a terrible idea, but you don't need permission from an anonymous group of strangers on the Internet, so do what you want. If you are serious, you are likely to have all kinds of problems going forward in your chosen profession. Good luck!! 🙂

 

[candbgirl]

Just do Uber. Why take a job from someone who really wants it and will stay. I think it’s very unprofessional to take a job knowing you are leaving in 2 months.

 

[Clemson2005]

I just got a job as a clinical research assistant in a hospital full-time paying $19 per hour. Its pretty cool and definitely relevant. My plan is to just quit at the end of June a couple weeks before school starts. I also tutor as supplemental income which can be pretty lucrative if you have a decent clientele base. There is plenty of options, just need to cast a wide net (at least thats what I did)

 

[Suess]

My questions is are any of these jobs feasible for working only 9 weeks at (I definitely wont' be telling my employer I'll only be working 9 weeks)

Don't do this. This is scummy. See if you can work for a summer camp. You get paid, its lots of fun and fits your time frame.

 

[deleted804295]

Don't do this. This is scummy. See if you can work for a summer camp. You get paid, its lots of fun and fits your time frame.

I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't care about the ethics of quitting corporate jobs.

If it's a small business then be more ethical but a lot of these corporations will fire workers who have been there for 20+ years for stupid reasons such as getting cheap young workers.

 

[Cornfed101]

I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't care about the ethics of quitting corporate jobs.

If it's a small business then be more ethical but a lot of these corporations will fire workers who have been there for 20+ years for stupid reasons such as getting cheap young workers.

its still a hassle for your immediate supervisor and your coworkers

 

[deleted947265]

I will be moving back home over the summer for 9 weeks, and was wondering how feasible a temp job is. I don't want a minimum wage job, but a job that uses my degree and pays at least $3k monthly. I was considering working as a clinical coordinator for a hospital department, national park biologist or park ranger, or even working for the state department. My questions is are any of these jobs feasible for working only 9 weeks at (I definitely wont' be telling my employer I'll only be working 9 weeks)

All of those take a lot of on the job training. If you already had experience in those areas, then maybe but it is still a long shot.

Just work at a summer camp or something.

 

[Magyarzorag]

Just do Uber. Why take a job from someone who really wants it and will stay. I think it’s very unprofessional to take a job knowing you are leaving in 2 months.

Uber pays very little, especially given the operating costs of maintaining a vehicle. Furthermore, since you are an independent contractor, you automatically pay 15.3% FICA tax.

 

[caterwaiter]

I believe your original question has been answered. The job you want (pays 3k/month, uses your degree) is a career. It would be, as another user summed up nicely, "scummy" to trick an employer into hiring you for a career that you don't intend to stay in just because you want more money. Get a temp job.

 

[little_giant]

Im in the same situation except instead of 9 weeks its 6 months for me haha. Im considering jobs ranging from a barista to bank teller. They are all seasonal though. I was thinking about trying to get a full-time job but I decided against it since I would have to quit so quickly. Let me know what you end up doing!!

 

[deleted859689]

I'm currently a barista at the 'bucks. Free bag of coffee a week, health insurance (must work at least 20h a week), free spotify subscription, unlimited drinks, discount on online retail (name brand stuff), free food markout every day you work, extra $1.50/hour in tips. Good practice dealing with all sorts of people too.

Edit: oh and free classes at University of Arizona online apparently. Education: Starbucks Coffee Company
Here are all the benefits: https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/589a80b922dd41809f7058eb146338cb.pdf

 

[caterwaiter]

I'm currently a barista at the 'bucks. Free bag of coffee a week, health insurance (must work at least 20h a week), free spotify subscription, unlimited drinks, discount on online retail (name brand stuff), free food markout every day you work, extra $1.50/hour in tips. Good practice dealing with all sorts of people too.

Edit: oh and free classes at University of Arizona online apparently. Education: Starbucks Coffee Company
Here are all the benefits: https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/589a80b922dd41809f7058eb146338cb.pdf

Can second this--I was a barista all through undergrad and loved it. It's fun work as long as you're able to be on your feet most of the day and curate a decent 'customer service voice'.

 

[Cornfed101]

I was a door to door Kirby vacuum salesman one Summer. If you are good at selling stuff then something like that is an option.

