SUNY Schools and In-State Residents

[PD187540]

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Is it generally true that in-state residents of New York have a greater chance at getting into SUNY schools?

 

[Tapepsi]

Is it generally true that in-state residents of New York have a greater chance at getting into SUNY schools?

Most definitely. Last year's MSAR stats:

SUNY downstate
IS Applicants: 2212 ; OOS Applicants: 2966
IS Interviews: 748 ; OOS Interviews: 427
IS Matriculants: 155; OOS Matriculants: 35
IS chances for interview: 33.8% ; OOS chances for interview: 14.25%
IS chances for acceptance after interview: 20.7%; OOS chances for acceptance after interview: 8.2%
SUNY upstate
IS Applicants: 1873 ; OOS Applicants: 2647
IS Interviews: 603 ; OOS Interviews: 160
IS Matriculants: 129; OOS Matriculants: 13
IS chances for interview: 32.3% ; OOS chances for interview: 6.04%
IS chances for acceptance after interview: 21.4%; OOS chances for acceptance after interview: 8.12%

Note: The rates for acceptance in reality is much higher as not everyone who gets accepted goes there. Unfortunately MSAR doesn't list total acceptances for IS and OOS. However, you get the point that if you're IS you have a much better chance of getting in.

 

[PD187540]

Most definitely. Last year's MSAR stats:

SUNY downstate
IS Applicants: 2212 ; OOS Applicants: 2966
IS Interviews: 748 ; OOS Interviews: 427
IS Matriculants: 155; OOS Matriculants: 35
IS chances for interview: 33.8% ; OOS chances for interview: 14.25%
IS chances for acceptance after interview: 20.7%; OOS chances for acceptance after interview: 8.2%
SUNY upstate
IS Applicants: 1873 ; OOS Applicants: 2647
IS Interviews: 603 ; OOS Interviews: 160
IS Matriculants: 129; OOS Matriculants: 13
IS chances for interview: 32.3% ; OOS chances for interview: 6.04%
IS chances for acceptance after interview: 21.4%; OOS chances for acceptance after interview: 8.12%

Note: The rates for acceptance in reality is much higher as not everyone who gets accepted goes there. Unfortunately MSAR doesn't list total acceptances for IS and OOS. However, you get the point that if you're IS you have a much better chance of getting in.

OK, that's really good news. I'm only asking because I'm currently in the process of studying for the MCAT, and I just threw everything down while vowing to myself that I won't study for it ever again (which is true). I absolutely can't stand its test mechanics or its rigid standardization, and I refuse to be thrown into a standardized pool of other testees. I've got a 3.97 undergraduate GPA with clinical experience, and for me to get so angry and fed up with this sort of thing is unheard of.

I was planning on taking the test in January '12, but I'm upping it to this September just to see how I do. As a non-traditional student having graduated college in 2006, I'm taking two pre-requisite courses to finish up the course requirements, which will be done by August. I'm unemployed (well, self-employed as a private tutor, but I don't have much business lately), and I'm not willing to risk $15,000 of my life's savings for projected expenses while not working until I get admitted to med school in 2013.

It's true that I can't work full-time anyway until I start medical school because my undergraduate degree is worthless right now (bachelor's degree in Pathologist's Assistant and I'm ineligible to get a license in the field), and I'd be doing volunteer work to fill up my time (which obviously doesn't pay anything). Studying for the MCAT is literally a full-time job in itself, and I'm just not going to do that anymore from this day forward.

So if I do well on September's MCAT, I'll go through with the volunteering and focus on applying to med school for 2013 entry. If I don't do well, then it will have to be P.A. school for a master's. That's basically it. This MCAT is literally draining my life away and making me sociopathic. Instead of focusing on the health of others, MY health is being affected negatively.

 

[FIREitUP]

OK, that's really good news. I'm only asking because I'm currently in the process of studying for the MCAT, and I just threw everything down while vowing to myself that I won't study for it ever again (which is true).

I was planning on taking it in January '12, but I'm upping it to this September just to see how I do. Basically, I'm a non-traditional student, having graduated college in 2006 with a 3.97GPA. I'm taking two pre-requisite courses, which will be finished by August. I'm unemployed (well, self-employed as a private tutor, but I don't have much business lately), and I'm not willing to risk $15,000 of my life's savings for projected expenses while not working until I get admitted to med school in 2013.

