SUNY question

[surfsup]

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I heard somewhere some SUNYs don't give in state preference. IS this true or just a bogus rumor? Many thanks

 

[usmaple]

They definitely DO give heavy in-state preference. A quick check of the states shows <10% out-of-state for all 4.

 

[Columbia22]

If you're not from NY, dont bother applying

 

[l.a.liznyc]

At the Upstate interview, the director or dean of admissions (i forgot who was speaking to us) did say that the SUNY's were not supposed to use state residency as a factor. However, I did not hear this statement made at Buffalo or Stony Brook. Although it does seem like those interviewing are mostly NY residents.

 

[ny skindoc]

Outside of Stony Brook the other three SUNY med schools do accept a number of out of state applicants every year.Downstate says so specifically on its web site.If you have good reasons for applying and grades that are at least comparable or higher than their averages its worth a shot.

 

[moeman]

Historically speaking Stony Brook will interview a few out-of-staters, but will rarely ever give an acceptance to them. I always wondered why SBU has done this, while the other SUNYs accept some out of state students? Anyone Know?

 

[MedicationWorks]

They may be bias of residence during pre-interview screening, but they are not bias of residence during post-interview selection.
Everyone is on equal footing if they get an interview. But getting the interview might be harder for an out-of-stater.

 

[Columbia22]

say what medication??? what drugs are you on?? haha, you may want to check the logic of your statement

 

[trubluwolv]

awrighty then.... why are SUNY schools any different from any other state school??

you get public funding from your state to run your school...
bottom line: they show preference for in-staters.
it doens't mean that it's not out-of-state friendly... but clearly they must reserve a certain amount of spaces for in-staters.

even a top 10 school like UMich has to be AT LEAST 50/50 in order to retain their state funding.

 

[MedicationWorks]

SUNY is different because the state is destitute after 9/11. Governor Pataki doesn't have the funds to subsidize in-state tuition. They are dealing with it by accepting people who's tuition would not be subsidized (out of staters). This helps to balance the state budget.

 

[trubluwolv]

point taken. but to what extent?

 

[Castro Viejo]

At least at SUNY Downstate, the trend was to begin accepting more out-of-state applicants. In the past greater than 90% of the incoming class would be New York State residents, but I believe now the school has shrunken it down to exactly 90% in-state and 10% out-of-state. For example, there are quite a number of Californians in the Classes of 2005 and 2006 I think.

Good luck to all.

 

[trubluwolv]

Originally posted by ******
At least at SUNY Downstate, the trend was to begin accepting more out-of-state applicants. In the past greater than 90% of the incoming class would be New York State residents, but I believe now the school has shrunken it down to exactly 90% in-state and 10% out-of-state. For example, there are quite a number of Californians in the Classes of 2005 and 2006 I think.

So if these numbers are accurate and representative of other SUNY schools, i wouldn't exactly identify SUNY schools as "out-of-state friendly"... only if i were comparing SUNYs relative to UCs.

but who knows? statistics are funny--they often lie.

 

[Castro Viejo]

Or most other state schools, I would believe.

Most state med schools seem to take way greater than 90% of their classes from in-state applicants. Before this 10% out-of-state policy, I think the SUNYs all had greater than 95% of their classes from in-state applicants.

 

[MedicationWorks]

The ratio of out-of-state to in-state applicants in the entering class might be low for a reason unrelated to bias. The number of out-of-state applications relative to in-state is also low. --> There is an overwhelming number of in-state applicants. So naturally a large number of the entering class will be from NY.

Personally I am from NY, and I am against this lack-of-in-state preference. Why? I'm afraid people will get their MDs and run home to practice medicine. This might eventually lead to a shortage of physicians in certain areas around NY.(yes this is just speculation😉).

But the director of admissions at Upstate told everyone at the interview "There will be no bias if you are out-of-state." Maybe she meant no bias to those who made it to the interview phase. I'm not sure.

 

[moeman]

Originally posted by Ischemia
The tuition that a medical student pays is relatively nominal to the cost of educating a medical student. Moreover, the cost difference between tuition for a NY resident and someone from out of state is only about 12k. Even if the 4 SUNYs were to accept many more out of state people, this would hardly help to balance the budget. The tuition that medical students pay is worthless in comparison to the state budget.

SUNY is no different at all. Most state schools show in-state preference. It's our tax money, etc. This is how it should be.

I was thinking the same thing😕

 

[MedicationWorks]

Originally posted by Ischemia
Upstate is a weird school. The director did say the same thing at my interview day, also.

Hey Ischemia, are you going there, or get accepted? I am on the HPA list.

 

[Help]

Originally posted by surfsup
I heard somewhere some SUNYs don't give in state preference. IS this true or just a bogus rumor? Many thanks

If your family is an alumni of Buffalo they consider that sig, even out of state. That was what I was told at interview

😕

 

[Help]

Originally posted by trubluwolv
So if these numbers are accurate and representative of other SUNY schools, i wouldn't exactly identify SUNY schools as "out-of-state friendly"... only if i were comparing SUNYs relative to UCs.

but who knows? statistics are funny--they often lie.

Apply to Penn State or Vermont they take tons of out of state folks.