 

[FutureSurgical]

Pretty high demands for someone that's willing to drop the job after 2 months. That's not how the real world works

 

[RangerBob]

I worked as a janitor at a clinic. It was a very rewarding job.

I would keep in mind that you never know when you may need to turn to old connections for help. Maintain good relations and don't take advantage of others.

The person you are now is the person you will be. If you make ethical compromises now, then it's easier to make them again in the future. It's a slippery slope. The ability to make ethical compromises and try to justify them is not a desirable characteristic in a physician. I'm not saying that most of us humans don't have that fatal flaw to some degree, but it does seem pretty clear here what is right.

Do the right thing--let people know that you are only available for 9 weeks.

 

[candbgirl]

Pretty high demands for someone that's willing to drop the job after 2 months. That's not how the real world works

Not only willing to drop the job but actually plans to drop the job after 2 months.

 

[deleted859689]

I worked as a janitor at a clinic. It was a very rewarding job.

I would keep in mind that you never know when you may need to turn to old connections for help. Maintain good relations and don't take advantage of others.

The person you are now is the person you will be. If you make ethical compromises now, then it's easier to make them again in the future. It's a slippery slope. The ability to make ethical compromises and try to justify them is not a desirable characteristic in a physician. I'm not saying that most of us humans don't have that fatal flaw to some degree, but it does seem pretty clear here what is right.

Do the right thing--let people know that you are only available for 9 weeks.

Reason why I didn't apply to lab jobs with my degree was because they ask for 1 year commitment which I could not provide. My dad wanted me to lie cause' "everyone does it and these companies make so much money that it doesn't matter and they even expect/know that someone could leave before a year." While I agree with the statement, I don't like lying and could not compromise my integrity just to get a higher paying job for a few months.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I will be moving back home over the summer for 9 weeks, and was wondering how feasible a temp job is. I don't want a minimum wage job, but a job that uses my degree and pays at least $3k monthly. I was considering working as a clinical coordinator for a hospital department, national park biologist or park ranger, or even working for the state department. My questions is are any of these jobs feasible for working only 9 weeks at (I definitely wont' be telling my employer I'll only be working 9 weeks)

Pretty sure you should just be chillin and having fun for the last time in a long time!

 

[little_giant]

Pretty sure you should just be chillin and having fun for the last time in a long time!

Thats harder than it sounds!!

 

[Magyarzorag]

Reason why I didn't apply to lab jobs with my degree was because they ask for 1 year commitment which I could not provide. My dad wanted me to lie cause' "everyone does it and these companies make so much money that it doesn't matter and they even expect/know that someone could leave before a year." While I agree with the statement, I don't like lying and could not compromise my integrity just to get a higher paying job for a few months.

Thats what my parents are also telling me to do. I was maybe thinking of feigning incompetence, not showing up to work, showing up late, trying to get fired

 

[Jeremy Bearimy]

I was maybe thinking of feigning incompetence, not showing up to work, showing up late, trying to get fired

That would be both not actually accomplishing the goal of using your degree and also monumental waste of everyone's time. Rather than trying to find ethically murky ways out of a permanent position, just look for a seasonal job like other people here have suggested. Don't worry, you're about to use your degree for the rest of your life. If you really need to work in the summer before M1, do it without creating a headache for everyone involved and just look for temporary work as a barista, tutor, lifeguard, bartender, uber driver, waiter, cashier, tour guide, etc. etc. etc.

 

[Magyarzorag]

That would be both not actually accomplishing the goal of using your degree and also monumental waste of everyone's time. Rather than trying to find ethically murky ways out of a permanent position, just look for a seasonal job like other people here have suggested. Don't worry, you're about to use your degree for the rest of your life. If you really need to work in the summer before M1, do it without creating a headache for everyone involved and just look for temporary work as a barista, tutor, lifeguard, bartender, uber driver, waiter, cashier, tour guide, etc. etc. etc.

I did apply for a concierge for Silver car. Pay is OK at about $15/hr and I get to drive Audis all day! Also wanted to work on a cruise ship, but I heard they hire only internationals unless I want $2/hr.