It's true that I can't work full-time until I start medical school because my undergraduate degree is worthless right now (bachelor's degree in Pathologist's Assistant), and I'd be doing volunteer work to fill up my time (which obviously doesn't pay anything). Studying for the MCAT is literally a full-time job in itself, and I'm just not going to do that anymore from this day forward.

So if I do well on September's MCAT, I'll go through with the volunteering and focus on applying to med school for 2013 entry. If I don't do well, then it will have to be P.A. school for a master's. That's basically it. This MCAT is literally draining my life away and making me sociopathic. Instead of focusing on the health of others, MY health is being affected negatively.

If you think you're crazy now, wait till you apply.

 

[Tapepsi]

OK, that's really good news. I'm only asking because I'm currently in the process of studying for the MCAT, and I just threw everything down while vowing to myself that I won't study for it ever again (which is true). I absolutely can't stand its test mechanics or its rigid standardization. I was planning on taking the test in January '12, but I'm upping it to this September just to see how I do.

I would strongly advise you to move up your test date to next month or July if you don't plan on studying again. You may have all of the material down now, but 4 months down the road there is a good chance you won't. So either take it sooner than September or keep refreshing yourself with the material, b/c there's too much info to retain.

 

[CardiacIntensivist]

I absolutely can't stand its test mechanics or its rigid standardization, and I refuse to be thrown into a standardized pool of other testees.

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That's basically it. This MCAT is literally draining my life away and making me sociopathic. Instead of focusing on the health of others, MY health is being affected negatively.

You can't be serious. Being in medicine means a life time of standardized exams. EXPENSIVE exams too. Not just the cheapo 100 dollar MCAT exam (or whatever they charge nowadays). I'm talking thousand dollar exams. And that's just the 3 you have to take IN medical school.

Don't be so dramatic about standardize exams. Otherwise, you should look into the profession you seem to want to go into so much.

 

[PD187540]

If you think you're crazy now, wait till you apply.

Hahahah, exactly! Even if I were to get a low MCAT score, I'll still apply regardless and make the defamation of the MCAT the sole topic of my personal AMCAS statement (then discuss other topics on the secondaries). That's going to be my plan of attack if my MCAT score isn't competitive enough.

And God forbid if I get blatant rejections from every single U.S. school I apply to without even being offered an interview! THAT would just mean every single medical school is closed-minded. I'll tell you, though...if that situation happens, I better be committed to an institution because people's lives may be in danger at that point. Just sayin...If medical schools take away my opportunity to facilitate patient treatment and serve others, then I'll have to take something away too. (I quote Newton's 3rd Law here)

 

[Tapepsi]

Well even if you do get a lower MCAT score, your stellar GPA can suffice. I have a 3.95 and got a 27 on my MCAT and have received 1 D.O. acceptance, 1 MD acceptance, 2 MD waitlists (one being high priority waitlist which doesn't move until May 15). So despite all of these people on SDN who say you need at least a 30 to get in, I'm proof you don't.

 

[PD187540]

I would strongly advise you to move up your test date to next month or July if you don't plan on studying again. You may have all of the material down now, but 4 months down the road there is a good chance you won't. So either take it sooner than September or keep refreshing yourself with the material, b/c there's too much info to retain.

Well, the thing is that I DON'T have all the material down cold. I have to review general chem all over again and half of orgo, plus all the verbal I need to practice.

The only reason I'm applying to medical school is because I enjoy being up front and center in facilitating patient treatment and I LOVE pathology. I literally crave that branch of medicine like you have no idea. So I'd naturally want to become a pathologist if I went to med school.

BUT since I love dissecting specimens and performing autopsies, maybe just going to P.A. school for a Master's is enough. Here's another huge point: I took the GRE in 2006 (got a 1320 on it, which is veryy good), and the scores expire in 2012. So if I'm going to apply to P.A. school, it must be done by this fall.

See the pressure here? I basically have everything lined up for P.A. school, and I'm just fed up with the MCAT based on my own personal beliefs about that particular exam (which is totally UNLIKE the exams you take in medical school...I've seen practice USMLEs before, and I actually love those compared to the MCAT).