 

[candbgirl]

I did apply for a concierge for Silver car. Pay is OK at about $15/hr and I get to drive Audis all day! Also wanted to work on a cruise ship, but I heard they hire only internationals unless I want $2/hr.

Not true about cruise ships. (Have you been on a cruise recently? Have you not seen lots of Americans working on the ships?) But the contracts are longer than 9 weeks and you probably wouldn’t be using your degree and you most likely wouldn’t like the work.

 

[deleted804295]

Reason why I didn't apply to lab jobs with my degree was because they ask for 1 year commitment which I could not provide. My dad wanted me to lie cause' "everyone does it and these companies make so much money that it doesn't matter and they even expect/know that someone could leave before a year." While I agree with the statement, I don't like lying and could not compromise my integrity just to get a higher paying job for a few months.

Really? Lab jobs pay well?

$10 an hour here as students and $15 after graduation. You get paid more working at walmart nowadays

 

[Cornfed101]

Warehouse jobs are good too. I worked at Costco and they have great pay and benefits even if you are part-time!

 

[deleted804295]

I think I'm done playing devil's advocate. Anyways, OP, I think you largely underestimate the amount of paperwork required for career jobs.

I have been talking to my current supervisor since August of last year for my current job and I didn't start until last month. For me it made sense because I'm working here for 9 months and I'll be helping out the organization into medical school and residency since it's in the healthcare field and what I want to be doing when I begin practicing medicine.

If you began paperwork now you would've wasted about 6 months of your supervisors time by the time you quit. You would also be burning serious bridges and if it's the clinical coordinator job you can best bet it will reach physicians in the medical community come time to you starting residency applications.

Is this effort towards getting an extra $10 an hour worth it? Are the consequences worth it? Is being unethical worth it?

If not, find a seasonal job or a job you're passionate about and willing to continue into medical school and beyond.

 

[82Scout]

I'm pretty torn over this topic. Although, I think outwardly lying is bad.... I'm also a firm believer in having your own best interest in mind. You don't owe any company any type of loyalty (excluding some type of signed contract). OP If I was you I would look into getting the best paying job possible that you could work for as long as possible.

I personally completed training for a job and then left my first week because I was offered a position that paid $6 more an hour with better benefits. It wouldn't make sense to give up improved income and benefits over the false notion that I owed this company a year I "promised". It's strictly business and most employers wouldn't think twice when it came to their budget or fit (I've been laid off before). In industries like tech its common to shop around and swap jobs every couple of months to a year. As stated above just know you are burning bridges when you do these types of things.

 

[KnightDoc]

I'm pretty torn over this topic. Although, I think outwardly lying is bad.... I'm also a firm believer in having your own best interest in mind. You don't owe any company any type of loyalty (excluding some type of signed contract). OP If I was you I would look into getting the best paying job possible that you could work for as long as possible.

I personally completed training for a job and then left my first week because I was offered a position that paid $6 more an hour with better benefits. It wouldn't make sense to give up improved income and benefits over the false notion that I owed this company a year I "promised". It's strictly business and most employers wouldn't think twice when it came to their budget or fit (I've been laid off before). In industries like tech its common to shop around and swap jobs every couple of months to a year. As stated above just know you are burning bridges when you do these types of things.

I totally agree with your thoughts on acting in your own best interest and not outright lying. The analogy to your situation would be whether you would have entered and completed training KNOWING that you already had the other offer and was going to leave after your first week for an extra $6/hour. I'll bet the answer is "no," because you're not advocating lying, so you are probably pretty ethical.

Of course, unanticipated opportunities arise (off topic -- but this is why LOIs carry little to no weight 🙂), and anyone acting rationally would act in their own best interest. As you point out, companies do this all the time. The corporate analogy would be enticing you to leave another job with the promise of an extra $6/hour, knowing at the outset that they were going to lay you off in 9 weeks. I have heard of lots of sleazy corporate conduct, but never heard of a company doing that!!!

Bottom line, it really looks like OP knows this is very wrong and is just trolling for supportive responses. I wonder if anyone anonymously encouraging OP (and I'm not saying you are, because of the qualifications above) would answer an MMI or CASPer the same way, or would write a medical school application essay on the virtues of maximizing personal income over providing full disclosure to a prospective corporate employer?