 

[PD187540]

Well even if you do get a lower MCAT score, your stellar GPA can suffice. I have a 3.95 and got a 27 on my MCAT and have received 1 D.O. acceptance, 1 MD acceptance, 2 MD waitlists (one being high priority waitlist which doesn't move until May 15). So despite all of these people on SDN who say you need at least a 30 to get in, I'm proof you don't.

That is pretty amazing. Congratulations on that! Can I ask you how many (and which) schools you applied to, and then which ones accepted you? (Private message me if you have to.)

 

[Tapepsi]

Well, the thing is that I DON'T have all the material down cold. I have to review general chem all over again and half of orgo, plus all the verbal I need to practice.

The only reason I'm applying to medical school is because I enjoy being up front and center in facilitating patient treatment and I LOVE pathology. I literally crave that branch of medicine like you have no idea. So I'd naturally want to become a pathologist if I went to med school.

BUT since I love dissecting specimens and performing autopsies, maybe just going to P.A. school for a Master's is enough. Here's another huge point: I took the GRE in 2006 (got a 1320 on it, which is veryy good), and the scores expire in 2012. So if I'm going to apply to P.A. school, it must be done by this fall.

See the pressure here? I basically have everything lined up for P.A. school, and I'm just fed up with the MCAT based on my own personal beliefs about that particular exam (which is totally UNLIKE the exams you take in medical school...I've seen practice USMLEs before, and I actually love those compared to the MCAT).

I do see how it can be very difficult deciding. The question you're going to have to as iis if it's really worth it to put yourself through 4 years of medical school just to get to the point where you can be a pathology resident. Especially if you end up changing your mind when you're in med school that you want to go to P.A. school. It's up to you.

And yes a 1320 is impressive. I remember not even knowing what a good score was on the GRE so when my roommate was jumping up and down saying he got a 800 on his quantitative reasoning I asked "Is that good?".

 

[BLKPA2MD]

If I don't do well, then it will have to be P.A. school for a master's.

It's becoming even more difficult to gain acceptance into P.A. school. 2,000+ applicants for 35-40 seat per class. Just letting you know.

 

[Tapepsi]

That is pretty amazing. Congratulations on that! Can I ask you how many (and which) schools you applied to, and then which ones accepted you? (Private message me if you have to.)

Thanks I'm excited to start this upcoming August and I PM'ed you.

 

[PD187540]

It's becoming even more difficult to gain acceptance into P.A. school. 2,000+ applicants for 35-40 seat per class. Just letting you know.

I don't mean Physician Assistant 🙂

 

[patel2]

Well, the thing is that I DON'T have all the material down cold. I have to review general chem all over again and half of orgo, plus all the verbal I need to practice.

The only reason I'm applying to medical school is because I enjoy being up front and center in facilitating patient treatment and I LOVE pathology. I literally crave that branch of medicine like you have no idea. So I'd naturally want to become a pathologist if I went to med school.

BUT since I love dissecting specimens and performing autopsies, maybe just going to P.A. school for a Master's is enough. Here's another huge point: I took the GRE in 2006 (got a 1320 on it, which is veryy good), and the scores expire in 2012. So if I'm going to apply to P.A. school, it must be done by this fall.

See the pressure here? I basically have everything lined up for P.A. school, and I'm just fed up with the MCAT based on my own personal beliefs about that particular exam (which is totally UNLIKE the exams you take in medical school...I've seen practice USMLEs before, and I actually love those compared to the MCAT).

Honestly if you have close to a 4.0, you can break a 30 on the MCAT (unless your undergrad school has rampant grade inflation). Like the above poster mentioned, you probably only need a 27+ (with min 8s) to get an allo acceptance with your GPA, and possibly even lower if you apply to DO also. Just stop being so demoralized by the MCAT, and push it back if you aren't confident. It's a marathon, not a race. Many of us took it twice, three times, and raised our score 5-10+ points.

It's one thing to go to PA school because that's genuinely what you desire as a career. It's another to go simply because you are fed up with one test and because you lack confidence in yourself to destroy the test. Man up! (and I mean that in a positive way... good luck)